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Nolanator wrote:
Rinkals wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kentucky-cuts-polling-locations-angry-mob-long-lines-georgia-election-day-disaster-confusion-a9577501.html

Mitch McConnel to win by a landslide!
In a typical election year, Kentucky has about 3,700 polling sites, according to most reports. When Election Day arrives on 23 June, there will be just 200 polling sites across the state — with some of those sites having to serve upwards of 600,000 residents.
This is the sort of stuff that causes the UN to step in and supervise in African countries.
It's the primary, not an "election"...considering Biden has already met the threshold to secure the nomination, I'm not even sure why they're going ahead with it anyway. It's over.
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fonzeee wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Rinkals wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kentucky-cuts-polling-locations-angry-mob-long-lines-georgia-election-day-disaster-confusion-a9577501.html

Mitch McConnel to win by a landslide!
In a typical election year, Kentucky has about 3,700 polling sites, according to most reports. When Election Day arrives on 23 June, there will be just 200 polling sites across the state — with some of those sites having to serve upwards of 600,000 residents.
This is the sort of stuff that causes the UN to step in and supervise in African countries.
It's the primary, not an "election"...considering Biden has already met the threshold to secure the nomination, I'm not even sure why they're going ahead with it anyway. It's over.
Because Primaries are about more than just the Presidency. There's probably a couple dozen races in state, local, city, county etc offices down the ballot to be decided as well. My ballot for the California primary was 4 or 5 pages long.
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slick wrote:What happens if a President decides to retire early? Is a new election or does someone within the party take over for the remaining time? Joe doesn’t look to me like a guy that can last 4 years but could he win the election, stabilise things then step aside?
As Saint said this would basically just be a resignation a la Nixon. VP takes over. We don't really have a concept of snap elections.

While what you describe could technically be done, I think it would backfire from a PR standpoint.
Fonzee is it well underatood over that the presidential race is really between Trump and Biden's VP?
More or less. Bit of cognitive dissonance as it's Biden's merits that people seem to be weighing against Trump's, but at the same time everyone seems to go "gee, it's going to be real important to see who he picks...", or for those not so enthusiastic about Joe, "ah well, he probably won't even serve the full term anyway"

Nice to see you back by the way Santa.
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DOB wrote:Because Primaries are about more than just the Presidency. There's probably a couple dozen races in state, local, city, county etc offices down the ballot to be decided as well. My ballot for the California primary was 4 or 5 pages long.
That's interesting. When I did the primary in MO in 2016 I only remember doing the presidential nominee. Must have been in and out in 30 seconds.
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The sample ballots are here

http://web.sos.ky.gov/electionballots/
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fonzeee wrote:
DOB wrote:Because Primaries are about more than just the Presidency. There's probably a couple dozen races in state, local, city, county etc offices down the ballot to be decided as well. My ballot for the California primary was 4 or 5 pages long.
That's interesting. When I did the primary in MO in 2016 I only remember doing the presidential nominee. Must have been in and out in 30 seconds.
A lot of people do vote like that, and I have in the past ignored down-ballot races like School Board Chair and City Comptroller (I don't know what that is).
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DOB wrote:
fonzeee wrote:
DOB wrote:Because Primaries are about more than just the Presidency. There's probably a couple dozen races in state, local, city, county etc offices down the ballot to be decided as well. My ballot for the California primary was 4 or 5 pages long.
That's interesting. When I did the primary in MO in 2016 I only remember doing the presidential nominee. Must have been in and out in 30 seconds.
A lot of people do vote like that, and I have in the past ignored down-ballot races like School Board Chair and City Comptroller (I don't know what that is).
I meant like there was literally one thing on the ballot. At least as I remembered it.

