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I was surprised how polite it all was. British parliamentary debate just means shouting at each other as loudly as possible while some private school fag shouts 'order'.
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towny wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pm These fascists certainly knew their way around the Capitol Building. Maybe the woman in this clip was the electrician that wired the place or something..... 😳

https://twitter.com/kristinminkdc/statu ... 26208?s=21
The guy stealing the hard disk at around 1:52-1:55 as well :shock:
He was acting calmly and knew what he was doing. Some people in this had a plan and were not just wound up protesters.
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TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 pm
towny wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pm These fascists certainly knew their way around the Capitol Building. Maybe the woman in this clip was the electrician that wired the place or something..... 😳

https://twitter.com/kristinminkdc/statu ... 26208?s=21
The guy stealing the hard disk at around 1:52-1:55 as well :shock:
He was acting calmly and knew what he was doing. Some people in this had a plan and were not just wound up protesters.
If you were a foreign intelligence service it'd've been a great time to have some of your agents infiltrate the crowd and walk into the Capitol building to steal some info and assets, then get them out of the country immediately.
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The Republicans will have been briefed about the level or organisation and all of this background stuff. As I heard today on the telly they are shitting themselves that they are going to get shot and shit like that. America might need a schmozzle to clear the air
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TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 pm
towny wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pm These fascists certainly knew their way around the Capitol Building. Maybe the woman in this clip was the electrician that wired the place or something..... 😳

https://twitter.com/kristinminkdc/statu ... 26208?s=21
The guy stealing the hard disk at around 1:52-1:55 as well :shock:
He was acting calmly and knew what he was doing. Some people in this had a plan and were not just wound up protesters.
One on the senior reps said that his unmarked office, where he normally works, was ransacked while his marked office wasn't. There seemed to have been a lot of inside information
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:01 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 pm
towny wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pm These fascists certainly knew their way around the Capitol Building. Maybe the woman in this clip was the electrician that wired the place or something..... 😳

https://twitter.com/kristinminkdc/statu ... 26208?s=21
The guy stealing the hard disk at around 1:52-1:55 as well :shock:
He was acting calmly and knew what he was doing. Some people in this had a plan and were not just wound up protesters.
If you were a foreign intelligence service it'd've been a great time to have some of your agents infiltrate the crowd and walk into the Capitol building to steal some info and assets, then get them out of the country immediately.
Who could possibly have known that would happen bar every cünt with a Parler account.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:56 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:51 pm
Whatever wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:48 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:30 pm
Mr. Very Popular wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:21 pm Florida man being Florida man, how much did they get paid to defend Trump?
I listened to C-Span live for 15min and couldn't take more. x(

The amount of lies, bad faith etc... No wonder Americans are pissed with their politicians. I thought French politicians were bad, but this is a whole new standard. Lying is a full time job here.
Yep. Not confined to politicians either. It's like dealing with children.
The other fascinating thing in play is that there is no debate really. Each are taking turn to speak to their own public, but there is no actual exchange of arguments, counter-arguments etc...
We've never done debate as it's done in say the UK Parliament. I had a question once asking when it changed from proper debate to talking past one another like they do now, and no one really knew, but it's been this way probably since the very long time Democrats had majority control of the House from 1955-1995.
Thanks FR, :thumbup:

While I don't share your political sensitivities, I appreciate your taking the time to instruct us.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:01 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 pm
towny wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pm These fascists certainly knew their way around the Capitol Building. Maybe the woman in this clip was the electrician that wired the place or something..... 😳

https://twitter.com/kristinminkdc/statu ... 26208?s=21
The guy stealing the hard disk at around 1:52-1:55 as well :shock:
He was acting calmly and knew what he was doing. Some people in this had a plan and were not just wound up protesters.
If you were a foreign intelligence service it'd've been a great time to have some of your agents infiltrate the crowd and walk into the Capitol building to steal some info and assets, then get them out of the country immediately.
Yes, for sure. Yet, you would have to expect that the crowd was going to break into the Capitol before investing and risking assets in such a mission...
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https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1349445165900050433
*Feds upgrade charges against Richard “Bigo” Barnett, who was photographed making himself comfy in Speaker Pelosi’s office.
*He’s now accused of being armed with a stun gun.
*That raises his potential sentence to up to 11 years in Federal prison.
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Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:02 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 pm
towny wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pm These fascists certainly knew their way around the Capitol Building. Maybe the woman in this clip was the electrician that wired the place or something..... 😳

