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Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:40 pm
by iarmhiman
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote: True or not that bus thing wasn't about a rebate was it ?
There was no mention of a rebate. That was the problem. Pure lies swallowed by an ignorant population.
Ignorant people says a man so obsessed in another country. He posts daily about it for years wishing the British people follow blindly, ignorantly and sheepishly behind a project with no idea where it is going.
Another country that's on our island. How wouldn't I be obsessed.

The project knows exactly where it's going. Going to speed up now once the UK are gone.

We agree there. Onward to the socialist utopia. Good luck with your veto on the tax. :lol:
There are more than just us. Netherlands have their own low tax economy as well.

Socialist utopia? You mean employment rights, 30 days holidays a year, and excellent social welfare. What an awful society.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:41 pm
by iarmhiman
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote: True or not that bus thing wasn't about a rebate was it ?
There was no mention of a rebate. That was the problem. Pure lies swallowed by an ignorant population.
Both sides were telling pure lies. The chancellor and the governor of the bank of England included. I don't know why people hang on this £350m as if that turned people who wanted to stay in into people who wanted to leave. Personally I think the expansion of the EU to include the Eastern European countries was the beginning of the end for the EU.
It was the UK's policy to encourage enlargement so as to weaken it. How that failed.
Has it? As I sit in Slovakia.

Not as popular as you might think and Brexit and Italy aside Poland is the one to watch.
Next time you're there you'll be showing a visa to immigration.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:42 pm
by tazman77

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:43 pm
by Blind Hookah
iarmhiman wrote:
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote: There was no mention of a rebate. That was the problem. Pure lies swallowed by an ignorant population.
Ignorant people says a man so obsessed in another country. He posts daily about it for years wishing the British people follow blindly, ignorantly and sheepishly behind a project with no idea where it is going.
Another country that's on our island. How wouldn't I be obsessed.

The project knows exactly where it's going. Going to speed up now once the UK are gone.

We agree there. Onward to the socialist utopia. Good luck with your veto on the tax. :lol:
There are more than just us. Netherlands have their own low tax economy as well.

Socialist utopia? You mean employment rights, 30 days holidays a year, and excellent social welfare. What an awful society.

Try telling that to the youths on the Med or spreading the welfare gravy uniformly in your socialist utopia to the eastern regions. YOu havn't thought this through. All this while your tax carrot is gone, and the dutches.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:44 pm
by SamShark
I don't know why people hang on this £350m as if that turned people who wanted to stay in into people who wanted to leave
There's also the small matter of:

Brexit will be easy - lie
We hold all the cards - lie
We can have the same benefits as membership of the EU - lie
We'll have more control - lie
Loads of Turks are coming - lie
We can be greener/better on animal rights - lie
Better funded public services - lie
Less immigration - likely to be a lie

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:44 pm
by Blind Hookah
iarmhiman wrote:
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
There was no mention of a rebate. That was the problem. Pure lies swallowed by an ignorant population.
Both sides were telling pure lies. The chancellor and the governor of the bank of England included. I don't know why people hang on this £350m as if that turned people who wanted to stay in into people who wanted to leave. Personally I think the expansion of the EU to include the Eastern European countries was the beginning of the end for the EU.
It was the UK's policy to encourage enlargement so as to weaken it. How that failed.
Has it? As I sit in Slovakia.

Not as popular as you might think and Brexit and Italy aside Poland is the one to watch.
Next time you're there you'll be showing a visa to immigration.
You are losing this. I assure you, I won't.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:44 pm
by iarmhiman
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Blind Hookah wrote:
Ignorant people says a man so obsessed in another country. He posts daily about it for years wishing the British people follow blindly, ignorantly and sheepishly behind a project with no idea where it is going.
Another country that's on our island. How wouldn't I be obsessed.

The project knows exactly where it's going. Going to speed up now once the UK are gone.

We agree there. Onward to the socialist utopia. Good luck with your veto on the tax. :lol:
There are more than just us. Netherlands have their own low tax economy as well.

Socialist utopia? You mean employment rights, 30 days holidays a year, and excellent social welfare. What an awful society.