After spending this afternoon wondering if I had gone crazy, I did some googling and found out that at least in Missouri, there was the presidential primary in March, and then a completely different primary for state and local offices on August 2, apparently. https://ballotpedia.org/Missouri_state_ ... ions,_2016
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DOB wrote:
fonzeee wrote:
DOB wrote:Because Primaries are about more than just the Presidency. There's probably a couple dozen races in state, local, city, county etc offices down the ballot to be decided as well. My ballot for the California primary was 4 or 5 pages long.
That's interesting. When I did the primary in MO in 2016 I only remember doing the presidential nominee. Must have been in and out in 30 seconds.
A lot of people do vote like that, and I have in the past ignored down-ballot races like School Board Chair and City Comptroller (I don't know what that is).
Effectively an independent financial auditor. So a City Comptroller is there to keep an eye on the books and make sure that they're spending money where they say they're spending money.
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Anonymous. wrote:
Mr Mike wrote:
TheFrog wrote:This country is converting faster and faster to what resembles more and more to a new brand of fascim. And while there is still some semblance of democracy, I fear that if Trump is reelected, he will be emboldened to go down that road.

And

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 6820591078

On Monday, he will cut the supply to the US market of skilled labor. I wonder how this will impact universities as a lot of the brilliant PhD brains coming from India or other places where their incomes wouldn't allow them to repay a student loan, may opt not to study in the US any longer as they lose any hope to get a job there.
Quite possible more restrictions will be imposed but I’d wager anything you like that her prediction that they will come “as early as Monday 11 June” is wrong.
Yeah I think they will come before then. That's two bloody years away
That’s what you want from immigration attorneys, forward planning and an attention to detail.
So came on Monday 22 June, that’s twice as bad as the 11th.
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Mr Mike wrote:The sample ballots are here

http://web.sos.ky.gov/electionballots/
Total non sequitur, but I was caught off guard by the Democrats (rooster) and Republicans (log cabin) having different symbols than the national parties. Wonder what the story behind those choices is.
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fonzeee wrote:
Mr Mike wrote:The sample ballots are here

http://web.sos.ky.gov/electionballots/
Total non sequitur, but I was caught off guard by the Democrats (rooster) and Republicans (log cabin) having different symbols than the national parties. Wonder what the story behind those choices is.
The log cabin vibe is very Lincoln, and I assume that they are saying all Democrats are cocks.
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The cock is interesting. Seems they might've wanted to move away from the jack-ass originating during Andrew Jackson's time, but it never quite took off.

https://americanhistory.si.edu/democrac ... -symbols-0
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They are just francophiles at heart.
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Santa wrote:Steele still on it I see. Good commitment. :thumbup:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ele-claims
It's a shame they didn't realise he was a fabulist when he ran the Russia desk at MI6.
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6.Jones wrote:
Santa wrote:Steele still on it I see. Good commitment. :thumbup:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ele-claims
It's a shame they didn't realise he was a fabulist when he ran the Russia desk at MI6.
Amateurs.
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6.Jones wrote:
Santa wrote:Steele still on it I see. Good commitment. :thumbup:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ele-claims
It's a shame they didn't realise he was a fabulist when he ran the Russia desk at MI6.
Indeed.

They should have given Dominic Raab the job. Now there's a man with an amazing breadth of knowledge.
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I see Trump is roaring falsehoods (no surprise there) about postal voting on Twitter.

If he loses, no way in Hell he accepts the decision.
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The Man Without Fear wrote:I see Trump is roaring falsehoods (no surprise there) about postal voting on Twitter.

If he loses, no way in Hell he accepts the decision.
The office leaves the man, not the other way round.
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fonzeee wrote:
Santa wrote:
fonzeee wrote:
slick wrote:What happens if a President decides to retire early? Is a new election or does someone within the party take over for the remaining time? Joe doesn’t look to me like a guy that can last 4 years but could he win the election, stabilise things then step aside?
As Saint said this would basically just be a resignation a la Nixon. VP takes over. We don't really have a concept of snap elections.

While what you describe could technically be done, I think it would backfire from a PR standpoint.
Fonzee is it well underatood over that the presidential race is really between Trump and Biden's VP?
More or less. Bit of cognitive dissonance as it's Biden's merits that people seem to be weighing against Trump's, but at the same time everyone seems to go "gee, it's going to be real important to see who he picks...", or for those not so enthusiastic about Joe, "ah well, he probably won't even serve the full term anyway"

Nice to see you back by the way Santa.
Well it's a complicated decision.

