Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:39 pm
every point above can be refuted but for starters you might want to look at the 2 highlighted onesmightyreds wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:11 pmTrump is a businessman and man of his word, not a politicker like his opponents. On day 1 he got straight to work on all of the 5 points you have mentioned, and contrary to your implication, he made good progress on them, such as the significant steps taken to improve the trainwreck that was Obama care.*Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:26 am Has Covid faded away yet?
Also, I see Pence talking about Trumps how much they've achieved and how they have kept their campaign promises. So I'm assuming the following have been completed?
- Obama care replaced.
- Hillary locked up.
- the wall built and paid for by Mexico
- The deficit down.
- Overseas jobs back in the US.
what did they do on day 2?
The degree to which he did not complete on them is the degree to which he was blocked by opponents (such as in the blocking of his attempts complete the Mexican wall and prevent all immigration from terrorist zones, which came from political opponents who welcomed an influx of illegals, criminals and terrorists who would likely vote for them).
And on day 2? (and following):
. He stopped the Chinese taking advantage of the US in their trade relations.
. Got the Europeans to pay their way in NATO.
. Actively hindered the Iranian nuclear effort, cancelling Obamas crazy deal which allowed them to enrich uranium. He also eliminated one of their key terrorists.
. He cancelled Obamas funding of terrorism, which had been via financial support for the Palestinian government.
. He reduced taxes, helping business to thrive.
. He got Kim Jong Un to calm down, by just going and meeting the guy, for God’s sake, with a simple step across the border diplomacy (now I know KJU has just revealed a brand new intercontinental missile, but nothing was going to stop him from doing that, except a nuclear war against him, and at least Trump shut him up, and stopped his maniacal threats and posturing).
. He brought about the move of the US Embassy to Jerusalem.
. He created the biggest advance towards peace in the Middle East since hostilities began, by getting the UAE and Bahrain to recognise Israel.
. He got unemployment down to a record low.
. He got black unemployment to a record low.
. He got black colleges funded.
. He brought back jobs and businesses to the US (so much for your point 5), and that includes strategic materials such as pharmaceuticals that the Chinese have been manufacturing without safeguards against impurities, and could cut off in the case of a war with the West.
*https://nypost.com/2020/09/26/11-things ... obamacare/
Not bad for Day 2.
And what have the Democrats done in opposition?
.Thrown their full support behind the BLM riots, a movement without integrity, based on the lie that police kill blacks in disproportionate numbers to whites (it's the opposite), and proceeding by violence, looting and quickly taken over by crime bosses who sealed off zones of cities and oversaw the tripling of crime (including murders) while Democrat governors denied police and troops the right to go in. Who in their right mind would vote for a Party that solves black problems by gifting them a trolley load of stolen goods? (what Afro-Americans need is to have their problems listened to and worked on with programs to advance their communities, not patronising assumptions that they are associated with the looters).
. 'I'll look after you', Biden says, but there's no policy to back it up - it's the politics of feeling: say nice things and make people feel good, and you don't have to have any substance behind it. Trump is actually doing something about these problems, without the posturing and theatrics of the Democrats.
. And then there's the whole raft of projects the Democrats are ready to unleash which would involve discredited energy sources such as wind farms and solar power, sources which have proved completed inadequate at providing high levels of power supplies.
Like I said before, this election comes at a frightening point in Americas history, and a Democrat victory would virtually ensure that their future as a country is a steep decline, one which would likely embolden their rivals to conflict with them. Unfortunately that's a future the current version of the Democrats would apparently welcome.
As long as she condemns poor people to no medical treatment, subjugates all women and makes sure that rapists can successfully sire children I will be happy.CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:39 pmTrump will be very disappointed with her. She's not a Bill Barr. She'll actually vote according to her own thoughts.
If Trump wanted a puppet he should've appointed Bill Barr.
As the saying goes, if you tried having an open mind your brain would fall out.by Santa » 27 Oct 2020 13:44
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑27 Oct 2020 13:39
Santa wrote: ↑27 Oct 2020 13:36
ACB. Top of the net. 3-0 the final score.
Trump will be very disappointed with her. She's not a Bill Barr. She'll actually vote according to her own thoughts.
If Trump wanted a puppet he should've appointed Bill Barr.
As long as she condemns poor people to no medical treatment, subjugates all women and makes sure that rapists can successfully sire children I will be happy.
