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Biden just extended lead in Wisconsin

Trumps lead down to 2k in MI per DDHQ

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:17 pm

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:15 pm

BokJock wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:11 pm

message #2527204 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:54 pm Why is everyone so invested in this?

It is the best thing on TV, Trump is a better villain than Joffrey

and biden is a worse leader than Tommen

the lesser of two idiots

Joe is Tywin. Trump is Robert.

No he's not, and he's not.

Joe is a patsy, Trump can never unite, that's what each must overcome

A country of what.... 300m?


And we are down to sub 10k of votes in a state here or there....

Starting to look all but guaranteed for Biden

RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:08 pm

Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:56 pm

Wayne County (Detroit) just reported roughly 150K ballots, and nearly 140K were for Biden.

Just this update cut Trump's lead in Michigan by nearly two thirds.

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/13239 ... 85378?s=20

93% in a county which voted 76% in 2016? Ok.....

Wayne County as a whole is only 67-31 in favour of Biden. Still huge numbers of votes to come in for Biden - assuming that Biden carries it in roughly the same numbers as Clinton did (and your numbers are correct).

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:20 pm

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:17 pm

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:15 pm

BokJock wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:11 pm

message #2527204 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:54 pm Why is everyone so invested in this?

It is the best thing on TV, Trump is a better villain than Joffrey

and biden is a worse leader than Tommen

the lesser of two idiots

Joe is Tywin. Trump is Robert.

No he's not, and he's not.

Joe is a patsy, Trump can never unite, that's what each must overcome

Trump did become King. Joe was hand of the previous King.

Hilary is Jon Snow

If the voting is found to be fraudulent, the supreme court decides, no?

I imagine trump to fully charge that way

nardol wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm Hilary is Jon Snow

Hilary is cersei to a tee, right down to her husband f**king every women in his kingdom, bar her

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:25 pm

nardol wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm Hilary is Jon Snow

Hilary is cersei to a tee, right down to her husband f**king every women in his kingdom, bar her

Who was that crazy bitch who was Trump's first press secretary??

She'd be the one who throws people out of her moon hole or whatever they called it. High up in the clouds.

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm If the voting is found to be fraudulent, the supreme court decides, no?

I imagine trump to fully charge that way

How would it be fraudulent?

Ballots were posted days ago. Just because it takes a while to count isn't the voters fault.

Supreme court will throw it out.

It’s not the votes that count, it’s who counts them that do.

iarmhiman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:29 pm

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm If the voting is found to be fraudulent, the supreme court decides, no?

I imagine trump to fully charge that way

How would it be fraudulent?

Ballots were posted days ago. Just because it takes a while to count isn't the voters fault.

Supreme court will throw it out.

It is widely accepted that the Democrats have infiltrated the ballot system to rig the election. Not just America that this happens.

iarmhiman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:29 pm

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm If the voting is found to be fraudulent, the supreme court decides, no?

I imagine trump to fully charge that way

How would it be fraudulent?

Ballots were posted days ago. Just because it takes a while to count isn't the voters fault.

Supreme court will throw it out.

No idea, rumours circulating of Trump strongholds having ballots canceled, either its Trumpeters shitting the bed, or its not, it would have to be investigated

The real victory for the GOP is the Senate. With a GOP majority Biden is a lame duck, any Supreme Court Reforms are dead with the Conservative Majority in the Supreme Court locked in.

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm If the voting is found to be fraudulent, the supreme court decides, no?

I imagine trump to fully charge that way

There's no evidence of Fraud. THis is just the order the ballots are counted(in some cases because they couldn't start an early count because GOP wouldn't let them).

Derwyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:31 pm

iarmhiman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:29 pm

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm If the voting is found to be fraudulent, the supreme court decides, no?

I imagine trump to fully charge that way

How would it be fraudulent?

Ballots were posted days ago. Just because it takes a while to count isn't the voters fault.

Supreme court will throw it out.

It is widely accepted that the Democrats have infiltrated the ballot system to rig the election. Not just America that this happens.

yes, widely

If Democrats have done that why do they lose elections in the US so god damn often?

(edit. I dont actually want you to answer)

paddyor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:32 pm

Theflier wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm If the voting is found to be fraudulent, the supreme court decides, no?

I imagine trump to fully charge that way

There's no evidence of Fraud. THis is just the order the ballots are counted(in some cases because they couldn't start an early count because GOP wouldn't let them).

Sure, but if there is, then does it go to the supreme court? because if so you'd imagine TRump to push for that

Stupid question but say Trump loses, does he still remain a politician?
In the UK he would stay being a MP, Ireland a TD but how does it work in the states?
Will he still be head of the Republican party?

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:37 pm Stupid question but say Trump loses, does he still remain a politician?
In the UK he would stay being a MP, Ireland a TD but how does it work in the states?
Will he still be head of the Republican party?

