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piquant wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:59 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:32 pm
piquant wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:31 am
fatcat wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:20 pm
piquant wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:04 pm That they haven't daftly banned something else because they're thick/racist as shit isn't a defence.

If the problem is people stood in too long queues you look at how to speed the time into the voting booth, not harass people for handing out water.

It's wrong they don't want to encourage voters
So they're thick and racist as fudge because people aren't allowed to hand out gifts including food and drink - can you explain why? I doubt you think that poor black people only vote because they get free hand outs, and I doubt you think they aren't able to plan ahead by bringing their own food and drink, so what's the deal?
If the line is too long, and it is, do something about the line being too long. And don't have that something try to be lessen the numbers of people voting.

The solutions should be about getting more people to vote and shortening the lines.

So yes, the people in this instance pushing absurd law changes are thick and/or racist. I say and/or because some of them know full what they're doing, Kemp for instance.
They closed down polling stations in order to make the lines longer. Having fewer black, young and poor people vote is not the solution it is the ultimate aim.
Thus they're racist pieces of shit, and perhaps thick as merde into the bargain. It's really not a defensible act, nor would it be if someone tried to make lines longer for thick white people who want to vote Trump/Duke
It's clearly defensible for the likes of fatcat, Mick, DAC and no doubt Santa. They want you to look at these acts in isolation and not as a consorted effort to disenfranchise people

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piquant wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:31 am
fatcat wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:20 pm
piquant wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:04 pm That they haven't daftly banned something else because they're thick/racist as shit isn't a defence.

If the problem is people stood in too long queues you look at how to speed the time into the voting booth, not harass people for handing out water.

It's wrong they don't want to encourage voters
So they're thick and racist as fudge because people aren't allowed to hand out gifts including food and drink - can you explain why? I doubt you think that poor black people only vote because they get free hand outs, and I doubt you think they aren't able to plan ahead by bringing their own food and drink, so what's the deal?
If the line is too long, and it is, do something about the line being too long. And don't have that something try to be lessen the numbers of people voting.

The solutions should be about getting more people to vote and shortening the lines.

So yes, the people in this instance pushing absurd law changes are thick and/or racist. I say and/or because some of them know full what they're doing, Kemp for instance.
Drop boxes, which were only introduced last year due to the pandemic, are now an official part of the voting process and will be available in all counties.

The new law requires that large precincts with lines more than an hour long take steps like adding voting machines and election personnel for the next election to reduce wait times. It does not change the number of total early voting days, and actually increases the mandatory days of early weekend voting.

So what are you referring to when you imply that no effort is being made to reduce the time it takes to vote?
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fatcat wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:50 pm
piquant wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:31 am
fatcat wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:20 pm
piquant wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:04 pm That they haven't daftly banned something else because they're thick/racist as shit isn't a defence.

If the problem is people stood in too long queues you look at how to speed the time into the voting booth, not harass people for handing out water.

It's wrong they don't want to encourage voters
So they're thick and racist as fudge because people aren't allowed to hand out gifts including food and drink - can you explain why? I doubt you think that poor black people only vote because they get free hand outs, and I doubt you think they aren't able to plan ahead by bringing their own food and drink, so what's the deal?
If the line is too long, and it is, do something about the line being too long. And don't have that something try to be lessen the numbers of people voting.

The solutions should be about getting more people to vote and shortening the lines.

So yes, the people in this instance pushing absurd law changes are thick and/or racist. I say and/or because some of them know full what they're doing, Kemp for instance.
Drop boxes, which were only introduced last year due to the pandemic, are now an official part of the voting process and will be available in all counties.

The new law requires that large precincts with lines more than an hour long take steps like adding voting machines and election personnel for the next election to reduce wait times. It does not change the number of total early voting days, and actually increases the mandatory days of early weekend voting.

So what are you referring to when you imply that no effort is being made to reduce the time it takes to vote?

I didn't imply that, you might have inferred it
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In that case I feel bound to ask - what the f**k are you going on about then?
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As per comments. They should be looking to increase the number of people voting, not look to make it harder.