Try telling that to the youths on the Med or spreading the welfare gravy uniformly in your socialist utopia to the eastern regions. YOu havn't thought this through. All this while your tax carrot is gone, and the dutches.
Hopefully we won't be seeing them once the UK leaves. Cornwall it will be.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:46 pm
by iarmhiman
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Blind Hookah wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote: Both sides were telling pure lies. The chancellor and the governor of the bank of England included. I don't know why people hang on this £350m as if that turned people who wanted to stay in into people who wanted to leave. Personally I think the expansion of the EU to include the Eastern European countries was the beginning of the end for the EU.
It was the UK's policy to encourage enlargement so as to weaken it. How that failed.
Has it? As I sit in Slovakia.

Not as popular as you might think and Brexit and Italy aside Poland is the one to watch.
Next time you're there you'll be showing a visa to immigration.
You are losing this. I assure you, I won't.
All depends on your immigration policy towards them I suppose. It will most likely be reciprocal

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:47 pm
by Anonymous 1
iarmhiman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Funnily enough they were the country that paid the most of the UK's rebate. So that 350 million on the bus minus the amount Italy and other EU countries were giving back to the UK.
True or not that bus thing wasn't about a rebate was it ?
There was no mention of a rebate. That was the problem. Pure lies swallowed by an ignorant population.
Both sides were telling pure lies. The chancellor and the governor of the bank of England included. I don't know why people hang on this £350m as if that turned people who wanted to stay in into people who wanted to leave. Personally I think the expansion of the EU to include the Eastern European countries was the beginning of the end for the EU.
It was the UK's policy to encourage enlargement so as to weaken it. How that failed.
Yep Poland doing rather well out of all the money they get from the EU. Northern Europeans are working longer and they will reap the benefit
Polish cut in retirement age comes into force, bucking European trend

Poland’s population of 38 million is among the most rapidly ageing in the European Union.

“The government is throwing away the most effective tool to increase the labour market participation rate,” Benecki said.

The state pension agency ZUS has estimated that 331,000 people could decide to take advantage of the option to retire earlier, which would amount to 2.0 percent of Poland’s 16.3 million workers.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-polan ... KKCN1C60ZD
The rapid wage inflation in Poland will encourage a lot of people to head home

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:49 pm
by Blind Hookah
SamShark wrote:
I don't know why people hang on this £350m as if that turned people who wanted to stay in into people who wanted to leave
There's also the small matter of:

Brexit will be easy - lie - Two years to untangle the mess is fairly easy, should have been much easier with a more bullish government,
We hold all the cards - lie - We did and we do. We should use them.
We can have the same benefits as membership of the EU - lie - No we will have better
We'll have more control - lie - We will
Loads of Turks types are coming - lie -They are, daily
We can be greener/better on animal rights - lie - Whatever
Better funded public services - lie -We will have a richer economy, I not so sure if it is wise to have a bigger state because of it
Less immigration - likely to be a lie - We will have the control on that

In Bold

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:49 pm
by Hellraiser
iarmhiman wrote:Also Italy will probably have a new government next year. Italy wants to leave the Euro, not the EU. If anything Italy for a very long time wanted closer EU integration.

Italy neither wants to leave the EU or the EU. They just like to complain and pretend their domestic problems are someone else's fault. The difference to the Brits is that nobody in Italy is stupid enough that they actually believe that.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:51 pm
by SamShark
Blind Hookah wrote:
SamShark wrote:
I don't know why people hang on this £350m as if that turned people who wanted to stay in into people who wanted to leave
There's also the small matter of:

Brexit will be easy - lie - two years to untangle the mess is fairly easy, should have been much easier with a more bullish government,
We hold all the cards - lie - We did and we do. We should use them.
We can have the same benefits as membership of the EU - lie - No we will have better
We'll have more control - lie - We will
Loads of Turks types are coming - lie -They are, daily
We can be greener/better on animal rights - lie - Whatever
Better funded public services - lie -We will have a richer economy, I not so sure if it is wish to have a bigger state because of it
Less immigration - likely to be a lie - We will have the control on that

In Bold
David?