And how do people see the decision in general. What do they think they're voting for?

I get voting against Trump, but is that balanced off against understand what that will actually be voting for?

Actually now that I think about it I reckon most voting in the next election will be against more than for something. A for Trump is a vote against CHOP and all the associated chaos, violence, purges, yes socialism. A vote for Biden is a vote against Trump but not necessarily for anything more specific than that. What do you think?

That's fairly broad because some constituencies will definitely be voting for a preferred future (e.g. more CHOP).

Either way I think authoritarianism will increase whoever the next President is. The question is what it supports: liberal western values or something else.
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I'm not sure what's more pathetic.

Seneca flouncing before the upcoming American election, or Santa still valiantly pretending that his guru has made America 'Great Again'.

At least Seneca was smart enough to leave this forum in shame, having spent 8 years passionately backing a dud in Donald Trump. Santa just clearly still loves the attention. Heap it on him fellas, he just wants to be contrarian and be disliked by you. He's never played Rugby or commented on a Rugby thread on this forum. I'm also guessing he's never stepped foot in the USA. That's typical of most pro-Trump trolls on this forum.''
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Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
This forum has had many one-topic trolls. They last as long as their chosen 'issue' lasts or until the forum tires of them. Nook trolled on behalf of Rugby League until we all grew bored of him. Gort became an anti-Muslim troll until Al Qaeda died down. Seneca trolled for Trump for a few years until we mocked his 'birther' conspiracy and he flounced in shame. And Santa is still trying his best and will troll until Trump loses office. That's how one-topic trolls operate.
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Seneca won the thread.
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AnkleTap wrote:Seneca flounced in shame.
Fixed.
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Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
It was awe inspiring !

He really dominated that glass.
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Big win. The biggest
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Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
They crowd cheered a grown man's ability to drink a glass of water with one hand :?

The bar for the POTUS has now been lowered to being able to drink more competently than Ted Striker
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Ali's Choice wrote:
AnkleTap wrote:Seneca flounced in shame.
Fixed.
That was some lo level bait to see if you really had me on ignore :lol:
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Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know it's petty and about on par with how Miliband ate a sandwich, but even the way Trump puckers up his lips before he raises the glass is weird. Everything about him is so strange and lacking grace or coordination.

The fact that he hates such silly personal stuff just makes it funnier.
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BokJock wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
They crowd cheered a grown man's ability to drink a glass of water with one hand :?

The bar for the POTUS has now been lowered to being able to drink more competently than Ted Striker
:lol: :lol: :lol:

He truly is the Zucker/Abrahams prez. But Lloyd Bridges would have performed the role with some warmth...
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Sure they had the whole thing about how to eat pizza last time around, didn't they? Someone was pictured eating it with a knife and fork, and a chat show had Bernie or someone on who demonstrated that they could eat pizza by hand.

All a bit of fun, sure, but national politics are influenced by such weird things globally. I wouldn't care if a politician needed to use a sippy cup, if they were demonstrably good at their job.
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Nolanator wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know it's petty and about on par with how Miliband ate a sandwich, but even the way Trump puckers up his lips before he raises the glass is weird. Everything about him is so strange and lacking grace or coordination.

The fact that he hates such silly personal stuff just makes it funnier.
Given the utter abomination of his mocking of a disabled reporter, I can't see how he can legitimately complain about any criticism related to his manner or appearance.

I'm still shocked that didn't spell the end of his candidacy, so would see some ironic justice if he were to lose support due to his physical inabilities and godawful physical grooming (not that physical grooming and disabilities go together, just that they're irrelevant to the question of his suitability for office but he's notably touchy about it)

On that point, I really wish there could be an independent candidate who would campaign solely on the state of Trump's barnet.
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Short Man Syndrome wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
They crowd cheered a grown man's ability to drink a glass of water with one hand :?