And the queues are ridiculous, there shouldn't by my reckoning even be a 10 minute wait. They have waiting into the hours and then do something thick and racist on the back of it. That some other things might not be thick and racist doesn't mean the thick racist thing isn't thick and racist, the thick racist thing is merely a thick racist thing
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How are they making it harder?
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The refund 'scandal' :lol:
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fatcat wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:07 pm How are they making it harder?
Ans what is the racist thing too?
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Racists gonna racist
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Here's why voting rights activists say Georgia's new election law targets Black voters

Republicans in Georgia on Thursday passed a far-reaching overhaul of the state's election laws that voting rights groups say will target the Black residents who make up roughly a third of the state's population.

African Americans in Georgia proved crucial to recent Democratic victories, helping the party win the White House and seize the majority in the US Senate. Exit polls show 88% of the Black electorate supported President Joe Biden last November. And in January, Democratic Sens. Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock saw even bigger support, capturing 92% and 93% of the Black vote in their runoff elections, respectively.
Here are several provisions of the new law that voting rights activists argue could harm Black Georgians and other voters of color in the state:

Identification for absentee voting
In last year's general election, a record 1.3 million Georgians -- or more than a quarter of the 2020 electorate -- voted absentee amid the coronavirus pandemic. And a greater share of Black Georgians than White residents cast their ballots remotely.
The new law does away with signature matching to identify voters who cast absentee ballots. Instead, voters requesting an absentee ballot now will have to provide the number of their Georgia's driver's license number or state identification, along with other identifying information such as their date of birth. Those who lack those forms of identification can submit copies of other paperwork, such as a copy of a bank statement or a current utility bill.
Voting rights groups say the new requirements erect too many barriers.
In all, about 200,000 Georgians lack a driver's license or state identification card, state figures show. And a lawsuit challenging the Georgia law filed Thursday night on behalf of three voting rights groups -- The New Georgia Project, Black Voters Matter Fund and Rise, Inc. -- argues that Black voters are less likely than other voters to have the identification now required.

Long lines
During last June's primary, some voters stood for hours in the Georgia heat to cast their ballots, and voting stretched on for hours after polls were supposed to close.
An analysis of data collected by Georgia Public Broadcasting and ProPublica found a significant disparity in who had to wait the longest: The average wait time after the 7 p.m. scheduled poll-closing time was 51 minutes in polling places that were 90% or more non-White. But it was just six minutes in polling places where 90% of the voters were White.
Voting rights advocates say that makes it all the more troubling that Georgia's law now makes it a misdemeanor to approach a voter in line to provide food or water.

Provisional ballots
Previously Georgia voters could cast provisional ballots if they showed up at the wrong precinct, and their votes still would count once the board of elections determined that they had cast their ballots in the right county.
The new law tosses out all out-of-precinct votes cast before 5 p.m.
The lawsuit brought by the voting rights groups argues that Black voters are more likely than White voters to move frequently. As a result, they are more likely to change precincts and show up at the wrong one on Election Day, activists argue.

Bans mobile units
Fulton County, where roughly 45% of the population is African American, bought RV-sized mobile voting units to encourage early voting and reduce long lines on Election Day.
The law now bans their use.

Voting hours and drop boxes
The law now requires officials to house drop boxes for absentee ballots inside early voting locations, which limits their usefulness. The law also specifies that early voting hours must run from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., but it gives county registrars the flexibility to extend hours to 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Voting advocates argue that Black voters are more likely to work multiple jobs than Georgians of other races and limiting their access to drop boxes closes off yet another avenue to the franchise.
Voter challenges
The law says any Georgian can challenge the voting eligibility of an unlimited number of voters. Activists say this will make it to easier for conservative groups to attempt to purge large groups of Black voters or others they think will support Democrats.
The NAACP Legal Defense Fund argues it could lead to "unchecked voter intimidation."
Attempts to challenge voters' eligibility are not new. Ahead of January US Senate runoffs, Texas-based conservative organization True the Vote paired up with the Georgia Republican Party and tried to challenge more than 360,000 Georgia voters that it said may have changed addresses. Most counties declined to take up the matter.
Georgia's law adds a new provision that allows the State Elections Board to sanction counties that refuse to comply with the provision allowing unlimited challenges.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:31 am
fatcat wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:07 pm How are they making it harder?
Ans what is the racist thing too?
Is your google translate broken?
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I cannot find anything racist.