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:54 pm
by Anonymous 1
SamShark wrote:
I don't know why people hang on this £350m as if that turned people who wanted to stay in into people who wanted to leave
There's also the small matter of:

Brexit will be easy - lie
We hold all the cards - lie
We can have the same benefits as membership of the EU - lie
We'll have more control - lie
Loads of Turks are coming - lie
We can be greener/better on animal rights - lie
Better funded public services - lie
Less immigration - likely to be a lie
So people who held no office and would not hold office as a result of a leave vote talked shit


And this from a man who held office and would still be in office if the country voted to leave

EU referendum: Osborne warns of Brexit budget cuts

George Osborne says he will have to slash public spending and increase taxes in an emergency Budget to tackle a £30bn "black hole" if the UK votes to leave the European Union.

The chancellor said this could include raising income and inheritance taxes and cutting the NHS budget.

But 65 Tory MPs have said his position would be "untenable" if he tries to cut NHS, police and school spending.

And Vote Leave criticised Remain's "hysterical prophecies of doom".

The UK votes on whether to remain in the EU or to leave on 23 June.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36534192

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:56 pm
by Anonymous 1
POLITICIANS ARE LIARS

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:58 pm
by Blind Hookah

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:58 pm
by Bowens
Anonymous. wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:There was no mention of a rebate. That was the problem. Pure lies swallowed by an ignorant population.
Both sides were telling pure lies. The chancellor and the governor of the bank of England included. I don't know why people hang on this £350m as if that turned people who wanted to stay in into people who wanted to leave. Personally I think the expansion of the EU to include the Eastern European countries was the beginning of the end for the EU.
It was the UK's policy to encourage enlargement so as to weaken it. How that failed.
Yep Poland doing rather well out of all the money they get from the EU. Northern Europeans are working longer and they will reap the benefit
Polish cut in retirement age comes into force, bucking European trend

Poland’s population of 38 million is among the most rapidly ageing in the European Union.

“The government is throwing away the most effective tool to increase the labour market participation rate,” Benecki said.

The state pension agency ZUS has estimated that 331,000 people could decide to take advantage of the option to retire earlier, which would amount to 2.0 percent of Poland’s 16.3 million workers.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-polan ... KKCN1C60ZD
The rapid wage inflation in Poland will encourage a lot of people to head home
The Polish economy is roaring. Apparently they have taken in close to a million (!) Ukrainians. Lots of truck drivers, builders etc since a lot of the locals in those fields went elsewhere in the last 10 years.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:01 pm
by Anonymous 1
Bowens wrote:
The Polish economy is roaring. Apparently they have taken in close to a million (!) Ukrainians. Lots of truck drivers, builders etc since a lot of the locals in those fields went elsewhere in the last 10 years.
I know about the Ukrainians. They talk about it in the link I provided

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:02 pm
by Blind Hookah
Anonymous. wrote:
Bowens wrote:
Anonymous. wrote: Yep Poland doing rather well out of all the money they get from the EU. Northern Europeans are working longer and they will reap the benefit
Polish cut in retirement age comes into force, bucking European trend

Poland’s population of 38 million is among the most rapidly ageing in the European Union.

“The government is throwing away the most effective tool to increase the labour market participation rate,” Benecki said.

The state pension agency ZUS has estimated that 331,000 people could decide to take advantage of the option to retire earlier, which would amount to 2.0 percent of Poland’s 16.3 million workers.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-polan ... KKCN1C60ZD
The rapid wage inflation in Poland will encourage a lot of people to head home
The Polish economy is roaring. Apparently they have taken in close to a million (!) Ukrainians. Lots of truck drivers, builders etc since a lot of the locals in those fields went elsewhere in the last 10 years.
I know about the Ukrainians. They talk about it in the link I provided[/quote]
Ukrainians have been going to Poland doings this from quite some time.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:05 pm
by Bowens
Anonymous. wrote:
Bowens wrote:
The Polish economy is roaring. Apparently they have taken in close to a million (!) Ukrainians. Lots of truck drivers, builders etc since a lot of the locals in those fields went elsewhere in the last 10 years.
I know about the Ukrainians. They talk about it in the link I provided
Didn’t read it. :smug:

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:06 pm
by Anonymous 1
Blind Hookah wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
Bowens wrote:
The Polish economy is roaring. Apparently they have taken in close to a million (!) Ukrainians. Lots of truck drivers, builders etc since a lot of the locals in those fields went elsewhere in the last 10 years.
I know about the Ukrainians. They talk about it in the link I provided
Ukrainians have been going to Poland doings this from quite some time.
Yeah but it's happening in greater numbers now (again it's in the link). The lowering of the pension age is a ticking time bomb that much is obvious.
The EU paying for all those Polish infrastructure projects has been great for Ukrainians

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:23 pm
by bimboman
Socialist utopia? You mean employment rights, 30 days holidays a year, and excellent social welfare. What an awful society.
Where's this ?

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:52 pm
by happyhooker
Fûck you fûcking brexiters

I've just had back to back meetings with two small but very innovative and on trend companies. Both of them are in the drinks supply business, one alcohol one soft drinks.

Both of them have quietly raised finance, not through crowdfunding, for massive expansion. They'd both found new premises, they were both on the way to signing for them.

In the last week, both of their investors (who are VC capital fund investors if I understand it correctly) have pulled out citing uncertainty in the UK market. Both the brewer and the soft drinks manufacturer were already under pressure with the weakness of the pound. The soft drinks guy buys most of his fruit from Europe and supply lines are a major worry

Basically, there's two companies who currently employ 30-35 people who were looking to expand and employ at least the same again. Both of them in very bouyant markets

They'd have employed 12 people on top of that for 6 months redoing the new places

All of this (and I realise this is a tiny microscopic bit of the economy) is gone. And talking to a few people in similar situations, it's not unique

You're a bunch of cûnts

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:54 pm
by camroc1
Tessys latest plan leaked to The Times (of London).

Biggest talking points :

- a multiyear, longer than anything stated so far, transition period, and,

- NI in a seperate VAt regime (ie still in the CU and SM).

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Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:01 am
by SamShark
happyhooker wrote:Fûck you fûcking brexiters

I've just had back to back meetings with two small but very innovative and on trend companies. Both of them are in the drinks supply business, one alcohol one soft drinks.

Both of them have quietly raised finance, not through crowdfunding, for massive expansion. They'd both found new premises, they were both on the way to signing for them.

In the last week, both of their investors (who are VC capital fund investors if I understand it correctly) have pulled out citing uncertainty in the UK market. Both the brewer and the soft drinks manufacturer were already under pressure with the weakness of the pound. The soft drinks guy buys most of his fruit from Europe and supply lines are a major worry

Basically, there's two companies who currently employ 30-35 people who were looking to expand and employ at least the same again. Both of them in very bouyant markets

They'd have employed 12 people on top of that for 6 months redoing the new places

All of this (and I realise this is a tiny microscopic bit of the economy) is gone. And talking to a few people in similar situations, it's not unique

You're a bunch of cûnts
More project beer

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:08 am
by happyhooker
Yes, I've had a few and yes, it's the beer market (although only 50%). Sorry, but my irony signal has gone.
It's just a completely unnecessary situation and these cûnts are defending it.

I've now got to find about 40k s worth of work for next year just for me, let alone the subcontractors I was going to use.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:16 am
by SamShark
It's indefensible. When we look back on this in a few years nobody will be able to get their head round what we've done to ourselves.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:42 am
by Zico
SamShark wrote:It's indefensible. When we look back on this in a few years nobody will be able to get their head round what we've done to ourselves.
I really don't know how we got here. I always thought you guys were pretty sensible and we were the ones who constantly had to be on our guard to stop ultra nationalist crazies taking over and fecking everything up.

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:21 am
by sewa
happyhooker wrote:Yes, I've had a few and yes, it's the beer market (although only 50%). Sorry, but my irony signal has gone.
It's just a completely unnecessary situation and these cûnts are defending it.

I've now got to find about 40k s worth of work for next year just for me, let alone the subcontractors I was going to use.
Sorry to hear that. Its a ridiculous situation

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:22 am
by sewa
But technology, cameras etc. I note the three stooges just ignored this

Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:53 am
by Leinsterman
But Toga just posted above that the UK will have a richer economy. Happyhooker must be talking nonsense.