The bar for the POTUS has now been lowered to being able to drink more competently than Ted Striker
:lol: :lol: :lol:

He truly is the Zucker/Abrahams prez. But Lloyd Bridges would have performed the role with some warmth...
:lol:
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inactionman wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know it's petty and about on par with how Miliband ate a sandwich, but even the way Trump puckers up his lips before he raises the glass is weird. Everything about him is so strange and lacking grace or coordination.

The fact that he hates such silly personal stuff just makes it funnier.
Given the utter abomination of his mocking of a disabled reporter, I can't see how he can legitimately complain about any criticism related to his manner or appearance.

I'm still shocked that didn't spell the end of his candidacy, so would see some ironic justice if he were to lose support due to his physical inabilities and godawful physical grooming (not that physical grooming and disabilities go together, just that they're irrelevant to the question of his suitability for office but he's notably touchy about it)

On that point, I really wish there could be an independent candidate who would campaign solely on the state of Trump's barnet.
there are still "people" on here who defend him to the hilt on that one. what you saw him do with his own eyes is not what he actually did.

Did you see Kayleigh defending his use of the term "Kung Flu" (to an Asian reporter asking the question):
"What the president does do is point to the fact that the origin of the virus is China. It's a fair thing to point out as China tries to ridiculously rewrite history, ridiculously blame the coronavirus on American soldiers — this is what China is trying to do. And what President Trump is saying, 'No, China, I will label this virus for its place of origin.' ... He is linking it to its place of origin. ...
It's not a discussion about Asian Americans, who the president values and prizes as citizens of this great country. It's an indictment of China for letting this virus get here."
She then tried to blame the media for him saying it :?
https://www.axios.com/mcenany-trump-cor ... 46c83.html
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Short Man Syndrome wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
They crowd cheered a grown man's ability to drink a glass of water with one hand :?

The bar for the POTUS has now been lowered to being able to drink more competently than Ted Striker
:lol: :lol: :lol:

He truly is the Zucker/Abrahams prez. But Lloyd Bridges would have performed the role with some warmth...
We may have Leslie Nielsen from Scary Movie 3 next.
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BokJock wrote:
inactionman wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know it's petty and about on par with how Miliband ate a sandwich, but even the way Trump puckers up his lips before he raises the glass is weird. Everything about him is so strange and lacking grace or coordination.

The fact that he hates such silly personal stuff just makes it funnier.
Given the utter abomination of his mocking of a disabled reporter, I can't see how he can legitimately complain about any criticism related to his manner or appearance.

I'm still shocked that didn't spell the end of his candidacy, so would see some ironic justice if he were to lose support due to his physical inabilities and godawful physical grooming (not that physical grooming and disabilities go together, just that they're irrelevant to the question of his suitability for office but he's notably touchy about it)

On that point, I really wish there could be an independent candidate who would campaign solely on the state of Trump's barnet.
there are still "people" on here who defend him to the hilt on that one. what you saw him do with his own eyes is not what he actually did.

Did you see Kayleigh defending his use of the term "Kung Flu" (to an Asian reporter asking the question):
"What the president does do is point to the fact that the origin of the virus is China. It's a fair thing to point out as China tries to ridiculously rewrite history, ridiculously blame the coronavirus on American soldiers — this is what China is trying to do. And what President Trump is saying, 'No, China, I will label this virus for its place of origin.' ... He is linking it to its place of origin. ...
It's not a discussion about Asian Americans, who the president values and prizes as citizens of this great country. It's an indictment of China for letting this virus get here."
She then tried to blame the media for him saying it :?
https://www.axios.com/mcenany-trump-cor ... 46c83.html

Is renaming the Spanish Flu next on his list?
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Mr Mike wrote:
Short Man Syndrome wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:Just saw the video of Trump proving he could drink a glass of water with one hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
They crowd cheered a grown man's ability to drink a glass of water with one hand :?

The bar for the POTUS has now been lowered to being able to drink more competently than Ted Striker
:lol: :lol: :lol:

He truly is the Zucker/Abrahams prez. But Lloyd Bridges would have performed the role with some warmth...
We may have Leslie Nielsen from Scary Movie 3 next.
If Joe gives us one line as good as, "those men died for their country, send flowers to their bitches and hoes", I'm on board.
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