If anyone given citizenship of an EU country can come to the UK, and we have no control over EU countries granting permanent residence to migrants or refugees.... then guess what... the end result is that the UK would be affected by the policy decisions of each of the other EU countries.derriz wrote:No doubt but most Europeans seem to be capable of distinguishing refugees/asylum seekers (rules set by UN treaties), 3rd country economic immigrants (rules set by individual countries) and the concept of EU citizenship movement rights (rules set by the Maastricht treaty). The brexiters seem to have successfully convinced a large swath that the EU is responsible for all immigrants even though less than 20% of U.K. foreign born residents are there because of the EU. It's possible to want fewer asylum seekers but still be in favor of EU freedom of movement.spookly wrote:Depends on the surveys and when they were done. Of late it appears that anti-immigration views are on the rise.derriz wrote:Except that survey after survey shows that freedom of movement is overwhelmingly viewed as a positive among Europeans. Admittedly the U.K. is an outlier in the eurobarometer surveys in having one of the least positive views towards it but if the brits go into negotiations with the notion that freedom of movement is an unpopular imposition on the European public by EU bureaucrats, they're in for a shock.TranceNRG wrote:
Four phonies more like
Anyone sane can see free movement doesn't work in the current EU shape. It worked when it was a group of countries with similar living standards and didn't have a shambolic migration crisis to deal with but it doesn't work now. Also as explained already there's no free movement of services.
I don't think most people really support all of the ideals of the right wing parties, but those same parties seem to be enjoying a lot of success on the back of being a bit different than the same old political parties, and being the only parties with anti-immigration policies.
How are the million plus refugees working out for Germany so far? Even outside of the terror attacks, it does not appear to be going swimmingly. Do you really think all of those 'refugees' will be going home? (refugees in quotes, as I suspect there are a significant number of migrants mixed in with the genuine refugees and asylum seekers)