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Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:32 am**

shanky wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:22 pm
Short Man Syndrome wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:58 pm I don't understand why Sneaker is being such a pussy and hiding behind his Santa log in. Does he believe that this persona gives him more licence to be a dickhead?
I agree. He’s completely rubbishing his legacy with this bovine mong log-in

Sadly.

It’s a down grade but this place would be insufferably dull without either.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:02 am**

EverReady wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:26 am All the little right wingers with their daddy and riding mammy problems posting posting posting.

Astonishing post.

Is this an insight into the Irish psyche?

Or just yours?

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:22 am**

This disrespecting dead soldiers is getting traction.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:35 am**

Even though I think he probably did say it, I'd think it was pretty damned funny if some actual fake news was the final nail in his political coffin.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:35 am**

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:22 am This disrespecting dead soldiers is getting traction.

The story is certainly being discussed.

It is also being ridiculed.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 am**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:22 am This disrespecting dead soldiers is getting traction.
The story is certainly being discussed.

It is also being ridiculed.

Even Fox news is confirming it.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 am**

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:22 am This disrespecting dead soldiers is getting traction.
The story is certainly being discussed.

It is also being ridiculed.
Even Fox news is confirming it.

Confirmed there a story, yes.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:45 am**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:02 am
EverReady wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:26 am All the little right wingers with their daddy and riding mammy problems posting posting posting.
Astonishing post.

Is this an insight into the Irish psyche?

Or just yours?

I thought you were Irish

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:47 am**

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:45 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:02 am
EverReady wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:26 am All the little right wingers with their daddy and riding mammy problems posting posting posting.
Astonishing post.

Is this an insight into the Irish psyche?

Or just yours?
I thought you were Irish

Due to the stupidity of my posts?

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:54 am**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:22 am This disrespecting dead soldiers is getting traction.
The story is certainly being discussed.

It is also being ridiculed.
Even Fox news is confirming it.
Confirmed there a story, yes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... osers.html

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:55 am**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:47 am
Big Nipper wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:45 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:02 am
EverReady wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:26 am All the little right wingers with their daddy and riding mammy problems posting posting posting.
Astonishing post.

Is this an insight into the Irish psyche?

Or just yours?
I thought you were Irish
Due to the stupidity of my posts?

Nah, just the frequency of your posting, akin to the Swarm

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:35 am**

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:22 am This disrespecting dead soldiers is getting traction.
The story is certainly being discussed.

It is also being ridiculed.
Even Fox news is confirming it.

Nobody can confirm anything because it's all anonymous sources. The only non-anonymous source, John Bolton, has refuted it.

Trump says a lot of dumb and sometimes nasty things but in this instance I think he's been set up.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:44 am**

New Guy 2 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:22 am This disrespecting dead soldiers is getting traction.
The story is certainly being discussed.

It is also being ridiculed.
Even Fox news is confirming it.
Nobody can confirm anything because it's all anonymous sources. The only non-anonymous source, John Bolton, has refuted it.

Trump says a lot of dumb and sometimes nasty things but in this instance I think he's been set up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... osers.html

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:48 am**

New Guy 2 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:22 am This disrespecting dead soldiers is getting traction.
The story is certainly being discussed.

It is also being ridiculed.
Even Fox news is confirming it.
Nobody can confirm anything because it's all anonymous sources. The only non-anonymous source, John Bolton, has refuted it.

Trump says a lot of dumb and sometimes nasty things but in this instance I think he's been set up.

John Bolton said he didn't hear it but wouldn't be surprised if he said it when he wasn't there. It's something Donald would say. It's confirmed by high profile journalists. I'd take their words over QAnon.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:50 am**

The hoops these Trump bootlickers are willing to jump through are extraordinary

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:54 am**

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:50 am The hoops these Trump bootlickers are willing to jump through are extraordinary

It's a cult. If Trump knows the amount of money that can be made from his cult he'd quit the presidency and start a Church.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:03 am**

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:48 am
New Guy 2 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:35 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:22 am This disrespecting dead soldiers is getting traction.
The story is certainly being discussed.

It is also being ridiculed.
Even Fox news is confirming it.
Nobody can confirm anything because it's all anonymous sources. The only non-anonymous source, John Bolton, has refuted it.

Trump says a lot of dumb and sometimes nasty things but in this instance I think he's been set up.
John Bolton said he didn't hear it but wouldn't be surprised if he said it when he wasn't there. It's something Donald would say. It's confirmed by high profile journalists. I'd take their words over QAnon.