Exactly, Mick Mannock, it beggars belief that anyone could consign their country into the hands of this sleazy, slimy character:Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:59 pm I am saddened by how many of you actually believe Biden is an upgrade on Trump. It is as if you willfully ignore his history of racism, hypocrisy, and now his corruption, and enablement of his son's deviancy, and criminal behaviour.
You are stupid people.
Biden may well win. It will be a disaster for the US if he does.
Sorry, I should have added, 'See the tweet on Justice Thomas', before the first link.mightyreds wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:51 pmExactly, Mick Mannock, it beggars belief that anyone could consign their country into the hands of this sleazy, slimy character:Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:59 pm I am saddened by how many of you actually believe Biden is an upgrade on Trump. It is as if you willfully ignore his history of racism, hypocrisy, and now his corruption, and enablement of his son's deviancy, and criminal behaviour.
You are stupid people.
Biden may well win. It will be a disaster for the US if he does.
https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/10/08/i ... t-of-2020/
Correction: sleazy, slimy, senile character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyV_j1aH_cc
She's a law professor and apparently a defender of the constitution. It would definitely have crossed her mind that her appointment is an attempt by Trump to influence the court. My bet, she'll excuse herself from the Affordable Care case.Santa wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:44 pmAs long as she condemns poor people to no medical treatment, subjugates all women and makes sure that rapists can successfully sire children I will be happy.CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:39 pmTrump will be very disappointed with her. She's not a Bill Barr. She'll actually vote according to her own thoughts.
If Trump wanted a puppet he should've appointed Bill Barr.![]()
You are the worst poster on this bored. I’m deeply saddened that you support the reds. You’re just a shit cnut.mightyreds wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:55 pmSorry, I should have added, 'See the tweet on Justice Thomas', before the first link.mightyreds wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:51 pmExactly, Mick Mannock, it beggars belief that anyone could consign their country into the hands of this sleazy, slimy character:Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:59 pm I am saddened by how many of you actually believe Biden is an upgrade on Trump. It is as if you willfully ignore his history of racism, hypocrisy, and now his corruption, and enablement of his son's deviancy, and criminal behaviour.
You are stupid people.
Biden may well win. It will be a disaster for the US if he does.
https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/10/08/i ... t-of-2020/
Correction: sleazy, slimy, senile character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyV_j1aH_cc
I don't know much about the supreme court. The only issues I know of that were party specific all the justices have voted on party lines.CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:55 pmShe's a law professor and apparently a defender of the constitution. It would definitely have crossed her mind that her appointment is an attempt by Trump to influence the court. My bet, she'll excuse herself from the Affordable Care case.Santa wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:44 pmAs long as she condemns poor people to no medical treatment, subjugates all women and makes sure that rapists can successfully sire children I will be happy.CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:39 pmTrump will be very disappointed with her. She's not a Bill Barr. She'll actually vote according to her own thoughts.
If Trump wanted a puppet he should've appointed Bill Barr.![]()
Remember, Trump has fired a lot of his appointees to his administration, many have pushed back at him. This time he can't fire this appointee. We'll know soon enough.
Saying the ends justify the means and putting up with people they know are cvnts to stick it to the "bad guys"? Yes.4071 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:06 amSure, it's "both sides"fonzeee wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:58 amTbf the confirmation of a third(!) conservative justice in four years just a few hours ago could certainly be said to vindicate the hold-your-nose-and-vote-for-whoever's-wearing-the-red-tie voters.Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:41 am It's the rank and file Republicans (including a former president) who refuse to vote for him who I understand. I wish like some others they would vote Democrat to hammer home the point.
Lots of "ends justifying the means" rationalizations in this day and age, on both sides.
Right.
She's going to turn over Obamacare, which will boot 10s of millions of Americans off their health insurance.
I'm afraid you @realDonaldTrump fans who have fallen for the Hunter Email scandal are going to be disappointed the Emails scandal is a dead cat. Here are some of them showing a deal including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. #TrumpLiesAmericansDie
Would you have her on our SC or ECJ panel?
This is the point I was making earlier. Although it's more like 20 years than 4.Zico wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:54 pm Be careful what you wish for.
Chances are that Democrats will have a full deck next year. The Orange conman wasted most of his window of opportunity vindictively attacking Obama's legacy, clearing house of dissenting voices and only really achieved a tax cut for his donors.
If the Biden administration can avoid being sidetracked into prosecuting the Orange sex offender and his cronies they could rewrite the rule book in their favour. After the last four years Democrats know there is no depth the GOP won't go to so they have every motivation to bend their own principles for the greater good.
