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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:26 am 
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I'm the one saying my perspective doesn't matter. I don't even think 'reality' matters anymore.

You guys are trying to handwave away just how bad that Biden thing looked. And as I say, it's not just the event on the face of it, it's the one rule for the establishment, another rule for the anti-establishment optics of it.

That's the actual reality with live in: one of relative mass perspective.


Reality. Perspective. It's just another in a long line of distractions. A waste of everyone's time.


One vote per perspective. That's how it works though.


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I'm the one saying my perspective doesn't matter. I don't even think 'reality' matters anymore.

You guys are trying to handwave away just how bad that Biden thing looked. And as I say, it's not just the event on the face of it, it's the one rule for the establishment, another rule for the anti-establishment optics of it.

That's the actual reality with live in: one of relative mass perspective.


Reality. Perspective. It's just another in a long line of distractions. A waste of everyone's time.


One vote per perspective. That's how it works though.


No one is running for office on here. No one is voting on here. Why waste our time with this nonsense?


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Sefton, while you're here I saw something for you the other day:

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penguin wrote:
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I'm the one saying my perspective doesn't matter. I don't even think 'reality' matters anymore.

You guys are trying to handwave away just how bad that Biden thing looked. And as I say, it's not just the event on the face of it, it's the one rule for the establishment, another rule for the anti-establishment optics of it.

That's the actual reality with live in: one of relative mass perspective.


Reality. Perspective. It's just another in a long line of distractions. A waste of everyone's time.


One vote per perspective. That's how it works though.


No one is running for office on here. No one is voting on here. Why waste our time with this nonsense?


I can't speak for you, but for me, I would say a malfunctioning reward system, dopamine addiction, deep seated procrastination, unresolved childhood trauma, undiagnosed ADHD, laziness, sloth, and a few other things I might have left off.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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I'm the one saying my perspective doesn't matter. I don't even think 'reality' matters anymore.

You guys are trying to handwave away just how bad that Biden thing looked. And as I say, it's not just the event on the face of it, it's the one rule for the establishment, another rule for the anti-establishment optics of it.

That's the actual reality with live in: one of relative mass perspective.


Reality. Perspective. It's just another in a long line of distractions. A waste of everyone's time.


One vote per perspective. That's how it works though.


No one is running for office on here. No one is voting on here. Why waste our time with this nonsense?


I can't speak for you, but for me, I would say a malfunctioning reward system, dopamine addiction, deep seated procrastination, unresolved childhood trauma, undiagnosed ADHD, laziness, sloth, and a few other things I might have left off.


Yes, but that doesn't answer his question.

If you know it's nonsense, which your answer suggests that you do, why dump it on us?


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I can't speak for you, but for me, I would say a malfunctioning reward system, dopamine addiction, deep seated procrastination, unresolved childhood trauma, undiagnosed ADHD, laziness, sloth, and a few other things I might have left off.


Good list. I'd be interested to see how many hardcore posters would check a number off there.

The thing I find irritating is that you are capable of being interesting and challenging, something I value, but the 'extreme, dark corners of the internet conspiracy' shtick is just tedious. We have a genuinely fascinating piece of political theatre playing out and you keep pointing off stage and shouting about pixies.


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If anyone wants to grab Tucker's last night show before it gets deleted it's here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QprY-fgG2os

Opening monologue covering the staggering spectacle of the most deranged seriously mentally ill democratic politician I've ever seen, Adam Schiff, and the coverage from the ridiculous MSNBC / CNN talking heads.

Anyone on here backing this bug-eyed fcking mental case needs to sort their shit out.


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penguin wrote:
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I can't speak for you, but for me, I would say a malfunctioning reward system, dopamine addiction, deep seated procrastination, unresolved childhood trauma, undiagnosed ADHD, laziness, sloth, and a few other things I might have left off.


Good list. I'd be interested to see how many hardcore posters would check a number off there.