Perhaps one of the boreds great and good could explain the racism.
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Anonymous not good or great enough for you?
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Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:19 am Anonymous not good or great enough for you?
No.

And the prick is on ignore.
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then you will probably remain ignorant.
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If he is the only one who knows, and there are no links, I think the racism argument is probably weak then.
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OK. Found it

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -jim-crow/

Democrats have been tarnishing Georgia’s new voting law, saying it represents a return to Jim Crow. That calumny besmirches an effort that largely succeeds at balancing extensive voter access with strong election integrity.

Jim Crow was a heinous system that systematically denied Black Americans — and many poor Whites — their constitutional right to vote through bogus “literacy tests,” poll taxes and other measures such as “Whites only” Democratic primaries in states where Democrats were sure to win. Backed by racist law enforcement and threats of violence or lynching by the Ku Klux Klan and similar groups, even Black people who were able to vote often chose not to. It took the civil rights revolution, and especially the Voting Rights Act of 1965, to undo this system.

The new Georgia law does nothing to return the state to this terrible time. Black voters will still be able to register without hindrance. And they, like all other Georgians, will be able to vote in many different ways: on Election Day, in-person before Election Day, or by mail without an excuse if they are 65 or older.

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Democrats charge that some of the law’s provisions will have a differential impact on Black voting and thus demonstrate prejudicial intent. These provisions include requirements that voters present a photo ID when voting in person; that those voting by mail provide their driver’s license number or the last four digits of their Social Security number; and that in-person voting on Sundays are now a county option rather than a statewide mandate. None of these provisions should prevent anyone from voting, and many are popular even among Black voters.

Photo identification is a case in point. Democrats have long resisted the requirement on the theory that some voters without driver’s licenses or other state-issued IDs could be disenfranchised. But as progressive elections analyst Ruy Teixeira points out, studies regularly show that photo ID requirements have not reduced turnout. Georgia’s law also permits voters to ask for a free voter-ID card if they don’t have one of the six permitted forms of photo ID. A recent poll conducted for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution also found that 74 percent of Georgians support a photo-ID requirement for voting, including 63 percent of Black respondents. Democrats’ objections are an answer in search of a problem.

The new mail-in ballot measures are also not likely to depress turnout. Black voters already prefer to vote in person, either early or on Election Day. Seventy percent say they voted in-person in the 2020 presidential election according to the AJC poll. Moreover, the law’s new security measure, which replaces the old system of using a person’s signature to verify absentee ballots with a requirement that absentee voters provide a driver’s license or state ID card, will likely decrease the chance that valid ballots are wrongly rejected. That’s a good thing that everyone should cheer.

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No-excuse mail balloting also did not lead to higher voter turnout in 2020. Stanford University researchers examined this question in a recent study and found that turnout increased by roughly the same amount in states that did not allow no-excuse mail voting as in states that did. “Absentee voting doesn’t significantly affect whether people vote or not,” the study’s primary author said. “It mostly changes how they vote. Voter interest is far more important in determining turnout.”

The changes to Sunday early voting will also not likely have any effect. Despite Democratic claims that Georgia’s after-church “souls to the polls” early voting initiatives drove turnout, data from the 2020 presidential election and the Jan. 5 Senate runoffs showed that Sundays were the least popular days to vote in both races. In the runoff, more than 174,000 people voted on each weekday of early voting, but only 31,000 people voted on Sunday, Dec. 20, and only about 20,000 voted the following Sunday. Sundays were also the lightest voting day of the week in the November presidential election as well. Georgia’s new law also mandates an extra Saturday of early voting and allows counties the option of allowing early voting on Sundays. Voting experts say the bill expands early voting access, the opposite of Democratic claims.

