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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:38 am
by MrJonno
fonzeee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:29 am
Kiwias wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:22 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:21 am
fonzeee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:14 am
Whatever wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:48 am And the thought of the fat orange nutjob hitting that, ugh. And Ivanka and Kushner, just creepy.
Ivanka's hot, Melania I can't really decide.
I reckon ivanka is super dirty. I bet she's into glass bottom boating.
Not sure I want to google that.
I had to.

It doesn't sound so bad if you remove the fecal element.
You don't have to remove it, you just have to chlorinate it and everything is fine.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:40 am
by Jerome Manning
paddyor wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:35 am 32k gap with 78k ballots to go. That's too much
where?

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:41 am
by paddyor
765k votes left in PA with a lead of 160k to Trump. Biden needs 60% of remaining ballots to win.

90k in Georgia, Biden needs 55% to win.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:42 am
by paddyor
Jerome Manning wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:40 am
paddyor wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:35 am 32k gap with 78k ballots to go. That's too much
where?
GErogia. Could be wrong, see my next post.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:44 am
by grievous
fonzeee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:20 am Ok I'm not going to lie, the 89% turnout alleged in Wisconsin was extremely, extremely fishy. Thankfully, it's bullshit. Actual turnout was 71%. Only 200,000 more votes cast this time around than 2016. Not even the highest turnout this century.

Some wiseguy calculated (votes/registered voters), whereas it's (votes/voting age population)

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/veri ... 22496c3314
Compulsory voting would fix all that.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:44 am
by Whatever
Jerome Manning wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:40 am
paddyor wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:35 am 32k gap with 78k ballots to go. That's too much
where?
PA? It will be close though. I just hope Biden doesn't need it. 2020's Florida.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:46 am
by shanky
paddyor wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:41 am 765k votes left in PA with a lead of 160k to Trump. Biden needs 60% of remaining ballots to win.

90k in Georgia, Biden needs 55% to win.
In Pa we earlier had 300k adrift, with 900k to count

Looks promising for the Socialist

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:49 am
by dam0
paddyor wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:42 am
Jerome Manning wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:40 am
paddyor wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:35 am 32k gap with 78k ballots to go. That's too much
where?
GErogia. Could be wrong, see my next post.
I think there is slightly more vote outstanding than that. Even if your figure is correct, it is easily doable by Biden given where the vote comes from. That would only take 70%, Biden's doing better than that at the moment.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:52 am
by Newsome
Are Arizona and Nevada enough for Biden to win?

What's the chances he takes them both?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:52 am
by Working Class Rugger
Yes.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am
by shanky
Trump supporters are out protesting.

In Georgia they’re chanting “Stop the count”.
In Arizona, they’re chanting “Count the votes”

No, I’m not making this up

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am
by Jay Cee Gee
Newsome wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:52 am Are Arizona and Nevada enough for Biden to win?

What's the chances he takes them both?
Pretty good, but not a certainty by any means. Arizona is looking tight, Nevada is a mystery as they're not updating but the accepted wisdom was that Biden's lead should hold as postal ballots would favour him.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:57 am
by Jay Cee Gee
shanky wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am Trump supporters are out protesting.

In Georgia they’re chanting “Stop the count”.
In Arizona, they’re chanting “Count the votes”

No, I’m not making this up
Also, they're chanting 'Stop the Vote" in a bunch of places cause they're idiots.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:58 am
by Newsome
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am
Newsome wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:52 am Are Arizona and Nevada enough for Biden to win?

What's the chances he takes them both?
Pretty good, but not a certainty by any means. Arizona is looking tight, Nevada is a mystery as they're not updating but the accepted wisdom was that Biden's lead should hold as postal ballots would favour him.
So Nevada is really the only safeish bet to go blue. Should we be scared/terrified of a Trump miracle?

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:01 am
by Jay Cee Gee
Newsome wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:58 am
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am
Newsome wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:52 am Are Arizona and Nevada enough for Biden to win?

What's the chances he takes them both?
Pretty good, but not a certainty by any means. Arizona is looking tight, Nevada is a mystery as they're not updating but the accepted wisdom was that Biden's lead should hold as postal ballots would favour him.
So Nevada is really the only safeish bet to go blue. Should we be scared/terrified of a Trump miracle?
I mean, it's not impossible at this stage. But it'd mean not only Arizona continuing to break his way (and probably improving in his favoured county) but also him holding on in both GA and PA, which would mean a BIG reversal on the recent counting trends in the latter case.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 am
by MungoMan
shanky wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am Trump supporters are out protesting.

