ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

saffer13 · Post by **saffer13** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:06 pm

Now that it's all settled...

zt1903 · Post by **zt1903** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:36 pm

I think Trump will wipe the floor with Clinton, potential landslide victory.

Trump has proven himself adept at making other people's flaws an issue whilst his own don't seem to become an issue. Hillary is a Washington insider and establishment candidate, bought and paid for by Goldman. She is also deeply flawed and widely loathed, there are question marks over her health and her honesty which whether real or not will be exploited by Trump. Lyin' Ted is gone, crooked Hillary Clinton up next.

I would expect Trump to move to a far more sensible place policy wise, he's no longer after the Conservative vote as they have no place else to go now.

saffer13 · Post by **saffer13** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:43 pm

zt1903 wrote:I think Trump will wipe the floor with Clinton, potential landslide victory.

Trump has proven himself adept at making other people's flaws an issue whilst his own don't seem to become an issue. Hillary is a Washington insider and establishment candidate, bought and paid for by Goldman. She is also deeply flawed and widely loathed, there are question marks over her health and her honesty which whether real or not will be exploited by Trump. Lyin' Ted is gone, crooked Hillary Clinton up next.

I would expect Trump to move to a far more sensible place policy wise, he's no longer after the Conservative vote as they have no place else to go now.

And who do you "want" to win....Trump as well?

Flockwitt · Post by **Flockwitt** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:43 pm

zt1903 wrote:I think Trump will wipe the floor with Clinton, potential landslide victory.

Trump has proven himself adept at making other people's flaws an issue whilst his own don't seem to become an issue. Hillary is a Washington insider and establishment candidate, bought and paid for by Goldman. She is also deeply flawed and widely loathed, there are question marks over her health and her honesty which whether real or not will be exploited by Trump. Lyin' Ted is gone, crooked Hillary Clinton up next.

I would expect Trump to move to a far more sensible place policy wise, he's no longer after the Conservative vote as they have no place else to go now.

But... but... that would so hard on Hillary, a horrible way to end a career. President presumptive before Obama reared his ethnically correct head, to go down now to a dick waving demagogue would be just too much

henry · Post by **henry** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:46 pm

It's way too soon to call it and there's no end of twists and turns ahead but, for me, at this stage, I cannot see a Trump win thankfully.

Trump will be trounced by female voters, young well-educated voters, recent immigrants and first-generation Americans and African Americans. Can't see him winning Florida, Virginia, Colorado or Pennsylvania.

Lorthern Nights · Post by **Lorthern Nights** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:51 pm

henry wrote:It's way too soon to call it and there's no end of twists and turns ahead but, for me, at this stage, I cannot see a Trump win thankfully.

Trump will be trounced by female voters, young well-educated voters, recent immigrants and first-generation Americans and African Americans. Can't see him winning Florida, Virginia, Colorado or Pennsylvania.

I reckon he will win Florida, loads of old fuckers down there that have lost their marbles, they will lap him up. Hillary is absolutely loathed.

Average Joe · Post by **Average Joe** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:52 pm

Do we really need another political US thread? How many American posters are there? I say start one thread and make floppy their mod. Darn Americans taking over everthink and spoiling the board for the rest of us.

AND-y · Post by **AND-y** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:52 pm

C'mon Hils!

As ever Bill Hicks musings on US presidential elections are very apt though.

zt1903 · Post by **zt1903** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:56 pm

saffer13 wrote:
zt1903 wrote:I think Trump will wipe the floor with Clinton, potential landslide victory.

Trump has proven himself adept at making other people's flaws an issue whilst his own don't seem to become an issue. Hillary is a Washington insider and establishment candidate, bought and paid for by Goldman. She is also deeply flawed and widely loathed, there are question marks over her health and her honesty which whether real or not will be exploited by Trump. Lyin' Ted is gone, crooked Hillary Clinton up next.

I would expect Trump to move to a far more sensible place policy wise, he's no longer after the Conservative vote as they have no place else to go now.
And who do you "want" to win....Trump as well?