I remember the good ol’ days when my ideological enemy was a Catholic conservative. Hopefully I can go back to rubbishing your opinions on 2021.
Maybe next time those people will vote. They got the politicians they deserved and now live with the consequences. Don’t get me wrong, I do have empathy for their plight, but I also feel bad for the forklift drivers at work that should have worked harder at school.
Ah, the old if some things aren't evidence then no things are evidence theory of evidence. It goes nicely with believe all women and white supremacy explains everything.Short Man Syndrome wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:04 pm “... the gratur gooood..”
Also: https://twitter.com/mi6rogue/status/132 ... 49952?s=21
I'm afraid you @realDonaldTrump fans who have fallen for the Hunter Email scandal are going to be disappointed the Emails scandal is a dead cat. Here are some of them showing a deal including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. #TrumpLiesAmericansDie
It's legit, millions went to H and 10% went to the Big Guy. wink winkSanta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:49 pmAh, the old if some things aren't evidence then no things are evidence theory of evidence. It goes nicely with believe all women and white supremacy explains everything.Short Man Syndrome wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:04 pm “... the gratur gooood..”
Also: https://twitter.com/mi6rogue/status/132 ... 49952?s=21
I'm afraid you @realDonaldTrump fans who have fallen for the Hunter Email scandal are going to be disappointed the Emails scandal is a dead cat. Here are some of them showing a deal including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. #TrumpLiesAmericansDie![]()
Yeah, the hate for Hilary by some Dems and neutrals was ridiculous. Here was a person who spent her life fighting for social justice and the values they claim to share and the abandoned her for a conman.towny wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:44 pmMaybe next time those people will vote. They got the politicians they deserved and now live with the consequences. Don’t get me wrong, I do have empathy for their plight, but I also feel bad for the forklift drivers at work that should have worked harder at school.
Americans made their bed. It’s not up to a judge to save them from themselves. She is going to do what a Clinton judge would never have done.
Ah, the old ‘Santa being a dull twat and a poundshop Sneaker wannabe Nazi’ trick. Oldest trick in the book, that.Santa wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:49 pmAh, the old if some things aren't evidence then no things are evidence theory of evidence. It goes nicely with believe all women and white supremacy explains everything.Short Man Syndrome wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:04 pm “... the gratur gooood..”
Also: https://twitter.com/mi6rogue/status/132 ... 49952?s=21
I'm afraid you @realDonaldTrump fans who have fallen for the Hunter Email scandal are going to be disappointed the Emails scandal is a dead cat. Here are some of them showing a deal including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. #TrumpLiesAmericansDie![]()
The one where he questions Thomas on the subject of Natural Law? How, er... sleazy...? Slimy...?mightyreds wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:55 pmSorry, I should have added, 'See the tweet on Justice Thomas', before the first link.mightyreds wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:51 pmExactly, Mick Mannock, it beggars belief that anyone could consign their country into the hands of this sleazy, slimy character:Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:59 pm I am saddened by how many of you actually believe Biden is an upgrade on Trump. It is as if you willfully ignore his history of racism, hypocrisy, and now his corruption, and enablement of his son's deviancy, and criminal behaviour.
You are stupid people.
Biden may well win. It will be a disaster for the US if he does.
https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/10/08/i ... t-of-2020/
Correction: sleazy, slimy, senile character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyV_j1aH_cc
"How did we get to this SCOTUS pick?" is a very different question to "What's wrong with this SCOTUS pick?", and I was answering the 2nd one.towny wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:44 pmMaybe next time those people will vote. They got the politicians they deserved and now live with the consequences. Don’t get me wrong, I do have empathy for their plight, but I also feel bad for the forklift drivers at work that should have worked harder at school.
Americans made their bed. It’s not up to a judge to save them from themselves. She is going to do what a Clinton judge would never have done.
Click on this link from a troll -> www.nothingyoudbeinterestedin.potentiallydangerous.scamSanta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:26 pm Oh Jesus you have to see the new Lincoln Project ad. I'll find a link.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321107677368430593
Exactly. It was a Reagan appointee that essentially ensured gay marriage by judicial fiat after all.
My hope is that they laughed cynically the whole time they were putting that together. My fear is that they didn't.Santa wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:26 pm Oh Jesus you have to see the new Lincoln Project ad. I'll find a link.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321107677368430593
Santa wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:26 pm Oh Jesus you have to see the new Lincoln Project ad. I'll find a link.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321107677368430593