In Georgia they’re chanting “Stop the count”.
In Arizona, they’re chanting “Count the votes”

No, I’m not making this up
No bombing, no hostage takings reported as yet. Disappoint. :x

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:05 am
by pigaaaa
paddyor wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:41 am 765k votes left in PA with a lead of 160k to Trump. Biden needs 60% of remaining ballots to win.

90k in Georgia, Biden needs 55% to win.
How do you recon 90k? I see total number of votes is 4.8 million with 5% still to be counted. So around 250k votes still to go, no?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:05 am
by Whatever
shanky wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am Trump supporters are out protesting.

In Georgia they’re chanting “Stop the count”.
In Arizona, they’re chanting “Count the votes”

No, I’m not making this up
They showed Arizona on CNN. This is apparently the American democracy they are all so proud of, although the irony would be totally lost on them. This is what totalitarianism looks like.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:08 am
by Jay Cee Gee
So, apparently they actually have no clue how many votes are outstanding in GA (I mean, the official types do, but they're not telling the press).

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:11 am
by pigaaaa
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:08 am So, apparently they actually have no clue how many votes are outstanding in GA (I mean, the official types do, but they're not telling the press).
As many as needed /Mick

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:13 am
by Jay Cee Gee
pigaaaa wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:11 am
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:08 am So, apparently they actually have no clue how many votes are outstanding in GA (I mean, the official types do, but they're not telling the press).
As many as needed /Mick
Best estimate is around 60K votes left with Trump leading by about 16K. There was a count of 27K votes about 15 minutes ago that were +16K in Biden's favour, so if anything close to that holds, Biden would take it.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:19 am
by Whatever
Whatever wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:05 am
shanky wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am Trump supporters are out protesting.

In Georgia they’re chanting “Stop the count”.
In Arizona, they’re chanting “Count the votes”

No, I’m not making this up
They showed Arizona on CNN. This is apparently the American democracy they are all so proud of, although the irony would be totally lost on them. This is what totalitarianism looks like.
It's Phoenix, Maricopa County. Bunch of people outside where the people are counting, some with obvious firearms showing because it is open carry. The CNN reporter who is inside, and who is quite cute, looks pretty rattled. Police need to show up. So much wrong.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:20 am
by dam0
Newsome wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:58 am
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am
Newsome wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:52 am Are Arizona and Nevada enough for Biden to win?

What's the chances he takes them both?
Pretty good, but not a certainty by any means. Arizona is looking tight, Nevada is a mystery as they're not updating but the accepted wisdom was that Biden's lead should hold as postal ballots would favour him.
So Nevada is really the only safeish bet to go blue. Should we be scared/terrified of a Trump miracle?
Nah.

PA, AZ and NV are pretty safe at this stage. They aren't locked in, but they will most likely go Blue.

For example, the main county to count in AZ is Maricopa, which Biden is winning. Maricopa vote counting centre is where the protest is happening. That isn't a coincidence.



I believe that GA is also pretty safe Blue, but there's a bit more uncertainty about how many votes are left.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:28 am
by Whatever
dam0 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:20 am
Newsome wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:58 am
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am
Newsome wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:52 am Are Arizona and Nevada enough for Biden to win?

What's the chances he takes them both?
Pretty good, but not a certainty by any means. Arizona is looking tight, Nevada is a mystery as they're not updating but the accepted wisdom was that Biden's lead should hold as postal ballots would favour him.
So Nevada is really the only safeish bet to go blue. Should we be scared/terrified of a Trump miracle?
Nah.

PA, AZ and NV are pretty safe at this stage. They aren't locked in, but they will most likely go Blue.

For example, the main county to count in AZ is Maricopa, which Biden is winning. Maricopa vote counting centre is where the protest is happening. That isn't a coincidence.



I believe that GA is also pretty safe Blue, but there's a bit more uncertainty about how many votes are left.
Not PA, that will be a shitstorm; the last one to be reckoned.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:45 am
by Anonymous 1
shanky wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am Trump supporters are out protesting.

In Georgia they’re chanting “Stop the count”.
In Arizona, they’re chanting “Count the votes”

No, I’m not making this up
Someone was interviewing one of them in Arizona and it pissed me off when she didn't put it to him that Donald was actually trying to get them to stop counting the votes.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 am
by pigaaaa
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:13 am
pigaaaa wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:11 am
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:08 am So, apparently they actually have no clue how many votes are outstanding in GA (I mean, the official types do, but they're not telling the press).
As many as needed /Mick
Best estimate is around 60K votes left with Trump leading by about 16K. There was a count of 27K votes about 15 minutes ago that were +16K in Biden's favour, so if anything close to that holds, Biden would take it.
Where are you getting that data from?

