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I do wonder if the fact that the economy just dropped 32.9% in Q2 has anything to do with these outbursts.
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A victim from Trump's mask-less Tulsa campaign rally?

Herman "999" Cain dead from Covid-19. And I see that everyone's favorite reactionary congressman, Louie "you are a liar" Gohmert has the 'rona too. Although he claims it is the mask wot done it.

As they say Louie, Karma's a bitch.
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earl the beaver wrote:
Waratah wrote:It's more than passing strange the visible decline in Trump's physical & mental condition isn't getting more mainstream press attention. His issues with the ramp & water bottle at the West Point graduation got a bit of coverage for a day or two but that was about it.

Remember in 2016 when HRC had a coughing fit ascribed to pneumonia and a week or so later stumbled while getting into a van? We had headlines like this in the Washington Post: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign; and similar reports all over the MSN for weeks.

Yet here we have a man transparently deteriorating in body and mind. He struggles to balance, rocks back & lurches forward before settling into his strange forward leaning stance, is starting to drag his foot behind him, has involuntary, jerks, spasms & clear motor skills issues. Lately he's been reading words without modulation as if oblivious to their meaning. Any number of credible professionals have pointed out symptoms of frontotemporal decline and hundreds more have warned of his unique basket of pathologies and psychological instability going back to 2017.

And it's getting worse before our eyes, yet there is very little attention given to this. It's quite baffling.
Isn't the forward leaning stance because he wears risers in his shoes the appear taller?
Yeah. Doesn't mean he's not demented as well, but the high heels (and being obese) are also why he can't walk steadily downhill.

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Santa wrote:I haven't read any of your fullas' posts on this - I have a pretty good idea what they will say - but has anyone described it as attempting to delay the election yet? :lol:
If he tried, who would stop him?

who has stopped him from doing all the other illegal shit that he has done?
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Santa wrote:Trump has no power to delay the election you fucktards.
Oh, well, that's alright then.

You are not a clown, you're an entire fucking circus.

Don't bother to reply, I'm already gone
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Hi gang. Hey Chuckles.

Haven't had a chance to read all your posts but I promise I'll go through them all later and give each one the reaponse it deserves. :thumbup:
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Good to see you back, Chuckles. :thumbup:
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Nolanator wrote:Good to see you back, Chuckles. :thumbup:
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puku wrote:A victim from Trump's mask-less Tulsa campaign rally?

Herman "999" Cain dead from Covid-19. And I see that everyone's favorite reactionary congressman, Louie "you are a liar" Gohmert has the 'rona too. Although he claims it is the mask wot done it.

As they say Louie, Karma's a bitch.
Just saw this news about Cain - was he really at the Tulsa rally? If he was I bet we will see a moment of reflection and contrition from Trump as he realises the mistakes he has made and seeks forgiveness for them.

fudge Gohmert, he is a proper cockwomble (not that I want him to die - just to have a bit of an unpleasant time of it for a week or two).
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Poor old Satan, laboring under the misconception that there are posters posting who think Trump has the power to delay the 2020 election. Fücktard indeed.

We all know, well apart from wee Satan, that Trump knows that he is fücked and made his tweet to:

1) distract from the historical 33% contraction in the US economy

2) distract from the fact that Herman Cain, who attended Trump's Tulsa gig and who tested positive for SARS-Cov2 a week later, died today from Covid-19

3) lay the ground work for an excuse if he loses the 2020 election.

The later goes to his thinking on what he thinks his real chances are.
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shanky wrote:Emperor Trump today brought 12,000 troops back from Germany.
Perhaps they’re here to ‘enforce’ the 12th Amendment
Speaking of troops & amendments, you gotta be amused at the behaviour of the dedicated 2A nutters who are all about the need to protect themselves from govt tyranny.

