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10 days to go Mick until you depart PR. Any plans between now and then?
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I thought Mick was just trolling at first, but he really is just a cvnt.
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EverReady wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:07 pm Call him a worm now. Finish him
Hey, worms have an important role to play in the ecosystem.
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BokJock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:08 pm I thought Mick was just trolling at first, but he really is just a cvnt.
I think you will find the cvnt is you if you support John Brennan.
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:09 pm
EverReady wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:07 pm Call him a worm now. Finish him
Hey, worms have an important role to play in the ecosystem.
Indeed stop oppressing the vermiform you invertebratist.
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iarmhiman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:08 pm 10 days to go Mick until you depart PR. Any plans between now and then?
I am not leaving unless I so decide.

Unless some sniveling mod nukes me.

If I do decide to leave, I will announce it.

No announcement, it was a mod
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Mick Mannock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:14 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:08 pm 10 days to go Mick until you depart PR. Any plans between now and then?
I am not leaving unless I so decide.

Unless some sniveling mod nukes me.

If I do decide to leave, I will announce it.

No announcement, it was a mod
Well have to start impeachment proceedings this week

then NPR will have to convict you thus removing you from PR
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Mick Mannock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:12 pm
BokJock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:08 pm I thought Mick was just trolling at first, but he really is just a cvnt.
I think you will find the cvnt is you if you support John Brennan.
Brennan is probably referring to the influential supporters, rather than every voter.

Even the Nuremburg trials had a fairly limited scope - they didn't put EVERYONE on trial.

Don't worry - you are an absolute nobody. You're safe. You're just one of the little people who sat on the sidelines making excuses for scum like Trump.
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This is better than anything on the telly tonight.
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We all have different points of views.
Let's respectfully disagree and move on and find a common enemy to channel our ire towards.

Any suggestions?

ISIS or the Westbro Baptists or perhaps Hermes?

It's Hermes for me
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4071 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:15 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:12 pm
BokJock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:08 pm I thought Mick was just trolling at first, but he really is just a cvnt.
I think you will find the cvnt is you if you support John Brennan.
Brennan is probably referring to the influential supporters, rather than every voter.

Even the Nuremburg trials had a fairly limited scope - they didn't put EVERYONE on trial.

Don't worry - you are an absolute nobody. You're safe. You're just one of the little people who sat on the sidelines making excuses for scum like Trump.
I have no illusions that anyone on here has significance beyond those that care about them. Which in your case is limited to you.
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C69, fair enough by me.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:21 pm C69, fair enough by me.
*offers tentative handshake*
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I hate the Democrats and the Republicans, Hilary and Trump are cut from the same cloth.

The only USA politicians I vaguely lile are Bernie and AOC.
For very different reasons btw.
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C69 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:26 pm I hate the Democrats and the Republicans, Hilary and Trump are cut from the same cloth.

The only USA politicians I vaguely lile are Bernie and AOC.
For very different reasons btw.
I like Biden. Common sense politician and will lead from the centre
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RodneyRegis wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:29 pm
Interesting comments.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavl ... ssion=true
This is his video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfiS8Ms ... 1610304541

I do not know his political affiliations, but I am sure he is no Republican. I am also very glad that all the Nazis he was with spared his life, and even avoided saying anything nasty to him, or any of the other black people in his video.

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4071 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:24 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:21 pm C69, fair enough by me.
*offers tentative handshake*
Voltron forms. The Lions tour must be going ahead?
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Just listening to the Audible version of Dark Towers, about Duetsche Bank and its dealings with Trump.

Jaysis I never realised how much of a kunt the man was before becoming POTUS :lol: . It is actually impressive how such a big steaming turd of a human being can end up the US president in the first place, irrespective of how much of a prick he actually was when in office.

The US is f**ked for the next decade as it’ll take a succession of super-woke politicians as president to gain any sort international credibility again, by which time the snowflake generation will have turned the country into a bunch of moody, angry and lazy bastards.

China must be laughing their arses off.
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iarmhiman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:27 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:26 pm I hate the Democrats and the Republicans, Hilary and Trump are cut from the same cloth.