Neither, it's Sophie's choice tbh.

echo · Post by **echo** » Wed May 04, 2016 3:17 pm

I can't say I'm nearly as inspired buy Hillary as I am revolted by Trump .I suspect a lot of voters will see it that way and she'll sail into the white house.

I am interested in why Hillary is viewed with such loathing. She has a reasonable record overall-is pretty moderate and obviously has tremendous ambition. She represents the establishment, is part of the troubling tradition of USA dynastic politics and possibly will be the last mainstream candidate given how the US bipartisan system is quite obviously no longer fit for purpose.

Is it because she's a woomin? I suspect a great deal of it is.

AND-y · Post by **AND-y** » Wed May 04, 2016 4:01 pm

echo wrote:I can't say I'm nearly as inspired buy Hillary as I am revolted by Trump .I suspect a lot of voters will see it that way and she'll sail into the white house.

I am interested in why Hillary is viewed with such loathing. She has a reasonable record overall-is pretty moderate and obviously has tremendous ambition. She represents the establishment, is part of the troubling tradition of USA dynastic politics and possibly will be the last mainstream candidate given how the US bipartisan system is quite obviously no longer fit for purpose.

Is it because she's a woomin? I suspect a great deal of it is.

Nah, misogynists have ruled that there is no such thing as misogyny.

Saint · Post by **Saint** » Wed May 04, 2016 4:04 pm

Average Joe wrote:Do we really need another political US thread? How many American posters are there? I say start one thread and make floppy their mod. Darn Americans taking over everthink and spoiling the board for the rest of us.

Leader of the free world...

You may not get a vote, but the US election probably impacts your country's foreign policy far more than the election of your own President/PM/Chancellor/Emperor/Maharaja etc

Brumbieman · Post by **Brumbieman** » Wed May 04, 2016 4:36 pm

Flockwitt wrote:
zt1903 wrote:I think Trump will wipe the floor with Clinton, potential landslide victory.

Trump has proven himself adept at making other people's flaws an issue whilst his own don't seem to become an issue. Hillary is a Washington insider and establishment candidate, bought and paid for by Goldman. She is also deeply flawed and widely loathed, there are question marks over her health and her honesty which whether real or not will be exploited by Trump. Lyin' Ted is gone, crooked Hillary Clinton up next.

I would expect Trump to move to a far more sensible place policy wise, he's no longer after the Conservative vote as they have no place else to go now.
But... but... that would so hard on Hillary, a horrible way to end a career. President presumptive before Obama reared his ethnically correct head, to go down now to a dick waving demagogue would be just too much

It would be more brutal, and even more enjoyable than a WoodmanCasting film, if she is finally criminally charged by the FBI and locked up.

zt1903 · Post by **zt1903** » Wed May 04, 2016 4:38 pm

echo wrote:I can't say I'm nearly as inspired buy Hillary as I am revolted by Trump .I suspect a lot of voters will see it that way and she'll sail into the white house.

I am interested in why Hillary is viewed with such loathing. She has a reasonable record overall-is pretty moderate and obviously has tremendous ambition. She represents the establishment, is part of the troubling tradition of USA dynastic politics and possibly will be the last mainstream candidate given how the US bipartisan system is quite obviously no longer fit for purpose.

Is it because she's a woomin? I suspect a great deal of it is.

Just because she's a woman and loathed doesn't mean that she's loathed because she's a woman.

echo · Post by **echo** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:06 pm

zt1903 wrote:
echo wrote:I can't say I'm nearly as inspired buy Hillary as I am revolted by Trump .I suspect a lot of voters will see it that way and she'll sail into the white house.

I am interested in why Hillary is viewed with such loathing. She has a reasonable record overall-is pretty moderate and obviously has tremendous ambition. She represents the establishment, is part of the troubling tradition of USA dynastic politics and possibly will be the last mainstream candidate given how the US bipartisan system is quite obviously no longer fit for purpose.