The thing I find irritating is that you are capable of being interesting and challenging, something I value, but the 'extreme, dark corners of the internet conspiracy' shtick is just tedious. We have a genuinely fascinating piece of political theatre playing out and you keep pointing off stage and shouting about pixies.


It's not the 'extreme dark corner of the internet' ffs. I support politicians who are mostly in office. That's the problem with you guys, you continue to think you're holding the mainstream position even as the politicians and political parties supported fade into oblivion.


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I can't speak for you, but for me, I would say a malfunctioning reward system, dopamine addiction, deep seated procrastination, unresolved childhood trauma, undiagnosed ADHD, laziness, sloth, and a few other things I might have left off.


Good list. I'd be interested to see how many hardcore posters would check a number off there.

The thing I find irritating is that you are capable of being interesting and challenging, something I value, but the 'extreme, dark corners of the internet conspiracy' shtick is just tedious. We have a genuinely fascinating piece of political theatre playing out and you keep pointing off stage and shouting about pixies.


It's not the 'extreme dark corner of the internet' ffs. I support politicians who are mostly in office. That's the problem with you guys, you continue to think you're holding the mainstream position even as the politicians and political parties supported fade into oblivion.


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penguin wrote:
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penguin wrote:
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I can't speak for you, but for me, I would say a malfunctioning reward system, dopamine addiction, deep seated procrastination, unresolved childhood trauma, undiagnosed ADHD, laziness, sloth, and a few other things I might have left off.


Good list. I'd be interested to see how many hardcore posters would check a number off there.

The thing I find irritating is that you are capable of being interesting and challenging, something I value, but the 'extreme, dark corners of the internet conspiracy' shtick is just tedious. We have a genuinely fascinating piece of political theatre playing out and you keep pointing off stage and shouting about pixies.


It's not the 'extreme dark corner of the internet' ffs. I support politicians who are mostly in office. That's the problem with you guys, you continue to think you're holding the mainstream position even as the politicians and political parties supported fade into oblivion.


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As a frequent denizen of the darker corners of the interweb make no mistake: this stuff has been written by someone else. I can practically identify the websites he's been surfing late at night over a glass of red.


FFS. That's not what you implied. You should apologise. That's a shitty piece of posting.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
penguin wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
penguin wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
I can't speak for you, but for me, I would say a malfunctioning reward system, dopamine addiction, deep seated procrastination, unresolved childhood trauma, undiagnosed ADHD, laziness, sloth, and a few other things I might have left off.


Good list. I'd be interested to see how many hardcore posters would check a number off there.

The thing I find irritating is that you are capable of being interesting and challenging, something I value, but the 'extreme, dark corners of the internet conspiracy' shtick is just tedious. We have a genuinely fascinating piece of political theatre playing out and you keep pointing off stage and shouting about pixies.


It's not the 'extreme dark corner of the internet' ffs. I support politicians who are mostly in office. That's the problem with you guys, you continue to think you're holding the mainstream position even as the politicians and political parties supported fade into oblivion.


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As a frequent denizen of the darker corners of the interweb make no mistake: this stuff has been written by someone else. I can practically identify the websites he's been surfing late at night over a glass of red.


FFS. That's not what you implied. You should apologise. That's a shitty piece of posting.


Thanks, I'll pass.


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Thanks, I'll pass.


Noted. I'm deeply unimpressed.


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Thanks, I'll pass.


Noted. I'm deeply unimpressed.


How will I live with myself? This has certainly given me pause.


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Thanks, I'll pass.


Noted. I'm deeply unimpressed.


How will I live with myself? This has certainly given me pause.


Well, you know what you've done you naughty boy. There's not much point admonishing Rinkals for his infractions of logic and etiquette, but you know better.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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Thanks, I'll pass.


Noted. I'm deeply unimpressed.


How will I live with myself? This has certainly given me pause.


Well, you know what you've done you naughty boy. There's not much point admonishing Rinkals for his infractions of logic and etiquette, but you know better.