Even President Biden’s claim that the law bans voters from receiving water and food while waiting in line is false. The bill prevents electioneering under the guise of offering food and water, but it allows poll workers to provide self-service water to voters close to the polls and allows anyone to offer food and drinks more than 150 feet away from the polling location or more than 25 feet from people in line. It also requires polls where there is a wait of more than an hour to hire enough staff to reduce the waiting time. That will make it easier, not harder, for people to vote.

AD
No bill is perfect, and reasonable people can disagree about the balance between voter access and election integrity. But Democratic claims that this law amounts to racist voter suppression should be seen for what they are: overwrought partisan rhetoric that unnecessarily increases racial and political tensions.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:40 am If he is the only one who knows, and there are no links, I think the racism argument is probably weak then.
We can all see the argument, you are the one who chooses to continue to piss into the wind.
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Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:58 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:40 am If he is the only one who knows, and there are no links, I think the racism argument is probably weak then.
We can all see the argument, you are the one who chooses to continue to piss into the wind.
And you still avoid explaining the racism.

Perhaps there isn't any.
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Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:58 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:40 am If he is the only one who knows, and there are no links, I think the racism argument is probably weak then.
We can all see the argument, you are the one who chooses to continue to piss into the wind.
Mick is still waiting for the evidence of the electoral fraud that stole the election from his alpha male.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:53 am OK. Found it

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -jim-crow/

Democrats have been tarnishing Georgia’s new voting law, saying it represents a return to Jim Crow. That calumny besmirches an effort that largely succeeds at balancing extensive voter access with strong election integrity.

Jim Crow was a heinous system that systematically denied Black Americans — and many poor Whites — their constitutional right to vote through bogus “literacy tests,” poll taxes and other measures such as “Whites only” Democratic primaries in states where Democrats were sure to win. Backed by racist law enforcement and threats of violence or lynching by the Ku Klux Klan and similar groups, even Black people who were able to vote often chose not to. It took the civil rights revolution, and especially the Voting Rights Act of 1965, to undo this system.

The new Georgia law does nothing to return the state to this terrible time. Black voters will still be able to register without hindrance. And they, like all other Georgians, will be able to vote in many different ways: on Election Day, in-person before Election Day, or by mail without an excuse if they are 65 or older.

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Democrats charge that some of the law’s provisions will have a differential impact on Black voting and thus demonstrate prejudicial intent. These provisions include requirements that voters present a photo ID when voting in person; that those voting by mail provide their driver’s license number or the last four digits of their Social Security number; and that in-person voting on Sundays are now a county option rather than a statewide mandate. None of these provisions should prevent anyone from voting, and many are popular even among Black voters.

Photo identification is a case in point. Democrats have long resisted the requirement on the theory that some voters without driver’s licenses or other state-issued IDs could be disenfranchised. But as progressive elections analyst Ruy Teixeira points out, studies regularly show that photo ID requirements have not reduced turnout. Georgia’s law also permits voters to ask for a free voter-ID card if they don’t have one of the six permitted forms of photo ID. A recent poll conducted for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution also found that 74 percent of Georgians support a photo-ID requirement for voting, including 63 percent of Black respondents. Democrats’ objections are an answer in search of a problem.

The new mail-in ballot measures are also not likely to depress turnout. Black voters already prefer to vote in person, either early or on Election Day. Seventy percent say they voted in-person in the 2020 presidential election according to the AJC poll. Moreover, the law’s new security measure, which replaces the old system of using a person’s signature to verify absentee ballots with a requirement that absentee voters provide a driver’s license or state ID card, will likely decrease the chance that valid ballots are wrongly rejected. That’s a good thing that everyone should cheer.

