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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:17 pm
by Gavin Duffy
Floppykid wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:16 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:12 pm 6.9.
6.98
Final offer, in the the spirit of this thread and its goal of "bipartisan civility".
It's a time to heal.
*spits on hand* - deal.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:17 pm
by Sefton

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:21 pm
by Jensrsa
Well. This post election series was fun and entertaining. (didn't watch the pre-election series)

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:24 pm
by Jensrsa
Interesting

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:35 pm
by TheFrog
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:26 pm Can't see support for a generic 'green new deal' translating into a credible bid for the presidency.
As I see it the GND is a vision. Practically it will have to be implemented piece by piece. Any idea to implement it all at once is foolish. But it gives a blueprint of where one wants to go, what one wants to achieve asap
The simple fact that she is debated on here is testimony of her prominent position already among Dems.

Question now is whether she'll manage to build on this good start.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:36 pm
by Gavin Duffy
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:35 pm
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:26 pm Can't see support for a generic 'green new deal' translating into a credible bid for the presidency.
As I see it the GND is a vision. Practically it will have to be implemented piece by piece. Any idea to implement it all at once is foolish. But it gives a blueprint of where one wants to go, what one wants to achieve asap
The simple fact that she is debated on here is testimony of her prominent position already among Dems.

Question now is whether she'll manage to build on this good start.
She's Bernie 2.0 at the very best.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:37 pm
by Jensrsa
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:35 pm
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:26 pm Can't see support for a generic 'green new deal' translating into a credible bid for the presidency.
As I see it the GND is a vision. Practically it will have to be implemented piece by piece. Any idea to implement it all at once is foolish. But it gives a blueprint of where one wants to go, what one wants to achieve asap
The simple fact that she is debated on here is testimony of her prominent position already among Dems.

Question now is whether she'll manage to build on this good start.
That's it

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:41 pm
by Sawtooth the Beaver
Post by merry! » 13 Jan 2021 21:15

towny wrote: ↑13 Jan 2021 19:10
These fascists certainly knew their way around the Capitol Building. Maybe the woman in this clip was the electrician that wired the place or something..... 😳

https://twitter.com/kristinminkdc/statu ... 26208?s=21
:lol:

fascists? you're such a child.
Fat tourists it is then.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:43 pm
by TheFrog
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:36 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:35 pm
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:26 pm Can't see support for a generic 'green new deal' translating into a credible bid for the presidency.
As I see it the GND is a vision. Practically it will have to be implemented piece by piece. Any idea to implement it all at once is foolish. But it gives a blueprint of where one wants to go, what one wants to achieve asap
The simple fact that she is debated on here is testimony of her prominent position already among Dems.

Question now is whether she'll manage to build on this good start.
She's Bernie 2.0 at the very best.
3.1? And we have a deal?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:44 pm
by TheFrog
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:37 pm
TheFrog wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:35 pm
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:26 pm Can't see support for a generic 'green new deal' translating into a credible bid for the presidency.
As I see it the GND is a vision. Practically it will have to be implemented piece by piece. Any idea to implement it all at once is foolish. But it gives a blueprint of where one wants to go, what one wants to achieve asap
The simple fact that she is debated on here is testimony of her prominent position already among Dems.

Question now is whether she'll manage to build on this good start.
That's it
If she wanted to be elected in Italy, I would suggest she'd for photos + interview on Playboy, but I am not sure the American public would respond that enthusiastically.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:48 pm
by shanky
I read somewhere that the Parler people were complaining that they didn't have the resources to moderate their users and therefore, this was all very unreasonable.

There was this incredulous statement along the lines of, "Whoa! Wait, they're expecting us to have the same capability and standards that Twitter and Facebook do?"

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:54 pm
by Floppykid
shanky wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:48 pm
I read somewhere that the Parler people were complaining that they didn't have the resources to moderate their users and therefore, this was all very unreasonable.

There was this incredulous statement along the lines of, "Whoa! Wait, they're expecting us to have the same capability and standards that Twitter and Facebook do?"
Well then they shouldn't host that level of people. Pretty easy to bat back.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:00 am
by EverReady
Here this is where they hang out as well. They are everything you would expect https://thedonald.win/p/11S0SM7V8a/fals ... -motovs/c/

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:14 am
by dam0
While by the constitution a president must be 35 years old, the reality is that practically speaking a candidate has to morel like 45 to be taken seriously as a candidate. It's also hard to imagine someone from the house of representatives running.