Bunch of overweight, unfit cosplay soldiers who mobilise in force with AR-15s & rocket launchers to bully unarmed public servants when they can't go to the cheesecake factory. But when unidentified federal paramilitaries start hauling citizens into unmarked vans these brave & beardy patriots shit their camo pants from many miles away.
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Santa wrote:Trump has no power to delay the election you fucktards.
We know that. It's Trump who doesn't. But everyone is a fucktard but him?

You really are a cretin.
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Here's a good explainer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

Let's circle back on this later.
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piquant wrote:
4071 wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:that Biden is still making gains and now marginally ahead of orange shitgibbon in Texas while literally sitting in a bunker and saying nothing has got to scare the sh1t out of Trump

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politic ... ils-biden/
It's why he's trying to tempt Joe out.

Trump managed to win in 2016 because people so many people voted against Clinton. As long as Joe stays out of the way, people will not vote against him.

At the stage, Trump can only gain by Biden coming out and being a public figure who can be attacked.

Voted against Clinton and for Trump, or voted against Clinton and for Stein (ignoring for a moment the number of votes for Stein Vs Johnson)? And were either of those problems actually as big as the lower voter turnout period?
The low voter turnout was probably a reflection on what 2 horrible candidates were put forward.
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puku wrote:Poor old Satan, laboring under the misconception that there are posters posting who think Trump has the power to delay the 2020 election. Fücktard indeed.

We all know, well apart from wee Satan, that Trump knows that he is fücked and made his tweet to:

1) distract from the historical 33% contraction in the US economy

2) distract from the fact that Herman Cain, who attended Trump's Tulsa gig and who tested positive for SARS-Cov2 a week later, died today from Covid-19

3) lay the ground work for an excuse if he loses the 2020 election.

The later goes to his thinking on what he thinks his real chances are.

I heard 32.9%, so you may want to curtail your gross exaggeration. The rest all sounds about right
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Biffer29 wrote:There's probably someone who knows a hell of a lot more than me about consitutional law, but I saw something a while back saying that even if the election was delayed, Trump and Pence's terms come to an end regardless and a president is appointed by congress. Anyone know if that's right?
12th Amendment contingency.

It's not a matter of delaying the election, but disputing the result. In the event that no candidate achieves a 270 electoral vote majority, it goes to Congress. Each state receives 1 vote each, regardless of population (the basis for the electoral college). It's possible in this scenario Trump would win, as the GOP control a majority of state legislatures.

If enough GOP-controlled states refused to honour the results in their states, on the basis, say, of suspected electoral fraud, and their electoral college delegates declined to award their votes to the winner, it's possible Biden would not reach 270.

It's very unlikely, but it's possible, and you would be brave to bet against the GOP pulling any possible stunt to engineer this outcome.
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The White House has called the press corps in. Trump has nothing in his schedule for the next hour. Suggestion is he's going to start a press conference as soon as Obama starts speaking at John Lewis' funeral in the hope that cable news channels will cover him instead of the funeral.
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4071 wrote:More people who identified as Democrat voted for Trump than people who identified as Republican voted for Clinton. And surveys of peoples attitudes showed that more people thought that Trump was unsuited to be president than they did Clinton, but more of the people who thought that he was unsuited voted for him anyway. I don't have the figures to hand, but something like 40% of people who thought that Trump was unsuited to be President or didn't have the temperament for the job voted for him anyway. That figure was FAR lower for Clinton - something like 10%.

It seemed that a lot of people held their nose and voted Trump because they didn't want Clinton, or because they didn't think he would win. Now he has a record in politics (and an extraordinary record of failure at that) he no longer has the advantage of being a protest vote or a hail mary vote. He has to run based on his performance, rather than his rhetoric.
This is one of a number of exit polls suggesting that 10-12% of those who voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primaries voted for Trump in the election. On the face of it this would seem to represent extraordinary spite, which isn't so unrealistic if you've experienced the angry fanaticism of a lot of Sanders supporters.

Like similar articles this one presents several caveats. One which isn't canvassed, but to my mind could be a legitimate factor, is the number of GOP voters in open primaries who were always going to vote for Trump but voted for Sanders in the primaries on the basis Trump had a better chance of beating him than Clinton. Even if you split the difference, though, and call it 1 in 20 Sanders primary voters who voted Trump out of spite, it could still have been significant in crucial swing states.

