POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

[redderneck]

If Trump were offered immunity now in exchange for walking away, he'd take it.

[Ulsters Red Hand]

So is Trump winning the election or not?

Nah not for ages. The fact they thought ridey Hunter would make a difference is pretty pathetic

Didn't they say he wouldn't win against Hilary?

[puku]

Good article here on the disingenuousness of lauding empathy as a leadership trait. Please stop doing it lefties. It reveals you as frauds and charlatans.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/neurosci ... 17222/amp/

disingenuity

Disingenuousness/disingenuity is not even the right word to use there.

Summary: People don’t tend to like those who show empathy to morally questionable individuals.

I don't think Santa even read that far

[Mick Mannock]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

[towny]

So is Trump winning the election or not?

Nah not for ages. The fact they thought ridey Hunter would make a difference is pretty pathetic

Didn't they say he wouldn't win against Hilary?

Who's they?
I follow 538 - they gave him a 30% chance against Hillary. The polls were right tbf - she won the popular vote by 3 million votes. The electoral college is harder to pic as state polls are less frequent and have smaller numbers.

Plus, the NYT ran with more front page stories about the FBI re-opening the investigation into Clinton's emails, which turned out to be nothing in 6 Days of the final week Before the election, than they did on policy differences between the candidates in the last 4 months Before the election.

They also led the charge with the false info justifying the Iraq invasion fwiw. Good paper, that.

[towny]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

[AND-y]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

Shocking that McNarcissist sees people as things.

[Mick Mannock]

Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million. 4 million of which was California - an outlier of freaks.

[AND-y]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

Shocking that McNarcissist sees people as things.

[Mick Mannock]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

I simply said I have done better - IMO. Then again, I am attracted to darker women.

[towny]

Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million. 4 million of which was California - an outlier of freaks.

The freaks liked her? I bet she must have carved up in Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama. Amirite???

[Whatever]

I see US early voting has passed overall turnout from 2016. He is definitely going to go for a voter fraud angle and delay this for months

...by which stage 1-200,000 more people will have died. They need to drag his fat arse out of the WH asap to save lives.

Bolton reckons he won't go gracefully. Assuming he loses, you have to feel this nutjob has one last drama, one massive hissy-fit, to go out on. Can't wait to see what that is. I have a vision of he and Melania locked in a bunker together while agents storm the building.

[towny]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

I simply said I have done better - IMO. Then again, I am attracted to darker women.

I bet they all look like Beyonce too, right? I Picture you as a mixture of Jon Hamm and Bruce Banner. But cooler.

[CrazyIslander]

If Trump were offered immunity now in exchange for walking away, he'd take it.

That's what they do for dictators. Usually exiled somewhere with a small fortune. Saves the country from civil war.

[Mick Mannock]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

I simply said I have done better - IMO. Then again, I am attracted to darker women.

I bet they all look like Beyonce too, right? I Picture you as a mixture of Jon Hamm and Bruce Banner. But cooler.

They do not have to look like Beyonce to be more attractive than AOC. IMO.

I don't know who either of those men are.

[Whatever]

Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million. 4 million of which was California - an outlier of freaks.

"3 million...4 million of which"... Are you sure about that?

[towny]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

I simply said I have done better - IMO. Then again, I am attracted to darker women.

I bet they all look like Beyonce too, right? I Picture you as a mixture of Jon Hamm and Bruce Banner. But cooler.

They do not have to look like Beyonce to be more attractive than AOC. IMO.

I don't know who either of those men are.

But still - I am betting you could regularly pull Girls in the Beyonce league. That's your arena. That's the level you're at.

[Santa]

Vote Biden

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/s ... ssion=true

Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary of the Treasury should Biden win the election, multiple sources have confirmed to the Prospect.

Raimondo, in her second term as governor, dazzled Biden’s campaign in interviews to become his vice president back in June. A former venture capitalist who took the governor’s mansion on the strength of millions of dollars in Wall Street donations, Raimondo’s name will stir the long memories of union leaders. They have held a grudge with her for years over her tenure as state treasurer, when she cut pension benefits for public employees, while steering over $1 billion in state money to hedge fund investments.

He's getting the band back together.