The only USA politicians I vaguely lile are Bernie and AOC.
For very different reasons btw.
I like Biden. Common sense politician and will lead from the centre
C69 loonie left, disappointing.
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Floppykid wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:40 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:27 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:26 pm I hate the Democrats and the Republicans, Hilary and Trump are cut from the same cloth.

The only USA politicians I vaguely lile are Bernie and AOC.
For very different reasons btw.
I like Biden. Common sense politician and will lead from the centre
C69 loonie left, disappointing.
I am a Socialist, tbh Bernie and AOC are in European terms much too right wing for my liking.
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The problem is not inequality in wealth but inequality in representation in govt which means inequality in govt policies.


They soent $600bn in 2008 bailing out banks who were the cause of their own failures but refuse $1.2 tn for people who were affected by govt imposed lockdowns.
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I didn't realize that the "under cover Antifa operatives" had actually built gallows outside the Capitol.
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BokJock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:52 pm I didn't realize that the "under cover Antifa operatives" had actually built gallows outside the Capitol.
Ah, must have been the ones roaming the Capitol Building shouting "Hang Mike Pence".
All makes sense now ;)
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Yer Man wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:00 pm
BokJock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:52 pm I didn't realize that the "under cover Antifa operatives" had actually built gallows outside the Capitol.
Ah, must have been the ones roaming the Capitol Building shouting "Hang Mike Pence".
All makes sense now ;)
Was it the Antifa operative that got herself shot for the cause.
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Poor misunderstood economic castaways.
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/stat ... 3596270592
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Floppykid wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:01 pm
Yer Man wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:00 pm
BokJock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:52 pm I didn't realize that the "under cover Antifa operatives" had actually built gallows outside the Capitol.
Ah, must have been the ones roaming the Capitol Building shouting "Hang Mike Pence".
All makes sense now ;)
Was it the Antifa operative that got herself shot for the cause.
Without a doubt.

The "fact" that her Social media history suggests she was a fanatical Trumpster only goes to prove how deep the conspiracy runs.
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I'm guessing Brennan was talking about people like this:

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(Newly elected Republican congresswoman) Mary Miller spoke at a Save the Republic Rally hosted by conservative group Mums for America.

While discussing the need for her party to appeal to young people, she said: "Hitler was right on one thing. He said, 'Whoever has the youth has the future.'"

The rally took place a day before supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the Capitol.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/republ ... HOXU3XA7Q/
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Mick Mannock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:14 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:08 pm 10 days to go Mick until you depart PR. Any plans between now and then?
I am not leaving unless I so decide.

Unless some sniveling mod nukes me.

If I do decide to leave, I will announce it.

No announcement, it was a mod
And like Trump doesn't put his money where his mouth is. The only false news over the last four months is from the Dumpster and his supporters like Mick. But never mind, reputation effectively ruined on this forum, bad luck Mick, maybe don't believe everything you read in the Alt-right press next time.
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TheFrog wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:53 pm
merry! wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:40 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:38 pm
merry! wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:35 pm
Ali's Choice wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:28 pm A quarter of a million new cases happening in the USA every day :shock:

And Republicans are focused on twitter accounts getting blocked.
and the dems are wasting time on another impeachment dead end.

maybe they should be preparing for office as there's only 10 days to go now. tick tock.. :)


Where’s your money on for the first Biden war?
not sure. the don's done a pretty good job of calming the middle east generally.

maybe a proxy war with muh, russia. probably return to ukraine or syria.
Do you sincerely think the Don has calmed the Middle East? His handling of Iran, his allowing the Turks to get involved deeper?

That place is more f**ked than ever I think and NATO is about to implode.
they're always having a go at each other round there, but israel's peace agreements are a cause for hope in the region.

as far as we're concerned, those never ending wars we were dragged into have all calmed down.

and besides, the don will need the military's attention stateside when he signs the insurrection act (if he hasn't already.. :) ).
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Floppykid wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:02 pm Poor misunderstood economic castaways.
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/stat ... 3596270592
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Photo from above. Loads of videos and photos like this out there. Worth debating still though isn't it
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The sniveling wimp GOP who say through anon sources that they don't go against Trump to avoid upsetting his base are pathetic.
You get elected to high office for a reason.
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BokJock wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:52 pm I didn't realize that the "under cover Antifa operatives" had actually built gallows outside the Capitol.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!
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EverReady wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:12 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:02 pm Poor misunderstood economic castaways.
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/stat ... 3596270592
Image

Photo from above. Loads of videos and photos like this out there. Worth debating still though isn't it
Have politcal ads with Cruz and Hawley speaking over that footage and picture. It's what they deserve.