There's so much that applied to 2016 which favoured Trump, but doesn't in 2020, and so much more since... Biden would have to fudge up immensely between now and November to lose this.
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Waratah wrote:
Santa wrote:Trump has no power to delay the election you fucktards.
We know that. It's Trump who doesn't. But everyone is a fucktard but him?

You really are a cretin.
his logic stands up ; anyone who thinks Trump can delay the election is a fcuktard....Trump thinks he can delay the election....
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ticketlessinseattle wrote:
Waratah wrote:
Santa wrote:Trump has no power to delay the election you fucktards.
We know that. It's Trump who doesn't. But everyone is a fucktard but him?

You really are a cretin.
his logic stands up ; anyone who thinks Trump can delay the election is a fcuktard....Trump thinks he can delay the election....
No, you’ve got it all wrong, Trump, like Fox or Santa just ask questions.
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Waratah wrote: This is one of a number of exit polls suggesting that 10-12% of those who voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primaries voted for Trump in the election. On the face of it this would seem to represent extraordinary spite, which isn't so unrealistic if you've experienced the angry fanaticism of a lot of Sanders supporters.
"On the face of it" perhaps.

But something to consider is that in 2008 more people who backed Hillary Clinton in the Primaries voted for McCain in the election than Sanders voters switched to Trump in 2016. An analysis reported in the Washington Post found that up to 25% of Clinton supporters in 2008 voted for McCain (the racist ones, most likely). For Sanders supporters who went for Trump the figures comes in between 6-12%.

It might not be that unusual for swing voters in an election to switch party if their favoured candidate does not get the nomination, and it's stretching it to put it down the angry fanaticism of Sanders supporters (though, yes, many of them can be angry fanatics).
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How the hell do people sit through a full press conference with Trump. He is rambling on and on. I gave up trying to listen to him after a few minutes. He must be really worried about losing this election with all the crap he is spewing out. I think pushing the whole election postponement thing might be a very flawed tactic. Makes him look even weaker. Elections was held during wars, etc before and no previous president ever pushed for postponement, what a "brave wartime" president he is. But hey, his zombie followers will eat all that crap up.
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[*]
AlanBengio wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:
Trump just called for a delay in 2020 presidential elections
The cause? Frauds
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Either He is really totally deranged or decided to go the Chavez route despite claiming otherwise
No, no, no. He is "just asking questions", apparently.
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Waratah wrote:
Biffer29 wrote:There's probably someone who knows a hell of a lot more than me about consitutional law, but I saw something a while back saying that even if the election was delayed, Trump and Pence's terms come to an end regardless and a president is appointed by congress. Anyone know if that's right?
12th Amendment contingency.

It's not a matter of delaying the election, but disputing the result. In the event that no candidate achieves a 270 electoral vote majority, it goes to Congress. Each state receives 1 vote each, regardless of population (the basis for the electoral college). It's possible in this scenario Trump would win, as the GOP control a majority of state legislatures.

If enough GOP-controlled states refused to honour the results in their states, on the basis, say, of suspected electoral fraud, and their electoral college delegates declined to award their votes to the winner, it's possible Biden would not reach 270.

It's very unlikely, but it's possible, and you would be brave to bet against the GOP pulling any possible stunt to engineer this outcome.
They don’t even need to hold elections.

The States can simply appoint delegates as the State majority wishes.

30 republican states + covid emergency = opportunity

All perfectly constitutional, and how they all used to appoint delegates up to the 1840s, before elections became the norm.
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Trump took the horrendous economic news out of the mainstream news by talking about the election date. He says something stupid and controversial to hide bad news every time.
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Masterji wrote:Trump took the horrendous economic news out of the mainstream news by talking about the election date. He says something stupid and controversial to hide bad news every time.
I don't think he's that Machiavellian, I think there's just a decent crossover between 'Trump says something dumb and controversial' and 'Negative story breaks that relates to Trump' cause those two things happen all the f**king time.