I find it surprising that Trump saying something as obscene as "US war dead are losers" doesn't make it back to John Bolton, or become public knowledge until 60 days before the election.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:06 am**

Bolton didn't hear what Trump said about John McCain?

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:11 am**

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:06 am Bolton didn't hear what Trump said about John McCain?

He didn't hear what Trump is alleged to have said in France in 2018. He'd surely know about it if it happened.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:14 am**

Keep lickin them boots, New Guy 2

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:14 am**

New Guy 2 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:11 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:06 am Bolton didn't hear what Trump said about John McCain?
He didn't hear what Trump is alleged to have said in France in 2018. He'd surely know about it if it happened.

He didn't deny knowing it. He just said he didn't hear it from Trump.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:14 am**

The timing of this revelation coming so close to an election is something it seems reasonable to quibble about, though it's Trump, every week seems to come with shocking revelations and there's no reason to suppose it stops now. It's almost like being a thick as shit, narcissistic, corrupt, conspiracy theorist with racist leanings and sexual assault history who surrounds himself with some awful people lends itself to some less than flattering stories about his behaviour.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:48 pm**

Did anyone mention Pompeo sanctions on ICC prosecutor?

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:42 pm**

piquant wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:14 am The timing of this revelation coming so close to an election is something it seems reasonable to quibble about, though it's Trump, every week seems to come with shocking revelations and there's no reason to suppose it stops now. It's almost like being a thick as shit, narcissistic, corrupt, conspiracy theorist with racist leanings and sexual assault history who surrounds himself with some awful people lends itself to some less than flattering stories about his behaviour.

You're quibbling about the timing of this? if Comey hadn't "reopened his investigation" into Clinton's emails 2 days before polling in 2016, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:59 pm**

According to Goldberg the eyewitnesses have been kept anonymous to proteft them from being inundated with angry tweets. I have symoathy. This is clearly a case where whistleblower regulation has failed to keep pace with changing technology.

Also Bolton must be kicking himself for not including the episode in his book.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:12 pm**

DOB wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:42 pm
piquant wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:14 am The timing of this revelation coming so close to an election is something it seems reasonable to quibble about, though it's Trump, every week seems to come with shocking revelations and there's no reason to suppose it stops now. It's almost like being a thick as shit, narcissistic, corrupt, conspiracy theorist with racist leanings and sexual assault history who surrounds himself with some awful people lends itself to some less than flattering stories about his behaviour.
You're quibbling about the timing of this? if Comey hadn't "reopened his investigation" into Clinton's emails 2 days before polling in 2016, we wouldn't be in this mess.

I'm saying the media holding back a story until they deem the opportune moment wouldn't surprise, but given Trump's behaviour we get this sort of scandal all the time from the orange one, if it wasn't this it would be something else, I doubt at this point Trump would suddenly have veered into the territory of basic competency and decency absent of this latest story detailing his failings as a human

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:36 pm**

Makes sense if you have full blown TDS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... naldJTrump

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:02 pm**

This is all setting a nice evidentiary standard.

Apparently one anonymous source making the same claim as another anonymous source now equals confirmed. So that all you need.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:46 pm**

OK just trying to step through this.

We have 6 different sources making the claim and Bolton and H-S denying. Add Trump that means at least 9 people witnessed the outburst.

It should be fairly easy to guess who the six are. Unless there were more than 9. If there were more than 9, say 11 or 12, that would mean say 10 or 11 people, including Bolton and H-S who are clearly lying, sat on this for 2 years. At the very least 8 people sat on it. Without a hint if a leak until now. In contrast to all the other leaks, which happen within minutes, days or weeks. That's quite a feat. Tje question is why. Why would at least 8 people sit on this so tightly for so long?

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:52 pm**

I mean why not bring this out during the impeachment. Were they holding something back just in case? Possible I suppose.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:05 pm**

Santa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:46 pm Bolton...denying.

Yes, listen to this categorical denial from Bolton.

“I didn’t hear him say those things....Now, did he say those things to other people later in the day? It’s certainly possible.”

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:07 pm**

Look I'm with you guys. It is undoubtedly true, and we know that because he is capable of saying it by which I mean he might say it as opposed.to might not like Biden. So we are aligned there.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:13 pm**

Here's the Atlantic article and the relevant excerpt.