Is it because she's a woomin? I suspect a great deal of it is.
Just because she's a woman and loathed doesn't mean that she's loathed because she's a woman.

Enlighten me then rather throw out trumpish pearls of pointlessness.

henry · Post by **henry** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:14 pm

Lorthern Nights wrote:
henry wrote:It's way too soon to call it and there's no end of twists and turns ahead but, for me, at this stage, I cannot see a Trump win thankfully.

Trump will be trounced by female voters, young well-educated voters, recent immigrants and first-generation Americans and African Americans. Can't see him winning Florida, Virginia, Colorado or Pennsylvania.
I reckon he will win Florida, loads of old fuckers down there that have lost their marbles, they will lap him up. Hillary is absolutely loathed.

Don't see it myself. Romney couldn't win Florida.

henry · Post by **henry** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:20 pm

Seneca of the Night wrote:
henry wrote:It's way too soon to call it and there's no end of twists and turns ahead but, for me, at this stage, I cannot see a Trump win thankfully.

Trump will be trounced by female voters, young well-educated voters, recent immigrants and first-generation Americans and African Americans. Can't see him winning Florida, Virginia, Colorado or Pennsylvania.
He'll win Florida, Pennsylvania, and New York. Game over.

We'll see.

saffer13 · Post by **saffer13** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:20 pm

Seneca of the Night wrote:This is just bullshit. Can the OP change the images. Clear electoral bias. See this is what dear old Trumpy has to deal with from the corrupt MS media on planet rugby.

Don't worry Seneca - between these two lunatics I'd vote for Trumpy. The picture is just to keeps the libs happy.

globus · Post by **globus** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:26 pm

Hilary is the Ace. Cannot see her being Trumped.

echo · Post by **echo** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:30 pm

Seneca of the Night wrote:
echo wrote:I can't say I'm nearly as inspired buy Hillary as I am revolted by Trump .I suspect a lot of voters will see it that way and she'll sail into the white house.

I am interested in why Hillary is viewed with such loathing. She has a reasonable record overall-is pretty moderate and obviously has tremendous ambition. She represents the establishment, is part of the troubling tradition of USA dynastic politics and possibly will be the last mainstream candidate given how the US bipartisan system is quite obviously no longer fit for purpose.

Is it because she's a woomin? I suspect a great deal of it is.
There is no question that I am as sexist as I am racist, but she is the most evil and deranged candidate for the White House since the legendary Colonel Johnson in the 1830s, who spent most of his vice-presidential reign tending a tavern in Kentucky (respect).

She is pure darkness.

Sen ...I realise that she is more of a Republican in Democrat clothing rather than the other way round, but thats hardly a reason to say she is "pure darkness".

Blackrock Bullet · Post by **Blackrock Bullet** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:35 pm

Turbogoat · Post by **Turbogoat** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:55 pm

Seneca of the Night wrote:Listen, there is 30 years of horror stories of this odious wretch oozing her way across American and the world - further if you go back to Arkansas. She is a truly ghastly human being.

Consider how large this great country is: it has the human capital to produce Steve Jobs, Marylin Monroe, Elvis, Helen Keller. Edison, Dylan, Emmy Lou Harris, Jackson, Emily Dickinson, Steve fcking McQueen, and Taylor FCKING SWIFT. Make no question, it is capable of producing a truly evil psychotic crazy woman in political form. Like a one in 200,000,000 freak occurrence.

And here she is.

Trump is an angel compared to this succubus.

If she really was a succubus, Bill would never have had that cigar.

echo · Post by **echo** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:59 pm

Seneca of the Night wrote:Listen, there is 30 years of horror stories of this odious wretch oozing her way across American and the world - further if you go back to Arkansas. She is a truly ghastly human being.