I think he says dumb shit cause he's wilfully ignorant, has poor impulse control and wants to be centre of attention all the time.
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And there we have it...

Trump calls for a delay due to Covid, knowing full well the Constitution has no mechanism for such a delay (a material delay that is, past 20th Jan. And if that happens, we're onto Tahs 12th Amendment thing.)

So then he ramps up the rhetoric on mail-in voting.

The next step in this process will be him calling on the States to ‘come up with a solution’ (wink wink) knowing (again, full well) that the blue states will opt for mail-in voting and the red states might be able to be bullied into taking a vote in the statehouse, or going to in-person voting.

How may States does he need to persuade? Not many...Florida, Texas

Conspiracy assured....
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Mail in voting will lead to a rigged election, but making it difficult for voters to get to a polling booth to physically vote won't.

What a truely great example of democracy. And that's before we consider a man called Gerry...
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The number of people losing their shit if he gets re-elected will be astronomical :lol:

All it really takes is Biden making an arse of himself or Biden being physically incapable of becoming President and then the Dems all turning on each other. I don't think either scenario is too far into the realms of impossibility.

I think too many people are thinking him losing is a foregone conclusion. Certainly all the news outlets quoting polls of him losing popularity in southern states etc., don't take into account the black swan effect.
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Alright friends now where were we...
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Jim Lahey wrote:The number of people losing their shit if he gets re-elected will be astronomical :lol:

All it really takes is Biden making an arse of himself or Biden being physically incapable of becoming President and then the Dems all turning on each other. I don't think either scenario is too far into the realms of impossibility.

I think too many people are thinking him losing is a foregone conclusion. Certainly all the news outlets quoting polls of him losing popularity in southern states etc., don't take into account the black swan effect.
I think the opposite. While I don't discount the possibility of Biden shitting his pants during a debate or Trump just outright winning, I think a lot of people are probably overestimating Trump's due the nature of his win 2016. Most other candidates (even incumbents) with his polling numbers would be outright dismissed at this stage.
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Santa wrote:Alright friends now where were we...
You were assuming the position other people had taken and being a sneering dickhead. :thumbup:
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I will be surprised and amused if Trump wins.
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Alright friends now where were we...
snafu

enjoy
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Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Masterji wrote:Trump took the horrendous economic news out of the mainstream news by talking about the election date. He says something stupid and controversial to hide bad news every time.
I don't think he's that Machiavellian, I think there's just a decent crossover between 'Trump says something dumb and controversial' and 'Negative story breaks that relates to Trump' cause those two things happen all the f**king time.

I think he says dumb shit cause he's wilfully ignorant, has poor impulse control and wants to be centre of attention all the time.
I have been saying this for almost 4 years now: in spite of Seneca's claims, Trump is no 4D chess grandmaster.

He may have people sufficiently aware to spot an opening when he stumbles into it, but it should be obvious that he doesn't have the smarts to plan that sort of thing as a tactical maneuver.
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Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:
Alright friends now where were we...
snafu

enjoy
I am. 8)
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:lol:
Love a good everready burn.
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Santa like most trolls just needs the negative attention.
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Sefton wrote:Santa like most trolls just needs the negative attention.
As an arsehole myself I know when people are using the possibility of "trolling" to create some plausible deniability to their odious views. He isn't a troll, he's a piece of shit.
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EverReady wrote:
Santa wrote:Alright friends now where were we...
You also can see 4 moves ahead of everyone. It's a sight to behold! I think I can speak for everyone when I say I had no idea what Trump was up to at all. Like I don't want to make you feel any more special than you are but I think you are the most intelligent person on this bored. That's it. No debate really. I think you might have a post graduate degree of some description. I'm just throwing that out there.
I think that, since the demise of Seneca, Santa sees a vacancy for being the bored's resident chthonic intellectual.

Unfortunately he doesn't have the wit to carry it off.
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