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Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:56 pm**

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:37 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:34 pm
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:28 pm
TheFrog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:26 pm Question to the experts here : in 2024, if Trump wants to run again, does he get a pass from the Republicans or does he have to go through the primaries?
Assuming he loses this election? Which is a HUGE assumption.
He'll lose, ACB will stick the final dagger in his heart.

If Donald or Don jr or Kushner wants to run next election they'll get a free pass. Trump owns the GOP.
Throughout the last 4 years I've often wondered who was the puppet and who was the puppet master in the Trum/GOP relationship. I have come to the conclusion that the GOP was always using Trump as a means to an end.

Yep.

In the beginning it was Trump using the GOP, but in the end they had the last laugh. Foreign policy and trade aside, it's been a typical GOP presidency from a policy standpoint.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:58 pm**

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:37 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:34 pm
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:28 pm
TheFrog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:26 pm Question to the experts here : in 2024, if Trump wants to run again, does he get a pass from the Republicans or does he have to go through the primaries?
Assuming he loses this election? Which is a HUGE assumption.
He'll lose, ACB will stick the final dagger in his heart.

If Donald or Don jr or Kushner wants to run next election they'll get a free pass. Trump owns the GOP.
Throughout the last 4 years I've often wondered who was the puppet and who was the puppet master in the Trum/GOP relationship. I have come to the conclusion that the GOP was always using Trump as a means to an end.

The GOP you're talking about the so called top people behind the scenes have lost control of the party. How many high profile GOP leaders have come out against Trump? It didn't work as the grassroot supporters are with Trump as shown in the election. The only GOP leaders still relevant - Mitch and co are the ones licking Trump's boots.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:59 pm**

Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:53 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:34 pmTrump owns the GOP.
No, he's a useful idiot. They'll drop him like hot shit the moment he's not pres.

Yep.

It's going to be hilarious.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:59 pm**

Derwyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:56 pm Wisconsin turnout 89%

Give over!

Indeed it was 98%

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:00 pm**

Trump going to supreme court to halt penn count

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:01 pm**

iarmhiman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:00 pm Trump going to supreme court to halt penn count

Aren't they just trying to rule out the late arriving postal ballots? Which may not even matter.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:03 pm**

Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:53 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:34 pmTrump owns the GOP.
No, he's a useful idiot. They'll drop him like hot shit the moment he's not pres.

You think? Look at the result of the election. That's all on Trump. Look at how many GOP heavyweights have against Trump, even George Bush, John McCain, Lincoln Project, Never Trumpers etc. The grassroot is with Trump.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:03 pm**

Eric Trump, Kayleigh McEnany, and the Team Trump account are all falsely claiming victory in Pennsylvania.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:04 pm**

Bindi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:45 pm Murderes!!!!!

Eric Trump @EricTrump Dec 5, 2016
The Sad Truth: The Cost Of Stein/Clinton's #Wisconsin Vote Recount Could Have Saved At Least 5,000 Children's Live

Aaah the ol "think of the children" line when you got nothin

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:06 pm**

iarmhiman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:00 pm Trump going to supreme court to halt penn count

He can’t. He has no standing.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:10 pm**

shanky wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:06 pm
iarmhiman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:00 pm Trump going to supreme court to halt penn count
He can’t. He has no standing.

He's only challenging the mail in votes that arrive after election day, the ones that have already arrived and are due to be counted can't be challenged.
The way things are going he could lose the state even if the late arriving votes are excluded anyway

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:11 pm**

iarmhiman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:59 pm
Derwyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:56 pm Wisconsin turnout 89%

Give over!
Indeed it was 98%

Making fun of someone's disability?

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:12 pm**

EverReady wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:07 pm Lads I am claiming a Biden victory in Pennsylvania.

Trump's certainly shrinking, was plus 11 at one stage, now plus 6 according to NYT with 83% reported

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:14 pm**

de_Selby wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:10 pm
shanky wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:06 pm
iarmhiman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:00 pm Trump going to supreme court to halt penn count
He can’t. He has no standing.
He's only challenging the mail in votes that arrive after election day, the ones that have already arrived and are due to be counted can't be challenged.
The way things are going he could lose the state even if the late arriving votes are excluded anyway

Yes. Indeed.
He also has to go through the State court system which can take him a while. The Federal SC won’t hear this directly.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:18 pm**

Biden wins Michigan. YYYYYEEEESSSSSSSSSSS

That's a CNN projection. He's on 253 electoral votes

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:18 pm**

In the end America is a seriously dysfunctional society. There is nothing to be admired about America any longer. 'Country' most likely to turn fascist is probably the most apt description.