Sorry to have distracted you from your mission to repeat that Adam Schiff is mentally ill several times a day. (My mistake, I see you've already got in 1 of your 5 a day there - clearly you're right on track).


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You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco. Celebrity psychologist Dr Drew, who lives in Burbank, is thinking of running against him he's so shocked to see a certifiable lunatic roaming around causing this kind of damage.


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You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco.


You repeat this ad nauseam...and your evidence is? In fact, what am I doing...another f*cking wormhole of bullsh*t. Crack on. Enjoy yourself.


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You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco.


You repeat this ad nauseam...and your evidence is? In fact, what am I doing...another f*cking wormhole of bullsh*t. Crack on. Enjoy yourself.


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You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco. Celebrity psychologist Dr Drew, who lives in Burbank, is thinking of running against him he's so shocked to see a certifiable lunatic roaming around causing this kind of damage.

And yet, you regard Trump as comparatively sane, despite the evidence to the contrary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dangerous_Case_of_Donald_Trump

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According to Jeannie Suk Gersen in The New Yorker, "A strange consensus does appear to be forming around Trump's mental state," including Democrats and Republicans who doubt Trump's fitness for office.[2]

In a blog post republished on Salon in September 2017, journalist Bill Moyers wrote that "[t]here will not be a book published this fall more urgent, important, or controversial than The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump". In an interview with Robert Jay Lifton, Moyers said that Trump "makes increasingly bizarre statements that are contradicted by irrefutable evidence to the contrary." Lifton said, "He doesn't have clear contact with reality, though I'm not sure it qualifies as a bona fide delusion." As an example, Lifton said, when Trump claimed that former president Barack Obama was born in Kenya, "he was manipulating that lie as well as undoubtedly believing it in part."[4]

Carlos Lozada in The Washington Post wrote that many politicians and commentators referred to Trump as "crazy" or doubted his mental health. In this book, mental health professionals examine that claim. They conclude that "anyone as mentally unstable as Mr. Trump simply should not be entrusted with the life-and-death powers of the presidency." Lozada wrote that these conclusions are "compelling," but presidents with mental illness, like depression, can be effective, and presidents without mental illness can still be dangerous.[5]


It does seem as through there is a lot less of a consensus as to Schiff's mental health than there is concerning the President.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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Seneca of the Night wrote:
You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco.


You repeat this ad nauseam...and your evidence is? In fact, what am I doing...another f*cking wormhole of bullsh*t. Crack on. Enjoy yourself.


This is how I roll:

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Indeed, in an era of blogs, crazy conspiracy theories and questionable sources, actually holding views which are supported by real evidence seems unnecessary to you.


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penguin wrote:
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I can't speak for you, but for me, I would say a malfunctioning reward system, dopamine addiction, deep seated procrastination, unresolved childhood trauma, undiagnosed ADHD, laziness, sloth, and a few other things I might have left off.


Good list. I'd be interested to see how many hardcore posters would check a number off there.

The thing I find irritating is that you are capable of being interesting and challenging, something I value, but the 'extreme, dark corners of the internet conspiracy' shtick is just tedious. We have a genuinely fascinating piece of political theatre playing out and you keep pointing off stage and shouting about pixies.


It's not the 'extreme dark corner of the internet' ffs. I support politicians who are mostly in office. That's the problem with you guys, you continue to think you're holding the mainstream position even as the politicians and political parties supported fade into oblivion.


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As a frequent denizen of the darker corners of the interweb make no mistake: this stuff has been written by someone else. I can practically identify the websites he's been surfing late at night over a glass of red.



So the dark web is what drives people to become completely loco, right?


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La soule wrote:
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penguin wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
I can't speak for you, but for me, I would say a malfunctioning reward system, dopamine addiction, deep seated procrastination, unresolved childhood trauma, undiagnosed ADHD, laziness, sloth, and a few other things I might have left off.