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

So it looks like Bolton wasn't at the early meeting or near the later conversation. But at least 7 other people were including H-S, who is a liar. Still a neat feat for all those people to keep schtum.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:15 pm**

I personally don’t believe these fake anonymous sources.

There is absolutely nothing Trump has said in the past that would make me believe them.

I mean he only called McCain a loser twice in public, which is essentially zero times so why would I believe that he would ever say it in private.

On a similar not, he only openly mocked an injured POW once that I know, so there is nothing that will convince me that he would ever do it when he thought no one was listening.

It is all completely against the character of the man.

Next you will be telling me he is a sex pest just because he bragged about molesting women that one time he was unlucky enough to have left his mic on

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:21 pm**

BokJock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:15 pm I personally don’t believe these fake anonymous sources.

There is absolutely nothing Trump has said in the past that would make me believe them.

I mean he only called McCain a loser twice in public, which is essentially zero times so why would I believe that he would ever say it in private.

On a similar not, he only openly mocked an injured POW once that I know, so there is nothing that will convince me that he would ever do it when he thought no one was listening.

It is all completely against the character of the man.

You don't? I do. Mainly because he said something similar about somebody else some other time, which means he definitely said it this time. And he didnt say it when he thought nobody was listening. He said when he thought that at least 7 other people were listening.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:27 pm**

7 people is practically no one when you were willing to say it in front of an audience and with the cameras rolling.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:30 pm**

BokJock wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:27 pm 7 people is practically no one when you were willing to say it in front of an audience and with the cameras rolling.

Make your mind up. Was it nobody listening or everybody?

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:33 pm**

Santa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:17 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 am It doesn't matter whether he's Catholic, the message is still universal.

Christianity is very important to a lot of Americans and Trump has managed to invent an image of being the defender of the faith. Sure there are supporters who would vote for him anyway regardless. However, I reckon there are those who just believe Trump is the candidate that best represent the faith. Biden needs to preach to those. They like Trump because he's openly promoting the faith and not caring what other religions think particularly muslim. We might call it bigotry, they see it as a refreshing, a breathe of fresh air.

Biden doesn't need to trash other religions but he definitely needs to preach the faith. The Christian vote is the most important, especially in the battleground states.
Look this is really very simple. It doesn't matter what Biden is and it doeant matter how many Christians are in the US. What matters is that Biden is politically aligned with people who publicly and actively hate religion and seek to reduce religious freedoms. This is obvious.

No fuckwit, what is obvious is that as a "republican" Trump is aligned to the freedom loving right to life movement.

I must say I love reading this thread and watching your shit attempts at validating your own intelligence. There are certain posters on here: Groucho, Hermes, Seneca, Waratah etc.. where it quite clearly shines through. You on the other hand are like the annoying wit kant down the pub that no one wants to join the table as they're just so desperate to fit in it just becomes sad to watch and depresses everyone.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:37 pm**

The other thing is the frequency with which these things have turned out to be true and you guys have turned out to be right. Time after time after time. It is unrelenting.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:38 pm**

RuggaBugga wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:33 pm
Santa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:17 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 am It doesn't matter whether he's Catholic, the message is still universal.

Christianity is very important to a lot of Americans and Trump has managed to invent an image of being the defender of the faith. Sure there are supporters who would vote for him anyway regardless. However, I reckon there are those who just believe Trump is the candidate that best represent the faith. Biden needs to preach to those. They like Trump because he's openly promoting the faith and not caring what other religions think particularly muslim. We might call it bigotry, they see it as a refreshing, a breathe of fresh air.

Biden doesn't need to trash other religions but he definitely needs to preach the faith. The Christian vote is the most important, especially in the battleground states.
Look this is really very simple. It doesn't matter what Biden is and it doeant matter how many Christians are in the US. What matters is that Biden is politically aligned with people who publicly and actively hate religion and seek to reduce religious freedoms. This is obvious.
No fuckwit, what is obvious is that as a "republican" Trump is aligned to the freedom loving right to life movement.

I must say I love reading this thread and watching your shit attempts at validating your own intelligence. There are certain posters on here: Groucho, Hermes, Seneca, Waratah etc.. where it quite clearly shines through. You on the other hand are like the annoying plum down the pub that no one wants to join the table as they're just so desperate to fit in it just becomes sad to watch and depresses everyone.

You forgot me. No hard feelings though, clearly just an oversight.

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