He has no position to fall back on.

mdaclarke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:32 pm The real victory for the GOP is the Senate. With a GOP majority Biden is a lame duck, any Supreme Court Reforms are dead with the Conservative Majority in the Supreme Court locked in.

No he;'s out in the cold.

This result could be the perfect result for Republican Moderates

They get rid of the Donald and with a GOP Senate majority Biden is a lame duck, any Supreme Court Reforms are dead with the Conservative Majority in the Supreme Court locked in.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/0 ... ins-434013

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:37 pm Stupid question but say Trump loses, does he still remain a politician?
In the UK he would stay being a MP, Ireland a TD but how does it work in the states?
Will he still be head of the Republican party?

According to some on here, he goes straight to prison.

Charged with not being Hilary

paddyor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:38 pm

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:37 pm Stupid question but say Trump loses, does he still remain a politician?
In the UK he would stay being a MP, Ireland a TD but how does it work in the states?
Will he still be head of the Republican party?

He has no position to fall back on.

Is he still entitled to his ministers and teachers pension?

mdaclarke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:38 pm

mdaclarke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:32 pm The real victory for the GOP is the Senate. With a GOP majority Biden is a lame duck, any Supreme Court Reforms are dead with the Conservative Majority in the Supreme Court locked in.

No he;'s out in the cold.

This result could be the perfect result for Republican Moderates

They get rid of the Donald and with a GOP Senate majority Biden is a lame duck, any Supreme Court Reforms are dead with the Conservative Majority in the Supreme Court locked in.

Biden can blame the Senate for not pushing his reforms. Then concentrate on charging Trump and his family and exposing the corruption. By the midterm elections the Republicans will be public enemy number 1. Dems wins majority in both Houses. Joe hands out healthcare and money just in time for the next election.

nardol wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm Hilary is Jon Snow

Surely Eric Trump; son of the king, knows nothing.

DOB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:45 pm

nardol wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm Hilary is Jon Snow

Surely Eric Trump; son of the king, knows nothing.

But I liked Jon Snow and he was at least somewhat useful

Farage claiming massive voter fraud.

Crumbles under questioning when asked for evidence.

Flametop wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:42 pm

paddyor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:38 pm

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:37 pm Stupid question but say Trump loses, does he still remain a politician?
In the UK he would stay being a MP, Ireland a TD but how does it work in the states?
Will he still be head of the Republican party?

He has no position to fall back on.

Is he still entitled to his ministers and teachers pension?

He’s entitled to Secret Service protection for another 10 or 20 years. Used to be for life, but presidents started living too long after leaving office.

Trump hasn't given up yet...

DOB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:45 pm

nardol wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm Hilary is Jon Snow

Surely Eric Trump; son of the king, knows nothing.

Yeah but Jon Snow was quite likable...

nardol wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:47 pm

DOB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:45 pm

nardol wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:23 pm Hilary is Jon Snow

Surely Eric Trump; son of the king, knows nothing.

But I liked Jon Snow and he was at least somewhat useful

So Bernie is Jon Snow?

DOB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:50 pm

Flametop wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:42 pm

paddyor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:38 pm

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:37 pm Stupid question but say Trump loses, does he still remain a politician?
In the UK he would stay being a MP, Ireland a TD but how does it work in the states?
Will he still be head of the Republican party?

He has no position to fall back on.

Is he still entitled to his ministers and teachers pension?

He’s entitled to Secret Service protection for another 10 or 20 years. Used to be for life, but presidents started living too long after leaving office.

At his age that will be life

If there is voter fraud, everyone should be disturbed.

Some thoughts after a night of sleep:

1.) This is a massive miss of the polling industry even if Biden pulls off a win. I've not read what Nate Silver is doing yet but for how he treated Trafalgar the past couple weeks who appears to have been closest, he should update his resume.
2.) It could just be that it's not possible for polling to be as accurate in this day and age. You can't conduct online polls and phone polls are going to have a bias as long as people can see who's calling and reject the call or turn the phone off when the person on the other end starts talking.
3.) There was a large online people belief maybe hope that this would be a resounding Biden victory to not only have Biden win but to demonstrate a complete rejection of Trump. That's not going to happen.
4.) If Biden wins, there's no downballot coattails. The Senate appears to be more or less what it was, the House had a few seats go Republican, and for the upcoming redistricting for the census, state legislatures I think have largely stayed what they were.
5.) Most telling things to me of CBS' analysis last night was the first they had an exit poll. For people that said "containing Covid was the most important thing", Biden won them massively. For people that said economy and jobs was the most important thing, Trump won them massively. Both over 80 points. You rarely in U.S. politics get such a binary system to explain how voters vote. The second is one point in the night they were talking about North Carolina voters and they separated early voters from election day voters. Election day voters were breaking 69-30 for Trump. Now a lot of Biden voters voted early but that's still a huge difference that would destroy most election modeling.

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:52 pm If there is voter fraud, everyone should be disturbed.

Even Pence is calling for all mailed in ballots to be counted. Try and keep up, please.