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No-excuse mail balloting also did not lead to higher voter turnout in 2020. Stanford University researchers examined this question in a recent study and found that turnout increased by roughly the same amount in states that did not allow no-excuse mail voting as in states that did. “Absentee voting doesn’t significantly affect whether people vote or not,” the study’s primary author said. “It mostly changes how they vote. Voter interest is far more important in determining turnout.”

The changes to Sunday early voting will also not likely have any effect. Despite Democratic claims that Georgia’s after-church “souls to the polls” early voting initiatives drove turnout, data from the 2020 presidential election and the Jan. 5 Senate runoffs showed that Sundays were the least popular days to vote in both races. In the runoff, more than 174,000 people voted on each weekday of early voting, but only 31,000 people voted on Sunday, Dec. 20, and only about 20,000 voted the following Sunday. Sundays were also the lightest voting day of the week in the November presidential election as well. Georgia’s new law also mandates an extra Saturday of early voting and allows counties the option of allowing early voting on Sundays. Voting experts say the bill expands early voting access, the opposite of Democratic claims.

Even President Biden’s claim that the law bans voters from receiving water and food while waiting in line is false. The bill prevents electioneering under the guise of offering food and water, but it allows poll workers to provide self-service water to voters close to the polls and allows anyone to offer food and drinks more than 150 feet away from the polling location or more than 25 feet from people in line. It also requires polls where there is a wait of more than an hour to hire enough staff to reduce the waiting time. That will make it easier, not harder, for people to vote.

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No bill is perfect, and reasonable people can disagree about the balance between voter access and election integrity. But Democratic claims that this law amounts to racist voter suppression should be seen for what they are: overwrought partisan rhetoric that unnecessarily increases racial and political tensions.
Mick,
Thanks for posting this.
As you help leftists step back and think, do you, on your side, realizing you quoted an evil MSM newspaper, step back and think about everything you said about them?
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I do not think I have described MSM newspapers as evil.

If I have, then I apologise.

I have commented that non-MSM sources are being denied a platform - certainly by YT - and that we are in danger of being fed a diet of approved news.

I am in favour of a wide range of news.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:26 am
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:19 am Anonymous not good or great enough for you?
No.

And the prick is on ignore.
:(
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Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:19 am Anonymous not good or great enough for you?
He didn't explain where the racism is. Why don't you have a bash?
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TheFrog wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:12 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:53 am OK. Found it

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -jim-crow/

Mick,
Thanks for posting this.
As you help leftists step back and think, do you, on your side, realizing you quoted an evil MSM newspaper, step back and think about everything you said about them?
It's like Mike Pence never left us, putting a calm argument that tries to look reasonable on the face of being anti-democratic and racist. They're not looking to solve any actual problem that needs resolving, they are specifically looking to dissuade certain groups from voting.

I don't know if it'll work yet, maybe they can lower the voter turnout, but they have also gifted the Dems an issue to rally around and drive the voter registration initiatives.
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The right wing racists on here will always pretend there is nothing racist going on.
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piquant wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:15 pm
TheFrog wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:12 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:53 am OK. Found it

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -jim-crow/

Mick,
Thanks for posting this.
As you help leftists step back and think, do you, on your side, realizing you quoted an evil MSM newspaper, step back and think about everything you said about them?
It's like Mike Pence never left us, putting a calm argument that tries to look reasonable on the face of being anti-democratic and racist. They're not looking to solve any actual problem that needs resolving, they are specifically looking to dissuade certain groups from voting.

I don't know if it'll work yet, maybe they can lower the voter turnout, but they have also gifted the Dems an issue to rally around and drive the voter registration initiatives.
Where is the racism?
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piquant wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:15 pm
TheFrog wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:12 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:53 am OK. Found it

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -jim-crow/

Mick,
Thanks for posting this.
As you help leftists step back and think, do you, on your side, realizing you quoted an evil MSM newspaper, step back and think about everything you said about them?
It's like Mike Pence never left us, putting a calm argument that tries to look reasonable on the face of being anti-democratic and racist. They're not looking to solve any actual problem that needs resolving, they are specifically looking to dissuade certain groups from voting.