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:49 am
by shanky
Anonymous 1 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:45 am
shanky wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:56 am Trump supporters are out protesting.

In Georgia they’re chanting “Stop the count”.
In Arizona, they’re chanting “Count the votes”

No, I’m not making this up
Someone was interviewing one of them in Arizona and it pissed me off when she didn't put it to him that Donald was actually trying to get them to stop counting the votes.
Had they stopped counting the votes in AZ, do you know?

Such that a protest was required in order to make them start again?
:lol:

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:58 am
by BokJock
CrazyIslander wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:35 am
fonzeee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:27 am
CrazyIslander wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:13 am
fonzeee wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:49 pm By the way, if the race ends up being this close and Trump was really a threat to pick up black voters, you do have to concede that Biden might well have been the only man who could get the job done. Concede even 25% of the black vote and the Democrats' whole electoral scheme is kaput.

He was the candidate equivalent of ten-man rugby: boring, unexciting, grinding out his advantage


but winning.
No, a can of tomato would've done the same. This was a referendum on Trump.
I keep seeing this line but I just don't get it.

If we were to assume it wasn't a referendum on Trump, how would it look different?
Trump would've won easy had he:
- paid lip service (lie) to BLM. Instead he mobilised the black/inner city votes
- Not undermine and attack Govt institutions. Turned off some Republicans
- listened to the CDC and Fauci. Biggest mistake of all. Could've listened to the CDC and blame them for the lockdown but claim credit for the recovery. It was an opportunity to be the caring/serious father of the nation.
Trump + caring father :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:02 am
by Jay Cee Gee
pigaaaa wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 am
Where are you getting that data from?
This twitter feed, but have seen the same numbers elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe

Basically, they were told approx 95K votes left, then a 27K vote count was announced leaving a bit less than 60K to be counted with Trump ahead by just under 16K. But there is a chance the vote tally is lower or higher than that.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:06 am
by Jay Cee Gee
These vote count announcements are like when you were illegally downloading movies on Kazaa and the "time remaining" bar would jump from 34 seconds to 9 hours all of a sudden.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:08 am
by BokJock
shanky wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:50 am Reagan was a terrible President.

Objectively...
also completely ignored a deadly global pandemic

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:08 am
by Jerome Manning
Tried to check the numbers in Pennsylvania, accidentally dragged the cursor over New York to see Biden leading with 55%.

Dam it :x

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:16 am
by Anonymous 1
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:06 am These vote count announcements are like when you were illegally downloading movies on Kazaa and the "time remaining" bar would jump from 34 seconds to 9 hours all of a sudden.
:lol:

To think you can get 6gb in minutes now

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:23 am
by fonzeee
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:06 am These vote count announcements are like when you were illegally downloading movies on Kazaa and the "time remaining" bar would jump from 34 seconds to 9 hours all of a sudden.
:lol:

Hell of a throwback there :thumbup:

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:29 am
by mr bungle
towny wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:34 am
shanky wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:34 am Trump, at least, was elected. For all his faults.

However, watching the shit-eating grins being wiped off the faces of his crime-family children will be worth the price of admission alone.
This :)
Go back a few hundred years and they’d all be hanging by their necks on the WH front lawn. They should count their blessings the corrupt carnts.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:20 am
by Nolanator
MrJonno wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:19 am
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:15 am
MrJonno wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:12 am The Guardian is so keen to be ahead of everyone else it is declaring states prematurely. They'll probably be right in th end but it is a little annoying. They have Biden on 264, while the beeb have him on a more restrained 243. Irish Times is compromising and have him on 253
253 seems to be the accepted wisdom currently - 243 would be excluding Wisconsin which has actually counted all votes, but hasn't officially declared due to the recount clause. 264 is including Arizona which is premature, even if it's very likely going to Biden.

It stands to reason that the out of those three the Irish Times would have it right. Perfidious bloody Albion
The guardian are taking their lead from AP.

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:35 am
by Derwyn
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:37 am
by wamberal
Linky link please?

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:38 am
by Big Nipper
Derwyn wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:35 am Image
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:39 am
by Derwyn
Despite the best (fraudulent) attempts by the Dem to win this election, I think Trump is looking good for Pennsylvania and Arizona.