AOC won't have a viable ring at the presidency until at least 2032, at which point she may have mellowed, or the electorate may have swung left. It's far to early to say she can or can't ever be president.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:16 am
by Floppykid

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:17 am
by Gavin Duffy
dam0 wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:14 am While by the constitution a president must be 35 years old, the reality is that practically speaking a candidate has to morel like 45 to be taken seriously as a candidate. It's also hard to imagine someone from the house of representatives running.

AOC won't have a viable ring at the presidency until at least 2032, at which point she may have mellowed, or the electorate may have swung left. It's far to early to say she can or can't ever be president.
The previous 240 years speaks against it tbf.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:24 am
by CrazyIslander
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:21 pm Well. This post election series was fun and entertaining. (didn't watch the pre-election series)
Who would've thought that post election would be more drama than pre election.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:25 am
by message #2527204
Floppykid wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:16 am Anyone watch this?
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1 ... 0578919425
Please give me back my twitter now?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:27 am
by EverReady
Floppykid wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:16 am Anyone watch this?
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1 ... 0578919425
Didn't bother. It's lovely not hearing his voice. This is what the olden days were like kids.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:28 am
by YOYO
Floppykid wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:16 am Anyone watch this?
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1 ... 0578919425
Yes, just did. Not one iota of his own thoughts in the scripted speech.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:29 am
by Harveys
shanky wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm To run for President you need donors

Can’t see the Sierra Club or Mothers for the O-zone coming up with any decent funding for a bid.
Couldn’t see that money coming from Tech?
As laughable as it seemed a few years back I’m not prepared to say it’s impossible in 8-12 years.
She just needs to repackage her socialist ideals and sell it to Americas as their own idea.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:34 am
by C69
Harveys wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:29 am
shanky wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm To run for President you need donors

Can’t see the Sierra Club or Mothers for the O-zone coming up with any decent funding for a bid.
Couldn’t see that money coming from Tech?
As laughable as it seemed a few years back I’m not prepared to say it’s impossible in 8-12 years.
She just needs to repackage her socialist ideals and sell it to Americas as their own idea.
They are not Socialist ideas by any defonition a European would use.
Perhaps the term Social Democratic would be a more appropriate term.
Anyway I hope she does well and does not sell out her left wing (by USA standards) opinions.
7.5 wb

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:35 am
by Harveys
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:02 pm
Floppykid wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:58 pm
Zakar wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:10 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:56 pm Can't see america electing a socialist ever. She's a child in an adult's body.
She's 5'3
Don't agree with that, she's an 8 at least.
GTFO, 6 maybe if you ignore the giant teeth.
An Australian 6 maybe but In Ireland she’s an easy 8.5/9 even after losing points for stupidity.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:37 am
by CrazyIslander
She won't make it. The Republicans will fiekd a Trumplite candidate from now on. The Democrats wont want to experiment again for a long time.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:38 am
by Ted.
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:24 pm
Interesting
Try the links to the evidence, but be warned that there is some strong language related to the N word, violence, rape, killing, etc. They are PDFs.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov ... 4.13.4.pdf

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov ... 4.13.5.pdf

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:38 am
by Gavin Duffy
Harveys wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:35 am
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:02 pm
Floppykid wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:58 pm
Zakar wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:10 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:56 pm Can't see america electing a socialist ever. She's a child in an adult's body.
She's 5'3
Don't agree with that, she's an 8 at least.
GTFO, 6 maybe if you ignore the giant teeth.
An Australian 6 maybe but In Ireland she’s an easy 8.5/9 even after losing points for stupidity.
Australian :uhoh: Whatever helps you get up in the morning I guess..

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:41 am
by Kiwias
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:25 am
Floppykid wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:16 am Anyone watch this?
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1 ... 0578919425
Please give me back my twitter now?
At 2'54", he says "I can not emphasise that there must be no violence....."
A Freudian omission?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:41 am
by Harveys
C69 wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:34 am
Harveys wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:29 am
shanky wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm To run for President you need donors

Can’t see the Sierra Club or Mothers for the O-zone coming up with any decent funding for a bid.
Couldn’t see that money coming from Tech?
As laughable as it seemed a few years back I’m not prepared to say it’s impossible in 8-12 years.
She just needs to repackage her socialist ideals and sell it to Americas as their own idea.
They are not Socialist ideas by any defonition a European would use.
Perhaps the term Social Democratic would be a more appropriate term.
Anyway I hope she does well and does not sell out her left wing (by USA standards) opinions.
7.5 wb
American definitions or prejudices are probable more relevant in an American election would you not agree?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:41 am
by Ali's Choice
Trump trying to gaslight the American people with his filmed statement today.