Good list. I'd be interested to see how many hardcore posters would check a number off there.

The thing I find irritating is that you are capable of being interesting and challenging, something I value, but the 'extreme, dark corners of the internet conspiracy' shtick is just tedious. We have a genuinely fascinating piece of political theatre playing out and you keep pointing off stage and shouting about pixies.


It's not the 'extreme dark corner of the internet' ffs. I support politicians who are mostly in office. That's the problem with you guys, you continue to think you're holding the mainstream position even as the politicians and political parties supported fade into oblivion.


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As a frequent denizen of the darker corners of the interweb make no mistake: this stuff has been written by someone else. I can practically identify the websites he's been surfing late at night over a glass of red.



So the dark web is what drives people to become completely loco, right?


I don't know. I have never once in my life looked at a single page of the dark web.


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I don't know. I have never once in my life looked at a single page of the dark web.


So racist. ;)

Edited to add emoji for the benefit of the hard of discerning tongue in cheek.


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You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco. Celebrity psychologist Dr Drew, who lives in Burbank, is thinking of running against him he's so shocked to see a certifiable lunatic roaming around causing this kind of damage.


With California's top two system, you could probably have 2 Democrats on the ballot in November in the district. Not sure if the district is far enough left that a 2nd Democrat would defeat the top Republican, but Republicans in California have not really embraced their power in my opinion under the top two system. Back to the hilt the moderate Democrat on the ballot and if the Democratic vote splits in any appreciable way, they could ride Schiff out of Congress.

Unfortunately - and one of the reasons people that people that propose voting change don't really get - is people are too set in their ways and don't actually cooperate with the system. The last California Senate election was 2 Democrats - longtime incumbent Dianne Feinstein and a Democratic challenger I think to her left. The undervote in the race compared to Governor which had 1 Democrat and 1 Republican was I think a million, who must be assumed are almost entirely Republicans. The Republican voting base in the state could if they choose to do so in certain races where no Republican is present on the November ballot push the delegation that goes to Washington further right, but so far they as a group haven't done so.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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So the dark web is what drives people to become completely loco, right?


I don't know. I have never once in my life looked at a single page of the dark web.


I have just worked out how you do it.

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You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco. Celebrity psychologist Dr Drew, who lives in Burbank, is thinking of running against him he's so shocked to see a certifiable lunatic roaming around causing this kind of damage.


With California's top two system, you could probably have 2 Democrats on the ballot in November in the district. Not sure if the district is far enough left that a 2nd Democrat would defeat the top Republican, but Republicans in California have not really embraced their power in my opinion under the top two system. Back to the hilt the moderate Democrat on the ballot and if the Democratic vote splits in any appreciable way, they could ride Schiff out of Congress.

Unfortunately - and one of the reasons people that people that propose voting change don't really get - is people are too set in their ways and don't actually cooperate with the system. The last California Senate election was 2 Democrats - longtime incumbent Dianne Feinstein and a Democratic challenger I think to her left. The undervote in the race compared to Governor which had 1 Democrat and 1 Republican was I think a million, who must be assumed are almost entirely Republicans. The Republican voting base in the state could if they choose to do so in certain races where no Republican is present on the November ballot push the delegation that goes to Washington further right, but so far they as a group haven't done so.


Article here on it: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/d ... f-congress

Looks like he would take the route you are suggesting: as a Demcrat. Which he probably is, but he's very GOP-adjacent, being a sort of Tucker-ite. His big thing is the homeless crisis - which he says is not a housing crisis, but a mental illness and addiction crisis. I've listened to lots of his podcasts on addiction. He's really really good.


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Not sure if it's somewhere above, but it was nice of Trump to admit (again) in public he's wrong, this time by saying the Dems don't have the material evidence of his wrongdoing 'cause they (Trump's team) have al the material(s). It's not going to make any difference to the Senate, and I'm still not sure it'd be wise to remove him for his crimes in this case, but to be so brazen when in theory facing a charge of obstructing Congress by saying damn straight I've got the evidence they want is an unusual way to present oneself


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I saw that, it won’t matter to the likes of Lyndsay


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It doesn't matter. Period.