I don't know if it'll work yet, maybe they can lower the voter turnout, but they have also gifted the Dems an issue to rally around and drive the voter registration initiatives.
tbf the Republicans have been doing that for ages and and the results of the presidential and senate run off races prove the Dems are doing a good job with voter registration already. The need to keep it up and they need the federal government to back them up
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:23 pm
piquant wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:15 pm
TheFrog wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:12 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:53 am OK. Found it

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -jim-crow/

Mick,
Thanks for posting this.
As you help leftists step back and think, do you, on your side, realizing you quoted an evil MSM newspaper, step back and think about everything you said about them?
It's like Mike Pence never left us, putting a calm argument that tries to look reasonable on the face of being anti-democratic and racist. They're not looking to solve any actual problem that needs resolving, they are specifically looking to dissuade certain groups from voting.

I don't know if it'll work yet, maybe they can lower the voter turnout, but they have also gifted the Dems an issue to rally around and drive the voter registration initiatives.
tbf the Republicans have been doing that for ages and and the results of the presidential and senate run off races prove the Dems are doing a good job with voter registration already. The need to keep it up and they need the federal government to back them up
The Dems are doing a rubbish job. Lots of people don't want to vote for them who are potential Dem voters, and across the country around a third of voters didn't vote, granted many of those would be independent or GOP voters rather than Dem supporters but still there's clearly much more to be done.

And the Dems are at times similarly anti-democratic to the GOP, which is something that's just morally wrong. Not on the same scale and nowhere near as brazenly, nor in such racist fashion, but they have backed party over democracy no question
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:30 pm The right wing racists on here will always pretend there is nothing racist going on.
Where's the racism?
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piquant wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:51 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:23 pm
piquant wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:15 pm
TheFrog wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:12 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:53 am OK. Found it

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -jim-crow/

Mick,
Thanks for posting this.
As you help leftists step back and think, do you, on your side, realizing you quoted an evil MSM newspaper, step back and think about everything you said about them?
It's like Mike Pence never left us, putting a calm argument that tries to look reasonable on the face of being anti-democratic and racist. They're not looking to solve any actual problem that needs resolving, they are specifically looking to dissuade certain groups from voting.

I don't know if it'll work yet, maybe they can lower the voter turnout, but they have also gifted the Dems an issue to rally around and drive the voter registration initiatives.
tbf the Republicans have been doing that for ages and and the results of the presidential and senate run off races prove the Dems are doing a good job with voter registration already. The need to keep it up and they need the federal government to back them up
The Dems are doing a rubbish job. Lots of people don't want to vote for them who are potential Dem voters, and across the country around a third of voters didn't vote, granted many of those would be independent or GOP voters rather than Dem supporters but still there's clearly much more to be done.

And the Dems are at times similarly anti-democratic to the GOP, which is something that's just morally wrong. Not on the same scale and nowhere near as brazenly, nor in such racist fashion, but they have backed party over democracy no question
im talking Georgia
Black Georgia voters' high turnout helped solidify a historic win, organizers say

Black Georgia voters showed up in droves for the state's pair of US Senate runoffs and voting rights groups say the high turnout plus aggressive organizing efforts helped solidify a historic win.

Rev. Raphael Warnock, the senior pastor of the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, was elected on Tuesday to be the first Black senator from Georgia, CNN projected early Wednesday morning. The control of the US Senate now comes down to Republican David Perdue, who is running to keep his seat against Democrat Jon Ossoff.
Warnock's win is a repudiation of Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler and her adherence to President Donald Trump, who voting rights activists say has attempted to suppress Black voters by accusing majority-Black cities such as Atlanta of fraud in the general election after he lost to Biden.