It is time for western societies to dump the USA and look to beat its own path. America is morally corrupt and without a compass. Remember its condemnation of apartheid South Africa? Its backing of the ANC? America is a racist society, geared to protect a white minority's wealth and way of life. A society in decline, whose system of governance has created a breed of class geared to holding onto power by manipulation, corruption and the suppression of the publics rights. These politicians do not create anything, do not work, they simply manipulate society and the press to stay in the news cycle.

Australia should look to distance itself from such a frivolous ally of ill repute and low standing in the world. Take the central path with allies like Canada and the EU. Avoid S T U P I D!

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:19 pm**

AnkleTap wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:22 pm
puku wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:09 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:07 pm
TheFrog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:56 pm Got to say Mick has become quieter... and Merry disappeared altogether.

Kudos to Santa and Derwyn who at least did try a bit.
Merry will tell you he never liked Trump anyway and just wanted to piss off "the lefties"
And Trump was never Mick's guy.
I need to up my game.

Kisses.

You never went full-retard like those two, even though I know you favored Trump.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:22 pm**

EverReady wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:07 pm Lads I am claiming a Biden victory in Pennsylvania.

Sure Hunter

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:22 pm**

If Biden does win this will be the last election that non-MSM news sources will feature online.

YT will shut down all dissenting voices.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:23 pm**

TheFrog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:50 pm
ticketlessinseattle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:39 pm
TheFrog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:38 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:34 pm
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:28 pm

Assuming he loses this election? Which is a HUGE assumption.
He'll lose, ACB will stick the final dagger in his heart.

If Donald or Don jr or Kushner wants to run next election they'll get a free pass. Trump owns the GOP.
GOP hates Kushner.
probably not as much as they hated Trump 4 years ago
They see Kushner as a Democrat

It is the genetics.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:24 pm**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:22 pm If Biden does win this will be the last election that non-MSM news sources will feature online.

YT will shut down all dissenting voices.

Reported for dissent.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:25 pm**

ticketlessinseattle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:11 pm
iarmhiman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:59 pm
Derwyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:56 pm Wisconsin turnout 89%

Give over!
Indeed it was 98%
Making fun of someone's disability?

Thinking person's joke

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:26 pm**

The Optimist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:18 pm In the end America is a seriously dysfunctional society. There is nothing to be admired about America any longer. 'Country' most likely to turn fascist is probably the most apt description.

It is time for western societies to dump the USA and look to beat its own path. America is morally corrupt and without a compass. Remember its condemnation of apartheid South Africa? Its backing of the ANC? America is a racist society, geared to protect a white minority's wealth and way of life. A society in decline, whose system of governance has created a breed of class geared to holding onto power by manipulation, corruption and the suppression of the publics rights. These politicians do not create anything, do not work, they simply manipulate society and the press to stay in the news cycle.

Australia should look to distance itself from such a frivolous ally of ill repute and low standing in the world. Take the central path with allies like Canada and the EU. Avoid S T U P I D!

With Nevada and Michigan looking good for Biden, a Trump victory from here would throw huge doubts as to the legitimacy of the U.S Government. Folks we would be talking a rogue nation, a wealthy nation run along the lines of North Korea by a ruling elite.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:28 pm**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:22 pm If Biden does win this will be the last election that non-MSM news sources will feature online.

YT will shut down all dissenting voices.

I think the New York Post's Twitter account is still shut down and they're pretty mainstream. Besides the point of this thread but sites like Twitter and Facebook and Youtube are really asking for federal lawsuits with their internal regulatory methods.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:29 pm**

The Optimist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:18 pm In the end America is a seriously dysfunctional society. There is nothing to be admired about America any longer. 'Country' most likely to turn fascist is probably the most apt description.

It is time for western societies to dump the USA and look to beat its own path. America is morally corrupt and without a compass. Remember its condemnation of apartheid South Africa? Its backing of the ANC? America is a racist society, geared to protect a white minority's wealth and way of life. A society in decline, whose system of governance has created a breed of class geared to holding onto power by manipulation, corruption and the suppression of the publics rights. These politicians do not create anything, do not work, they simply manipulate society and the press to stay in the news cycle.

Australia should look to distance itself from such a frivolous ally of ill repute and low standing in the world. Take the central path with allies like Canada and the EU. Avoid S T U P I D!

Really? Do they have militaries willing to defend themselves from Russia, Turkey etc?

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:32 pm**

Biden gets Michigan...thank fook. Suck on that Trump.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:32 pm**

The Optimist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:18 pm In the end America is a seriously dysfunctional society. There is nothing to be admired about America any longer. 'Country' most likely to turn fascist is probably the most apt description.

It is time for western societies to dump the USA and look to beat its own path. America is morally corrupt and without a compass. Remember its condemnation of apartheid South Africa? Its backing of the ANC? America is a racist society, geared to protect a white minority's wealth and way of life. A society in decline, whose system of governance has created a breed of class geared to holding onto power by manipulation, corruption and the suppression of the publics rights. These politicians do not create anything, do not work, they simply manipulate society and the press to stay in the news cycle.

