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 Post subject: Rugbys Annoying Rebrands
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:28 pm 
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Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:30 pm 
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Mullet 2 wrote:
Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?

Eh, a counter ruck is where the defending team shove the attacking team off the ball at the ruck. A jackal is where a defender gets on the ball.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:31 pm 
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earl the beaver wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?

Eh, a counter ruck is where the defending team shove the attacking team off the ball at the ruck. A jackal is where a defender gets on the ball.



Says who?

What if I call that a wildcard or some other bent name?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:32 pm 
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earl the beaver wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?

Eh, a counter ruck is where the defending team shove the attacking team off the ball at the ruck. A jackal is where a defender gets on the ball.


This!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:34 pm 
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Mullet 2 wrote:
Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?


Counterrucks and Jackals (aka Poach) are different things. Do yourself a favour and watch a game


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:35 pm 
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Mullet 2 wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?

Eh, a counter ruck is where the defending team shove the attacking team off the ball at the ruck. A jackal is where a defender gets on the ball.



Says who?

What if I call that a wildcard or some other bent name?


Then you'd be doing your own thing that everyone ignores.

Earl's spot on, I've never heard anyone in rugby use jackal and counter ruck synonymously.


For an actual re-brand, see Bristol and their Bears bullshit.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:37 pm 
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And you guys don't see a problem with a trigger word that every rugby team in the world also knows?

Pedantic f ucks


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:39 pm 
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Mullet 2 wrote:
Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?


Steady on Kertim


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Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?


Steady on Kertim



That's some seriously weak jackal


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:47 pm 
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And you guys don't see a problem with a trigger word that every rugby team in the world also knows?

Pedantic f ucks


Does the trigger matter or even really exist? A jackal or a counter ruck are either on or they're not and players make a judgement call on the spot, in the latter case someone might start screaming 'It's on' to direct other team mates to the possibility of a successful counter ruck opportunity. You can't surreptitiously try and steal the ball or get your gents through the ruck sufficiently to effectively counter without what you're attempting being obvious, so there's no real alerting going on with standard terminology; the oppo are going to notice if you're doing either.


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Mullet 2 wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?


Steady on Kertim



That's some seriously weak jackal


Image


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:47 pm 
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Isn't "Ruck Action Leader" a Lonny Doneghan song?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:49 pm 
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And when did we start calling defence "D" like yank cúnts

Or substitutes "Finishers"


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:51 pm 
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Mullet 2 wrote:
And when did we start calling defence "D" like yank cúnts


About 2011 I think

A Markedly Refreshed Mullet 2 wrote:
Or substitutes "Finishers"


Last year


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Assist.


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"Lads fir f uck sake can we get the fúck out of here"

is now

"Exit strategy"


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Mullet 2 wrote:
And when did we start calling defence "D" like yank cúnts

Or substitutes "Finishers"


Harlequins call them 'Game changers' :nod: :yawn: :uhoh:


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Jesus


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:10 pm 
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theonly rebrand that actually ever worked, was Natal >>> Sharks
so much so in fact, that it used in business seminars as a good example of focused branding and appropriate support.
Kind of a shame then that although the branding worked, Kings park is fab, Sharkettes, and merchanising are all good, we've won precisely FCUK ALL in 2 decades


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South African's as being non-racists.


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etherman wrote:
South African's as being non-racists.

Apostrophes as being free roaming :x :x :x


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happyhooker wrote:
etherman wrote:
South African's as being non-racists.

Ap'ostrophe's' as bein'g fr'ee roam'ing :x :x :x

Wha?


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Exit strategy


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etherman wrote:
happyhooker wrote:
etherman wrote:
South African's as being non-racists.

Ap'ostrophe's' as bein'g fr'ee roam'ing :x :x :x

Wha?

Cun


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:43 pm 
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For an actual re-brand, see Bristol and their Bears bullshit.


Or Gloucester and their Lion that isn't that dissimilar to Leicester's tiger.


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Or all of the cnutting Welsh Rugby regions :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x


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Mullet 2 wrote:
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This sort of stuff is wank, imo.

I'm all for code words if they're specific to the task at hand. I've seen an Aussie coaching book that has three defenders inside / on the ball / outside as: hustle, ball, jam. If the inside is to 'hustle' the ball outward to the next player, setting him up to be taken by the 'ball' defender (whilst holding his channel in case of an inside ball), and the outer man comes level, or 'jams' the next channel, forcing that player to NOT pass, trapping him in a nice 'wall' of three defenders ... makes perfect sense to me.

What does the 'rock' 'action' and 'leader' tell you?

I saw Graham Henry at a clinic once and he said they use four terms for the defenders outside of a ruck. It all seemed like too much to think about (esp. for amateurs) when you really just need to get a line, stay connnected, and come up together.

People shouting "linespeed" drives me nuts, too. Often they mean fast as possible or 'get off your lazy arses and come forward', but you don't always want to sprint forward in defence ...


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The breakdown


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Professionalism


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Sidestepping is now stepping, passes out of the tackle are offloads.


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Nieghorn wrote:
sockwithaticket wrote:

For an actual re-brand, see Bristol and their Bears bullshit.


Or Gloucester and their Lion that isn't that dissimilar to Leicester's tiger.


Leinster Lions was toilet.


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Sidestepping is now stepping, passes out of the tackle are offloads.


Some announcers say ‘offload’ even before contact! :frown:


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Switch passes get called reverse passes even if they aren’t passed out the back of the hand.

:x


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pods

three fat lads in a row isn't a pod; it's a buffet queue


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Mullet 2 wrote:
And when did we start calling defence "D" like yank cúnts

Or substitutes "Finishers"


Finishers are Wingers...


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eldanielfire wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Rock Action Leader - - - Pillar A B
Counter Ruck - - - Jackal

Who comes up with this shit?

Eh, a counter ruck is where the defending team shove the attacking team off the ball at the ruck. A jackal is where a defender gets on the ball.


This!

The underlying tenet of the fat bastards position is right. It's bollox


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I first heard ‘jackalling’ about 15 years ago, when George Smith started making it a trademark

‘Latching’ is a fairly new one. As is ‘inter-passing’ (which used be just ‘passing’ before they started wanting forwards to do it).

‘Wallabies at 7th LOL’ is also fairly on trend these days


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shanky wrote:

‘Latching’ is a fairly new one.


Some argue that it’s like a flying wedge, but it might also be a ‘mini maul’.


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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:
sockwithaticket wrote:

For an actual re-brand, see Bristol and their Bears bullshit.


Or Gloucester and their Lion that isn't that dissimilar to Leicester's tiger.


Leinster Lions was toilet.


Making the re-brand to Leinster Rugby an complete success


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Now called Mohammed


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