Black-led voting groups spent the last six weeks knocking on millions of doors, registering voters, distributing mailers, hosting events and partnering with Atlanta hip-hop artists to expand their reach. Their efforts came as Atlanta was thrust into the national spotlight following Biden's victory that flipped Georgia blue after he won the state by more than 11,000 votes. In the days leading up to the Senate runoffs, Black women such as Stacey Abrams and LaTosha Brown once again emerged as the leading voices, appearing on social media, national television and bus tours to urge Black people to vote.
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fatcat wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:05 pm
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:19 am Anonymous not good or great enough for you?
He didn't explain where the racism is. Why don't you have a bash?
I'm not your paid child minder
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No skin off my nose. We both know you can't.
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:41 pm
piquant wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:51 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:23 pm
piquant wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:15 pm
TheFrog wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:12 pm

Mick,
Thanks for posting this.
As you help leftists step back and think, do you, on your side, realizing you quoted an evil MSM newspaper, step back and think about everything you said about them?
It's like Mike Pence never left us, putting a calm argument that tries to look reasonable on the face of being anti-democratic and racist. They're not looking to solve any actual problem that needs resolving, they are specifically looking to dissuade certain groups from voting.

I don't know if it'll work yet, maybe they can lower the voter turnout, but they have also gifted the Dems an issue to rally around and drive the voter registration initiatives.
tbf the Republicans have been doing that for ages and and the results of the presidential and senate run off races prove the Dems are doing a good job with voter registration already. The need to keep it up and they need the federal government to back them up
The Dems are doing a rubbish job. Lots of people don't want to vote for them who are potential Dem voters, and across the country around a third of voters didn't vote, granted many of those would be independent or GOP voters rather than Dem supporters but still there's clearly much more to be done.

And the Dems are at times similarly anti-democratic to the GOP, which is something that's just morally wrong. Not on the same scale and nowhere near as brazenly, nor in such racist fashion, but they have backed party over democracy no question
im talking Georgia
Black Georgia voters' high turnout helped solidify a historic win, organizers say

Black Georgia voters showed up in droves for the state's pair of US Senate runoffs and voting rights groups say the high turnout plus aggressive organizing efforts helped solidify a historic win.

Rev. Raphael Warnock, the senior pastor of the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, was elected on Tuesday to be the first Black senator from Georgia, CNN projected early Wednesday morning. The control of the US Senate now comes down to Republican David Perdue, who is running to keep his seat against Democrat Jon Ossoff.
Warnock's win is a repudiation of Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler and her adherence to President Donald Trump, who voting rights activists say has attempted to suppress Black voters by accusing majority-Black cities such as Atlanta of fraud in the general election after he lost to Biden.

Black-led voting groups spent the last six weeks knocking on millions of doors, registering voters, distributing mailers, hosting events and partnering with Atlanta hip-hop artists to expand their reach. Their efforts came as Atlanta was thrust into the national spotlight following Biden's victory that flipped Georgia blue after he won the state by more than 11,000 votes. In the days leading up to the Senate runoffs, Black women such as Stacey Abrams and LaTosha Brown once again emerged as the leading voices, appearing on social media, national television and bus tours to urge Black people to vote.
Abrams in particular is an impressive figure. Still they've a ways to go before they're close to doing a good job.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:01 pm
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:58 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:40 am If he is the only one who knows, and there are no links, I think the racism argument is probably weak then.
We can all see the argument, you are the one who chooses to continue to piss into the wind.
And you still avoid explaining the racism.

Perhaps there isn't any.
Like when you called me a racist and then were too cowardly to back yourself when repeatedly called on it? And then later claimed you didn't remember doing it?

Anyway, I see you and fatcat are now just ignoring all the info that has already been posted and just repeatedly asking for people to re-explain it. A tactic straight out of trolling 101, chapter 1. No doubt someone will take pity on your and give you another clear explanation to ignore.
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No one has posted any info which is racist and no one has pointed out the racism when asked. Why don't you point out the racism I am ignoring - shouldn't be too difficult eh?
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It is because they know these accusations of racism are bogus.
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Having just pointed out the trolling tactic you are using you immediately expect me to fall for it? :lol:
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