[EverReady]

So is Trump winning the election or not?

Nah not for ages. The fact they thought ridey Hunter would make a difference is pretty pathetic

Didn't they say he wouldn't win against Hilary?

Some did. Some didn't. Most do. Most doesn't.

[EverReady]

Vote Biden

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/s ... ssion=true

Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary of the Treasury should Biden win the election, multiple sources have confirmed to the Prospect.

Raimondo, in her second term as governor, dazzled Biden’s campaign in interviews to become his vice president back in June. A former venture capitalist who took the governor’s mansion on the strength of millions of dollars in Wall Street donations, Raimondo’s name will stir the long memories of union leaders. They have held a grudge with her for years over her tenure as state treasurer, when she cut pension benefits for public employees, while steering over $1 billion in state money to hedge fund investments.

He's getting the band back together.

Sounds legit

[Anonymous 1]

If Trump were offered immunity now in exchange for walking away, he'd take it.

No way. He is not walking away from all that power. He believes in Trump and to be fair to him he has been able to sell the American public shit for so many years he has every right to believe he will prevail.

[fonzeee]

No, what you are doing is pretending that a fictional and purely binary choice is exactly the same as a non-fictional, non-binary choice in order to reach a conclusion about my position that is entirely at odds with my actual stated position.

In a non-hypothetical, non-binary situation (such as an election) there is the option to not vote. Most people took that option in 2016, for example. As I stated, in the hypothetical situation offered that would have been my option because voting FOR a narcissistic sociopath is not an option. You have somehow, bizarrely, taken that to mean I would have voted for Trump if I agreed with his policies.

This is not just a stretch, it is actually the opposite of my stated position.

Fine, I shouldn't have said vote -- at least without first establishing that you'd have to take voting as a non-negotiable duty. Considering a majority of eligible voters actually showed up for the embarrassment of 2016, it stands to reason that a lot of people probably adhere to this view.

But my overall point was not so much what you'd have done, as it was that, in the choice between decent-chap-I-disagree-with and maniacal-asshole-I-agree-with, even you'd prefer to have the guy you agree with. In other words, the cuntiness is ultimately a secondary concern.

Considering how many seem to consider Trumpian cuntiness to be categorically disqualifying, and often say things like "omg how coud anyone vote for him, even conservatives", I thought that your post showed how it could happen, and how people really make a decision in decent-chap-I-disagree-with vs. maniacal-asshole-I-agree-with. If, yes, they insist on voting and don't want to blow their vote on a third party.

[puku]

Vote Biden

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/s ... ssion=true

Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary of the Treasury should Biden win the election, multiple sources have confirmed to the Prospect.

Raimondo, in her second term as governor, dazzled Biden’s campaign in interviews to become his vice president back in June. A former venture capitalist who took the governor’s mansion on the strength of millions of dollars in Wall Street donations, Raimondo’s name will stir the long memories of union leaders. They have held a grudge with her for years over her tenure as state treasurer, when she cut pension benefits for public employees, while steering over $1 billion in state money to hedge fund investments.

He's getting the band back together.

Wait...I thought Trump said a Biden presidency would pursue a socialist agenda or worse. I've seen the ads so it must be true.

Gina seems only a little left of Mnuchin and without the corrupt past.

[TheFrog]

Vote Biden

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/s ... ssion=true

Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary of the Treasury should Biden win the election, multiple sources have confirmed to the Prospect.

Raimondo, in her second term as governor, dazzled Biden’s campaign in interviews to become his vice president back in June. A former venture capitalist who took the governor’s mansion on the strength of millions of dollars in Wall Street donations, Raimondo’s name will stir the long memories of union leaders. They have held a grudge with her for years over her tenure as state treasurer, when she cut pension benefits for public employees, while steering over $1 billion in state money to hedge fund investments.

He's getting the band back together.

OMG!!! Biden is building a socialist administration!

[Mick Mannock]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

I simply said I have done better - IMO. Then again, I am attracted to darker women.

I bet they all look like Beyonce too, right? I Picture you as a mixture of Jon Hamm and Bruce Banner. But cooler.

Spectacular?

[fonzeee]

Spoiler that shit Mick FFS

As I said before, she's a Latina 4.