https://twitter.com/kristinminkdc/statu ... 26208?s=21
The guy stealing the hard disk at around 1:52-1:55 as well :shock:
He was acting calmly and knew what he was doing. Some people in this had a plan and were not just wound up protesters.
One on the senior reps said that his unmarked office, where he normally works, was ransacked while his marked office wasn't. There seemed to have been a lot of inside information
Question is. Was this foreign intelligence services in action, or American underground organizations?
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Seems that this time they are taking the threat a bit more seriously than last time at least...

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TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:08 pm Seems that this time they are taking the threat a bit more seriously than last time at least...

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15k National Guard instead of the 20 Capitol Police they had last time
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TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:06 pm
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:02 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 pm
towny wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pm These fascists certainly knew their way around the Capitol Building. Maybe the woman in this clip was the electrician that wired the place or something..... 😳

https://twitter.com/kristinminkdc/statu ... 26208?s=21
The guy stealing the hard disk at around 1:52-1:55 as well :shock:
He was acting calmly and knew what he was doing. Some people in this had a plan and were not just wound up protesters.
One on the senior reps said that his unmarked office, where he normally works, was ransacked while his marked office wasn't. There seemed to have been a lot of inside information
Question is. Was this foreign intelligence services in action, or American underground organizations?
I think at best it was something going on they had assets help encourage and took advantage of it happening. But as far as organize? Too risky. If something like that came out, that would be sufficient grounds for declaration of war in my opinion.

Heck though, if I was Putin, I would've asked "did we have men on the ground? If not, why not?" A few stolen laptops even of congressmen, get them out of the country immediately, law enforcement would be too slow to react to stop getting on a flight to Europe, and you can easily get a few hackers on that hard drive.
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Floppykid wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:06 pm https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1349445165900050433
*Feds upgrade charges against Richard “Bigo” Barnett, who was photographed making himself comfy in Speaker Pelosi’s office.
*He’s now accused of being armed with a stun gun.
*That raises his potential sentence to up to 11 years in Federal prison.
He should’ve brought his real gun, then he’d be free and clear.
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Heck though, if I was Putin, I would've asked "did we have men on the ground? If not, why not?" A few stolen laptops even of congressmen, get them out of the country immediately, law enforcement would be too slow to react to stop getting on a flight to Europe, and you can easily get a few hackers on that hard drive.
I saw one tweet with pics of a guy, who they named as a Russian operative, in a hoody, in the Capitol. I’d say like you say, once it was clear there might be some rumble around the building, any spy worth his salt would have been either in the vicinity, or going somewhere else sensitive that he could sneak into during the distraction.
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Sarah Groh, chief of staff to "Squad" member Rep. Ayanna Pressley, tells the Boston Globe that when she hid from the howling mob, she discovered that “every panic button in my office had been torn out.”

Sure hoping for an innocent explanation for this.
https://twitter.com/HelenKennedy/status ... 5754394624
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Vote coming soon. Hoyer (House Majority Leader) now talking.
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Spotted this on one of the twitter feeds above - Nancy Pelosi and JFK

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Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:37 pm Spotted this on one of the twitter feeds above - Nancy Pelosi and JFK

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Maybe she was his girl that evening.
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Did cross my mind tbh.
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Boboe the clown banned from twitter.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:36 pm Vote coming soon. Hoyer (House Majority Leader) now talking.

And still talking, this is a hell of a long minute.
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Would be a nice memory for her. She is older than I had thought
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EverReady wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:45 pm Would be a nice memory for her. She is older than I had thought
Yup, 80.
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Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:10 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:08 pm Seems that this time they are taking the threat a bit more seriously than last time at least...