Consider how large this great country is: it has the human capital to produce Steve Jobs, Marylin Monroe, Elvis, Helen Keller. Edison, Dylan, Emmy Lou Harris, Jackson, Emily Dickinson, Steve fcking McQueen, and Taylor FCKING SWIFT. Make no question, it is capable of producing a truly evil psychotic crazy woman in political form. Like a one in 200,000,000 freak occurrence.

And here she is.

Trump is an angel compared to this succubus.

So because she's a woman then.

Winger_ · Post by **Winger_** » Wed May 04, 2016 6:16 pm

Seneca of the Night wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:Listen, there is 30 years of horror stories of this odious wretch oozing her way across American and the world - further if you go back to Arkansas. She is a truly ghastly human being.

Consider how large this great country is: it has the human capital to produce Steve Jobs, Marylin Monroe, Elvis, Helen Keller. Edison, Dylan, Emmy Lou Harris, Jackson, Emily Dickinson, Steve fcking McQueen, and Taylor FCKING SWIFT. Make no question, it is capable of producing a truly evil psychotic crazy woman in political form. Like a one in 200,000,000 freak occurrence.

And here she is.

Trump is an angel compared to this succubus.
If she really was a succubus, Bill would never have had that cigar.
I think it's pretty well known she is a carpet muncher - not that there is anything wrong with that.

And that their 'arrangement' has been a thing of convenience for a very long time indeed.

I have no doubt that they get along pretty well, but one of the reasons she was able to throw that off was that they don't have a conventional marital situation.

Just kind of demonstrates how ruthless both of them are.

Obsessed with Hillary.

There's no way Trump can win. Too many demographics voting against him.

Plato'sCave · Post by **Plato'sCave** » Wed May 04, 2016 6:31 pm

echo wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
echo wrote:I can't say I'm nearly as inspired buy Hillary as I am revolted by Trump .I suspect a lot of voters will see it that way and she'll sail into the white house.

I am interested in why Hillary is viewed with such loathing. She has a reasonable record overall-is pretty moderate and obviously has tremendous ambition. She represents the establishment, is part of the troubling tradition of USA dynastic politics and possibly will be the last mainstream candidate given how the US bipartisan system is quite obviously no longer fit for purpose.

Is it because she's a woomin? I suspect a great deal of it is.
Just because she's a woman and loathed doesn't mean that she's loathed because she's a woman.
Enlighten me then rather throw out trumpish pearls of pointlessness.

Pointing out an incorrect superset is not pointless.

Croft · Post by **Croft** » Wed May 04, 2016 6:46 pm

Trump will spend the next few months grabbing some of the black vote. Romney lost with 59 percent of the white and 6 percent of the black vote. He got 26 percent of the Asian and 27 percent of the Hispanic.

I expect Trump will get more of the white and a lot more of the black vote than Romney, but drop massively on the Hispanic. But anyway the latest polls have Trump and Hillary neck and neck.

DragsterDriver · Post by **DragsterDriver** » Wed May 04, 2016 7:03 pm

When he was told he wasn't welcome in the uk- i wonder if that's f**ked the speshul relationship

ScarfaceClaw · Post by **ScarfaceClaw** » Wed May 04, 2016 7:38 pm

Spoiler: show

Stupid fecking large image.

zt1903 · Post by **zt1903** » Wed May 04, 2016 9:09 pm

Seneca of the Night wrote:

What a stupid meme.

How can Russia retake Constantinople when they've never held it.

Gwenno · Post by **Gwenno** » Wed May 04, 2016 9:23 pm

Re Hillary yodling down the valley, the Democrats are going for a double first - first Woman president, first lesbian? (Not first gay - wasn't one of the Roosevelts a back door man?)

zt1903 · Post by **zt1903** » Wed May 04, 2016 9:27 pm

Gwenno wrote:Re Hillary yodling down the valley, the Democrats are going for a double first - first Woman president, first lesbian? (Not first gay - wasn't one of the Roosevelts a back door man?)

James Buchanan was a "lifelong bachelor".