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Rinkals wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
penguin wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco.


You repeat this ad nauseam...and your evidence is? In fact, what am I doing...another f*cking wormhole of bullsh*t. Crack on. Enjoy yourself.


This is how I roll:

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Indeed, in an era of blogs, crazy conspiracy theories and questionable sources, actually holding views which are supported by real evidence seems unnecessary to you.


Holding the correct views is the most important thing. All the rest is frantic Google and Wikipedia searches.


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I saw that, it won’t matter to the likes of Lyndsay


He must be glad John McCain is dead not to see what Graham has become


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For those posters still depending for their news on certain mainstream news outlets, you wont have seen the clip of Biden on stage at a Council of Foreign Relations event.
This is the video where he confirms he threatened the Ukrainians with withholding aid money, unless they fired the Prosecutor investigating Burisma !
Still, Orange Man Bad, and all that..
Go to 52 minutes in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGJIXFqOqVQ


Except the prosecutor wasn't actively investigating Burisma and it was an official US policy to seek his removal.

Also, that video has had SHITLOADS of coverage. You're basically doing the Trump thing where he finds out a well known fact and then talks like everyone else didn't already know it.


:lol: :lol:

Gotta give it to him though, he's a wee battler. Mind you, these "conspiracy" types have spotty internet access in the back blocks of Idaho.


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Schiff has been very impressive and perfectly sane in how he has laid out the chronology of event leading to and beyond the July 25th phone call. He made a compelling case describing how the Ukrainians were feeling pressure from Trump and Trump's requests.

No quid pro quo...just a "Geopolitical shake down scheme"


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
penguin wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco.


You repeat this ad nauseam...and your evidence is? In fact, what am I doing...another f*cking wormhole of bullsh*t. Crack on. Enjoy yourself.


This is how I roll:

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Indeed, in an era of blogs, crazy conspiracy theories and questionable sources, actually holding views which are supported by real evidence seems unnecessary to you.


Holding the correct views is the most important thing. All the rest is frantic Google and Wikipedia searches.


Certainly, you can get confirmation that your views are correct from countless blogs, crazy conspiracy theory websites and questionable sources, provided you don't examine them too closely.

But I suppose, as long as your views are confirmed, that's all that matters.


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Schiff has been very impressive and perfectly sane in how he has laid out the chronology of event leading to and beyond the July 25th phone call. He made a compelling case describing how the Ukrainians were feeling pressure from Trump and Trump's requests.

No quid pro quo...just a "Geopolitical shake down scheme"


Schiff knocked out the park, pretty impressive stuff from a guy so clearly INSANE


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Schiff is a vegan, who do endurance events and write screenplays... Now I understand how he feeds his fantasies.

Mad as a howling snake, he is


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Sounds like he would make a great president.


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Schiff is a vegan, who do endurance events and write screenplays... Now I understand how he feeds his fantasies.

Mad as a howling snake, he is


Runs marathons so top bloke. :nod:


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
penguin wrote:
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You think he's not mentally ill?

Seriously the bloke is entirely loco.


You repeat this ad nauseam...and your evidence is? In fact, what am I doing...another f*cking wormhole of bullsh*t. Crack on. Enjoy yourself.


This is how I roll:

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Indeed, in an era of blogs, crazy conspiracy theories and questionable sources, actually holding views which are supported by real evidence seems unnecessary to you.


Holding the correct views is the most important thing. All the rest is frantic Google and Wikipedia searches.


Coincidentally, I also hold the correct views, I’m sure everyone else here also knows this to be true of themselves.


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nuts, or just another lefty with TDS?

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some posters here seemed to be perfectly normal lads...before trump.


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