[Mullet 2]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

I simply said I have done better - IMO. Then again, I am attracted to darker women.

So you fúcked Thatcher

[Santa]

Vote Biden

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/s ... ssion=true

Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary of the Treasury should Biden win the election, multiple sources have confirmed to the Prospect.

Raimondo, in her second term as governor, dazzled Biden’s campaign in interviews to become his vice president back in June. A former venture capitalist who took the governor’s mansion on the strength of millions of dollars in Wall Street donations, Raimondo’s name will stir the long memories of union leaders. They have held a grudge with her for years over her tenure as state treasurer, when she cut pension benefits for public employees, while steering over $1 billion in state money to hedge fund investments.

He's getting the band back together.

OMG!!! Biden is building a socialist administration!

See it's comments like that that tell me you and lots like you actually don't understand the current realignment. Broadly what we have are A) conservatives, B) liberals and C) the woke left.

The Democrats broadly span B and C. The Republicans have a bit of B but are mostly A. Biden is B but relies on C to get into power and is thus beholden to them in some significant ways. However there is a quiet civil war going on between B and C and we will see that spring to life within months of a Biden Presidency. So a choice of Raimondo would be a B move and would be opposed by the Cs. Biden is also going to have to have some Cs in his administration. So you see its not a contradiction to say that Biden will do B but also be susceptible to C. It's actually quite basic.

[fonzeee]

Latina 6:

[iarmhiman]

The inability to score anything better than AOC explains the derangement of some of the guys on here.

Well, I think she's spectacular. I can only stand in awe of the women you must have nailed if you think she's not much.

Good for you, big man.

I simply said I have done better - IMO. Then again, I am attracted to darker women.

So you fúcked Thatcher

Diane Abbott would be Mick's type

[Santa]

I am sensing some variation in group level attractiveness distributions going on here.

[Fat Old Git]

Also hope we see more of AOC.

Smart, passionate and hot like the sun. She is ridiculous. I’m not even sure what she’s saying half the time....

I wish she would shut up tbh. She might be passionate and true to her supporters but she's the type that would irritate neutrals.

F*ck the neutrals.

[Mick Mannock]

Spoiler that shit Mick FFS

As I said before, she's a Latina 4.

That high?

[TheFrog]

Vote Biden

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/s ... ssion=true

Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary of the Treasury should Biden win the election, multiple sources have confirmed to the Prospect.

Raimondo, in her second term as governor, dazzled Biden’s campaign in interviews to become his vice president back in June. A former venture capitalist who took the governor’s mansion on the strength of millions of dollars in Wall Street donations, Raimondo’s name will stir the long memories of union leaders. They have held a grudge with her for years over her tenure as state treasurer, when she cut pension benefits for public employees, while steering over $1 billion in state money to hedge fund investments.

He's getting the band back together.

OMG!!! Biden is building a socialist administration!

See it's comments like that that tell me you and lots like you actually don't understand the current realignment. Broadly what we have are A) conservatives, B) liberals and C) the woke left.

The Democrats broadly span B and C. The Republicans have a bit of B but are mostly A. Biden is B but relies on C to get into power and is thus beholden to them in some significant ways. However there is a quiet civil war going on between B and C and we will see that spring to life within months of a Biden Presidency. So a choice of Raimondo would be a B move and would be opposed by the Cs. Biden is also going to have to have some Cs in his administration. So you see its not a contradiction to say that Biden will do B but also be susceptible to C. It's actually quite basic.

Two things. Where do you position Trump in your analysis of American politics?

Second, do you truly believe Biden will be able to make America a socialist country if he kicks off his presidency with this type of appointment? (May I remind you that this has been a recurrent team of the Trump campaign and his faithful supporters here, that voting Biden is voting for a socialist America).

[BokJock]

Vote Biden

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/s ... ssion=true

Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary of the Treasury should Biden win the election, multiple sources have confirmed to the Prospect.

Raimondo, in her second term as governor, dazzled Biden’s campaign in interviews to become his vice president back in June. A former venture capitalist who took the governor’s mansion on the strength of millions of dollars in Wall Street donations, Raimondo’s name will stir the long memories of union leaders. They have held a grudge with her for years over her tenure as state treasurer, when she cut pension benefits for public employees, while steering over $1 billion in state money to hedge fund investments.