Well, only if it wasn't so awful for the Cop's family to see.
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EverReady wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:12 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:02 pm Poor misunderstood economic castaways.
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/stat ... 3596270592
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Photo from above. Loads of videos and photos like this out there. Worth debating still though isn't it
Something something, Portland something emails, Hilary, lizard people
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Comes in....tales a look at the thread.....exit left
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4071 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:02 pm On a subject unrelated to Bimbo being wrong about inequality, I have noted a couple of stories popping up and I don't know how much traction they are going to get. Right now it's fringe websites and social media, but it might be good to get out ahead of this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1 ... surrection

https://news.yahoo.com/clarence-thomas- ... 03492.html

The question is being raised about the consequences for Clarence Thomas of his wife being a supporter of the protests, a devoted Trump fan and a spreader of conspiracy theories. The idea of impeachment has been raised.


Clearly the response should be NO!

This is obviously an attempt to try and force a rebalancing of SCOTUS after Trump managed to turn it red. It is unprincipled and nakedly political. It's fair to dislike Thomas as a judge, but no one should be facing consequences for the actions of their spouse.

I don't know if this will take off: It is just Twitter chat and partisan opinion pieces so far. However, in a polarised political world craziness from the fringes has a way of making its way to the mainstream. But this should absolutely be resisted.

That's the fear with this whole riot - that it will be used for political gain; used as a pretext for actions that are not actually warranted. This should not be allowed to happen.
You know, we might not always see eye to eye, but I do have to say you do call it as you see it 4071 :thumbup:

The main issue for me during those summer protests was the number of times that it was the police instigating conflict.

Defending themselves and property when under attack is different. People who were attacking the police and getting hurt during the summer pretty much deserved what they got.

The difference here was stark - the police (mostly) defended their lines - in one case fatally - but they did not attack the crowd. They did not proactively disperse peaceful (if rowdy) protestors with tear gas and baton charges. They did not shoot at people who were just standing around posing no threat (even if it was with 'non lethal' rounds). They didn't actively assault journalists who were covering it. They didn't mete out physical violence on people purely out of revenge/spite rather than necessity. All of that happened in the summer. And that was the objectionable bit.
My very first post comparing the two was trying to get at the very same sort of zealots you're referring to in the above post re: Thomas. There is nothing guiding these people's opinions other than what benefits their team, calling to mind actual Nazi Carl Schmidt's observation that the chief political distinction that motivates action is that between friend and enemy. Not a healthy ethos to have underpinning your democracy/discourse (can those be separated?) to say the least.

Two random thoughts:
- probably safe to say the Secret Service and Capitol Hill cops have higher admissions standards, training, and professionalism than your average metro PD, which is more likely to explain the disparity in response than anything IMO
- we surely won't agree on this, and it likely will come off sounding bad, but I don't mind in many cases proactively dispersing otherwise peaceful protestors in times of crisis. This is not something 1st world folks understand so well, but a lot of violent riots begin as peaceful protests. That's the ugly truth. But no question the other things you mention, especially raw violence in "revenge", is totally inappropriate behavior from law enforcement.
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Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:08 pm I'm guessing Brennan was talking about people like this:

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(Newly elected Republican congresswoman) Mary Miller spoke at a Save the Republic Rally hosted by conservative group Mums for America.

While discussing the need for her party to appeal to young people, she said: "Hitler was right on one thing. He said, 'Whoever has the youth has the future.'"

The rally took place a day before supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the Capitol.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/republ ... HOXU3XA7Q/
So f**king what?

You can't quote Hitler at all? He's 100% right on that count, I mean it's f**king obvious.

Do you refuse to get in Volkswagens too?
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Zakar wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:30 pmSo f**king what?

You can't quote Hitler at all? He's 100% right on that count, I mean it's f**king obvious.

Do you refuse to get in Volkswagens too?
You can. But is it wise? :lol:
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