Australia should look to distance itself from such a frivolous ally of ill repute and low standing in the world. Take the central path with allies like Canada and the EU. Avoid S T U P I D!

Do you pay attention to Canada? Not only is Justin Trudeau stupid but he is Clinton-level corrupt.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:33 pm**

EverReady wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:32 pm Biden calling for unity and a lowering of the rhetoric and temperature. What a fücking vagina

He is firing Fauci and replacing him with Tones

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:34 pm**

EverReady wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:32 pm Biden calling for unity and a lowering of the rhetoric and temperature. What a fücking vagina

He is only trying to lure the pussy grabber out.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:35 pm**

The Durham report should be along any minute.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:36 pm**

Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:47 pm
lemonhead wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:05 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:57 pm
Whatever wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:55 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:37 pm Trump has made CNN gun shy.

Weird they haven't called Wisconsin
Just announced that Wisconsin will be doing a recount - requested by Trump, state says it is "within the threshold" of a recount.

This is going to play and play. Sort it out, America.
And reported irregularities
Really, where?

Meagan Wolfe just said whole thing went off without any issues.
Mick's team lost. That's his issue.

That, and being mentally fragile.

I'm expecting the screaming and arm-waving to worsen, ditto the ad homs, until snap and he's outta here. Again.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:36 pm**

Last Line wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:32 pm Biden gets Michigan...thank fook. Suck on that Trump.

Nevada or Pennsylvania will put him over the top. Trump is going to court but won't find much love. The state courts will all cite state law and dismiss unless there's some state constitutional provision, but strikes me as a hail mary. His only chance is to get declared unconstitutional votes received after Election Day for Equal Protection Clause or something, but they're going to defer to established precedent I feel.

I'd be in favor of a federal law or constitutional amendment to just set the same standards for everywhere as far as absentee.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:39 pm**

EverReady wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:32 pm Biden calling for unity and a lowering of the rhetoric and temperature. What a fücking vagina

Yeah nothing like the blustering liar that Trump is!

Biden is doing what a lot of commentators are demanding senior Republicans do, calm the situation
the fudge down as Trump goes Nero overload.

Wonder if we'll have a few thousand pages on the Biden Presidency

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:39 pm**

Mick’s natural tendency toward contrarianism will allow him a new lease of life.

I see good things for him. Railing against the Biden machine. He’ll get the band back together, you wait.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:41 pm**

Rudi got his fly up and leading the legal route!

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:42 pm**

Flyin Ryan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:36 pm
Last Line wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:32 pm Biden gets Michigan...thank fook. Suck on that Trump.
Nevada or Pennsylvania will put him over the top. Trump is going to court but won't find much love. The state courts will all cite state law and dismiss unless there's some state constitutional provision, but strikes me as a hail mary. His only chance is to get declared unconstitutional votes received after Election Day for Equal Protection Clause or something, but they're going to defer to established precedent I feel.

I'd be in favor of a federal law or constitutional amendment to just set the same standards for everywhere as far as absentee.

Imagine that. Trump packs the SC with constitutionals, only to find they defer to the Constitution.
That shit would burrrnn, bro.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:43 pm**

shanky wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:42 pm
Flyin Ryan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:36 pm
Last Line wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:32 pm Biden gets Michigan...thank fook. Suck on that Trump.
Nevada or Pennsylvania will put him over the top. Trump is going to court but won't find much love. The state courts will all cite state law and dismiss unless there's some state constitutional provision, but strikes me as a hail mary. His only chance is to get declared unconstitutional votes received after Election Day for Equal Protection Clause or something, but they're going to defer to established precedent I feel.

I'd be in favor of a federal law or constitutional amendment to just set the same standards for everywhere as far as absentee.
Imagine that. Trump packs the SC with constitutionals, only to find they defer to the Constitution.
That shit would burrrnn, bro.

He has no power over them, not even Barrett. They can sit on the Court for life.

If it got to the Supreme Court I think the best Trump would do is 2 out of the 9 ruling in his favor.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:45 pm**

Indeed.

Mitch McConnell is the real winner today. He must be stoked.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:47 pm**

Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:53 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:34 pmTrump owns the GOP.
No, he's a useful idiot. They'll drop him like hot shit the moment he's not pres.

That would be absolutely perfect for the Democrats; if the GOP turn their back on Trump, they lose the huge voting block that he brought with him.

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:48 pm**

DOB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:47 pm
Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:53 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:34 pmTrump owns the GOP.
No, he's a useful idiot. They'll drop him like hot shit the moment he's not pres.
That would be absolutely perfect for the Democrats; if the GOP turn their back on Trump, they lose the huge voting block that he brought with him.

Yeah, but it would also drop Democrats to 3rd party status in large sections of the country they're uncompetitive in.

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