He's getting the band back together.

OMG!!! Biden is building a socialist administration!

See it's comments like that that tell me you and lots like you actually don't understand the current realignment. Broadly what we have are A) conservatives, B) liberals and C) the woke left.

The Democrats broadly span B and C. The Republicans have a bit of B but are mostly A. Biden is B but relies on C to get into power and is thus beholden to them in some significant ways. However there is a quiet civil war going on between B and C and we will see that spring to life within months of a Biden Presidency. So a choice of Raimondo would be a B move and would be opposed by the Cs. Biden is also going to have to have some Cs in his administration. So you see its not a contradiction to say that Biden will do B but also be susceptible to C. It's actually quite basic.

And will lead to the destruction of the suburbs and the end of the American way of life?

Doesn't sound very neo-Maoist to me

[fonzeee]

Did someone really say AOC was smart?



She's an economics major that doesn't understand how the unemployment rate is calculated, with the middling intelligence of your typical American undergrad. Except most of them have the decency to be getting hammered every weekend at a frat house rather than sitting in the US Congress.

Half the reason she gets so much airtime is because Fox knows every time she opens her mouth she'll say something totally idiotic that will offer their viewers the rare opportunity to point and laugh at the other side's stupidity.

[Santa]

Vote Biden

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/s ... ssion=true

Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary of the Treasury should Biden win the election, multiple sources have confirmed to the Prospect.

Raimondo, in her second term as governor, dazzled Biden’s campaign in interviews to become his vice president back in June. A former venture capitalist who took the governor’s mansion on the strength of millions of dollars in Wall Street donations, Raimondo’s name will stir the long memories of union leaders. They have held a grudge with her for years over her tenure as state treasurer, when she cut pension benefits for public employees, while steering over $1 billion in state money to hedge fund investments.

He's getting the band back together.

OMG!!! Biden is building a socialist administration!

See it's comments like that that tell me you and lots like you actually don't understand the current realignment. Broadly what we have are A) conservatives, B) liberals and C) the woke left.

The Democrats broadly span B and C. The Republicans have a bit of B but are mostly A. Biden is B but relies on C to get into power and is thus beholden to them in some significant ways. However there is a quiet civil war going on between B and C and we will see that spring to life within months of a Biden Presidency. So a choice of Raimondo would be a B move and would be opposed by the Cs. Biden is also going to have to have some Cs in his administration. So you see its not a contradiction to say that Biden will do B but also be susceptible to C. It's actually quite basic.

Two things. Where do you position Trump in your analysis of American politics?

Second, do you truly believe Biden will be able to make America a socialist country if he kicks off his presidency with this type of appointment? (May I remind you that this has been a recurrent team of the Trump campaign and his faithful supporters here, that voting Biden is voting for a socialist America).

Biden is a weak leader. He's only a figurehead. Most of the people who got him into power are Cs or Bs that have cynically used Cs or C ideology to gain or maintain their own power. Harris is one of those people (a B using Cs if not an actual C). Given Biden's fragility Harris is very close to the throne.

So the C impact will either be a direct assumption of power over Biden's slowly cooling corpse, or an indirect one through all the deals he has to do.

What the Bs don't get is that once the As have been sidelined the Cs are coming for them.

[puku]

Biden is a weak leader. He's only a figurehead. Most of the people who got him into power are Cs or Bs that have cynically used Cs or C ideology to gain or maintain their own power. Harris is one of those people (a B using Cs if not an actual C). Given Biden's fragility Harris is very close to the throne.

So the C impact will either be a direct assumption of power over Biden's slowly cooling corpse, or an indirect one through all the deals he has to do.

What the Bs don't get is that once the As have been sidelined the Cs are coming for them.

Laughable thesis bro.

The part I bolded caught my eye though. Care to explain how Harris got Biden into power? Surely it's the other way around.

[BokJock]

What do you mean by "coming for them"?

What are the woke left going to do?

[puku]

What do you mean by "coming for them"?

What are the woke left going to do?

Santa sees reds under his bed. So 1950s.