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15k National Guard instead of the 20 Capitol Police they had last time
Instead of or on top of?
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TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:47 pm
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:10 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:08 pm Seems that this time they are taking the threat a bit more seriously than last time at least...

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15k National Guard instead of the 20 Capitol Police they had last time
Instead of or on top of?
15020 then
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"soon the clerk will call the roll"

After I finish my one minute
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4071 wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:26 pm Always a tweet...

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He really doesn't understand ironing :lol:
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I thought the GOP would try and filibuster it.

I'd hate to be at a wedding with this lad giving a speech.
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Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:57 pm
Flyin Ryan wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:48 pm
She does not play outside of a certain section of big city areas at all. It's why conservatives constantly highlight her. If you think I can go even nextdoor to the sorta big city of 250k, and think the Democrats there will vote for her in a fraction larger than 10%, you're clueless, to say nothing of the minimal share of vote she'd get from rural Democrats. Throw on top of it she's never defended her views against other Democrats. There is not enough votes where her policies would be popular to win nationally, even in a Democratic primary.
She "played" to large audiences in the Midwest with Bernie Sanders during the primaries, including primaries he won against Biden

However, her biggest problem will be the "socialist" tag, which she fully admits
Americans really do need to grow up when it comes to the S word. I don;t think she'll run in 2024 but by 2028? I think we keep forgetting how young she is for the position she's in.
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Mr. Very Popular wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:52 pm I thought the GOP would try and filibuster it.

I'd hate to be at a wedding with this lad giving a speech.
No filibuster in the house. You get your time and sit down and shut up.
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DOB wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:53 pm
Mr. Very Popular wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:52 pm I thought the GOP would try and filibuster it.

I'd hate to be at a wedding with this lad giving a speech.
No filibuster in the house. You get your time and sit down and shut up.
Except the last guy. I thought he was trying to filibuster his own side
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DOB wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:53 pm
Mr. Very Popular wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:52 pm I thought the GOP would try and filibuster it.

I'd hate to be at a wedding with this lad giving a speech.
No filibuster in the house. You get your time and sit down and shut up.
Did you see the last guy? 1 minute :lol: :lol:
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Can't see america electing a socialist ever. She's a child in an adult's body.
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BokJock wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:35 pm
Floppykid wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:57 pm Louie Gohmert disgracing himself.
He must seriously be the dumbest person to ever hold a democratically elected seat
Dumber than Trump?

Big call.
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Voting started. C-SPAN's disembodied narrator says they expect at least 7 Republicans to vote yes.

Right now the live vote is 91-83 in favor with 4 Republicans voting yea. There's a bunch of congressmen that are voting proxy through other members they're going through.
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flaggETERNAL wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:53 pm
Americans really do need to grow up when it comes to the S word. I don;t think she'll run in 2024 but by 2028? I think we keep forgetting how young she is for the position she's in.
I watched a speech she gave on climate change in 2019 in Denmark at the C40 World Mayors Conference. Considering she was a bartender two years ago her stage presence was just astonishing
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Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:48 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:47 pm
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:10 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:08 pm Seems that this time they are taking the threat a bit more seriously than last time at least...

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15k National Guard instead of the 20 Capitol Police they had last time
Instead of or on top of?
15020 then
Believe it or not, there are 2,000 members of the US Capitol Police

2,000 people...to protect something the size of a high school campus

Where were they, on the day, eh? Eh?

/QAnon
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Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:00 pm
flaggETERNAL wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:53 pm
Americans really do need to grow up when it comes to the S word. I don;t think she'll run in 2024 but by 2028? I think we keep forgetting how young she is for the position she's in.
I watched a speech she gave on climate change in 2019 in Denmark at the C40 World Mayors Conference. Considering she was a bartender two years ago her stage presence was just astonishing
Yep. She's naive and she's already had her share of stupid statements BUT she's also young and I think she'll mature and become even more formidable.
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shanky wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:03 pm
Believe it or not, there are 2,000 members of the US Capitol Police

2,000 people...to protect something the size of a high school campus

Where were they, on the day, eh? Eh?

/QAnon
It really didn't look like there were 2000 Capitol cops at the start
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