Zakar · Post by **Zakar** » Wed May 04, 2016 11:09 pm

I for one, think both candidates are paving the way for my favoured candidate, future President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. He's a porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion, a great man and a great american. He will serve up a can of whoop ass if you cross him.

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Wed May 04, 2016 11:15 pm

henry wrote:It's way too soon to call it and there's no end of twists and turns ahead but, for me, at this stage, I cannot see a Trump win thankfully.

Trump will be trounced by female voters, young well-educated voters, recent immigrants and first-generation Americans and African Americans. Can't see him winning Florida, Virginia, Colorado or Pennsylvania.

Hillary has a big 'in' with the Irish Americans through the GFA as well.

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Wed May 04, 2016 11:30 pm

Seneca of the Night wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
henry wrote:It's way too soon to call it and there's no end of twists and turns ahead but, for me, at this stage, I cannot see a Trump win thankfully.

Trump will be trounced by female voters, young well-educated voters, recent immigrants and first-generation Americans and African Americans. Can't see him winning Florida, Virginia, Colorado or Pennsylvania.
Hillary has a big 'in' with the Irish Americans through the GFA as well.
Really? Explain.

Both Bill and Hill played a big part in getting the Brits to agree to the GFA.

Hill is also likely to use Bill to fire up the democratic heartlands, including Barrys 'wifi' generation. She'll also have Barry himself manning the phones. Hill will just have to look presidential to win.

saffer13 · Post by **saffer13** » Wed May 04, 2016 11:38 pm

Working on the black vote.

https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/ ... bout-trump

saffer13 · Post by **saffer13** » Wed May 04, 2016 11:58 pm

Seneca of the Night wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Working on the black vote.

https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/ ... bout-trump
Can you c&p that, cos I can't see it.

It's a video...

kiwinoz · Post by **kiwinoz** » Wed May 04, 2016 11:59 pm

echo wrote:I can't say I'm nearly as inspired buy Hillary as I am revolted by Trump .I suspect a lot of voters will see it that way and she'll sail into the white house.

I am interested in why Hillary is viewed with such loathing. She has a reasonable record overall-is pretty moderate and obviously has tremendous ambition. She represents the establishment, is part of the troubling tradition of USA dynastic politics and possibly will be the last mainstream candidate given how the US bipartisan system is quite obviously no longer fit for purpose.

Is it because she's a woomin? I suspect a great deal of it is.

I think you suspect wrong. A lying warmonger, who has no ethics and is totally driven by psychopathic ambition yet is easily bought and paid for. The presidential assumption that has been around for a long time sticks in the craw of many.

Oh and shes not easy on the eye.

Flockwitt · Post by **Flockwitt** » Thu May 05, 2016 12:09 am

Brumbieman wrote:
Flockwitt wrote:
zt1903 wrote:I think Trump will wipe the floor with Clinton, potential landslide victory.

Trump has proven himself adept at making other people's flaws an issue whilst his own don't seem to become an issue. Hillary is a Washington insider and establishment candidate, bought and paid for by Goldman. She is also deeply flawed and widely loathed, there are question marks over her health and her honesty which whether real or not will be exploited by Trump. Lyin' Ted is gone, crooked Hillary Clinton up next.

I would expect Trump to move to a far more sensible place policy wise, he's no longer after the Conservative vote as they have no place else to go now.
But... but... that would so hard on Hillary, a horrible way to end a career. President presumptive before Obama reared his ethnically correct head, to go down now to a dick waving demagogue would be just too much

It would be more brutal, and even more enjoyable than a WoodmanCasting film, if she is finally criminally charged by the FBI and locked up.

#justiceforHillary

Bowens · Post by **Bowens** » Thu May 05, 2016 12:15 am

zt1903 wrote:James Buchanan was a "lifelong bachelor".

So is Lindsey Graham.

Auckman · Post by **Auckman** » Thu May 05, 2016 1:09 am

If Hillary can solve her minor (but potentially serious) blue collar working class male voter problem, she'll destroy Trump.