What incitement? What calls to violence?

And then making himself the victim of an "unprecedented attack on free speech".

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:45 am
by Ted.
EverReady wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:00 am Here this is where they hang out as well. They are everything you would expect https://thedonald.win/p/11S0SM7V8a/fals ... -motovs/c/
That is a festering pit of inequity if ever there was one.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:47 am
by DOB
Gavin Duffy wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:17 am
dam0 wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:14 am While by the constitution a president must be 35 years old, the reality is that practically speaking a candidate has to morel like 45 to be taken seriously as a candidate. It's also hard to imagine someone from the house of representatives running.

AOC won't have a viable ring at the presidency until at least 2032, at which point she may have mellowed, or the electorate may have swung left. It's far to early to say she can or can't ever be president.
The previous 240 years speaks against it tbf.
Teddy Roosevelt would've been to the left of the GND.

In fairness, he would've been a lot more hawkish in terms of Middle East policy, and would probably be wondering how a Spaniard, and a lady to boot, managed to infiltrate the Houses of Congress, but on policy towards workers and the environment he'd be right there with her.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:48 am
by EverReady
Ted. wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:38 am
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:24 pm
Interesting
Try the links to the evidence, but be warned that there is some strong language related to the N word, violence, rape, killing, etc. They are PDFs.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov ... 4.13.4.pdf

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov ... 4.13.5.pdf
I got the idea on page 20. The limited number of them

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:50 am
by Gavin Duffy
DOB wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:47 am
Gavin Duffy wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:17 am
dam0 wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:14 am While by the constitution a president must be 35 years old, the reality is that practically speaking a candidate has to morel like 45 to be taken seriously as a candidate. It's also hard to imagine someone from the house of representatives running.

AOC won't have a viable ring at the presidency until at least 2032, at which point she may have mellowed, or the electorate may have swung left. It's far to early to say she can or can't ever be president.
The previous 240 years speaks against it tbf.
Teddy Roosevelt would've been to the left of the GND.

In fairness, he would've been a lot more hawkish in terms of Middle East policy, and would probably be wondering how a Spaniard, and a lady to boot, managed to infiltrate the Houses of Congress, but on policy towards workers and the environment he'd be right there with her.
And it didn't work, took WW2 to get the economy rocking again.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:55 am
by merry!
Trump "has held over 600 rallies in the last 4 years & none of them included assaulting police, destroying businesses or burning down cities. Democrats have spent all this time endorsing & enabling violent riots that left billions in property damage & 47 dead."

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status ... 4878409728
:nod:

precedent set with this impeachment.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:57 am
by Kiwias
merry! wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:55 am
Trump "has held over 600 rallies in the last 4 years & none of them included assaulting police, destroying businesses or burning down cities. Democrats have spent all this time endorsing & enabling violent riots that left billions in property damage & 47 dead."

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status ... 4878409728
:nod:

precedent set with this impeachment.
Precedent set with president assembling his fans in Washington, firing them up with a fiery "stop the steal" speech, then pointing at the Capitol.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:58 am
by EverReady
merry! wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:55 am
Trump "has held over 600 rallies in the last 4 years & none of them included assaulting police, destroying businesses or burning down cities. Democrats have spent all this time endorsing & enabling violent riots that left billions in property damage & 47 dead."

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status ... 4878409728
:nod:

precedent set with this impeachment.
You saw what else she said. She is a bona fide fücking idiot with problems in her cortexual brain space

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:59 am
by ovalball
merry! wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:55 am
Trump "has held over 600 rallies in the last 4 years & none of them included assaulting police, destroying businesses or burning down cities. Democrats have spent all this time endorsing & enabling violent riots that left billions in property damage & 47 dead."

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status ... 4878409728
:nod:

precedent set with this impeachment.
Yep - the next time a President sends a violent group to the Capitol which then invades the seat of Government, you can expect another impeachment.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:13 am
by message #2527204
merry! wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:55 am
Trump "has held over 600 rallies in the last 4 years & none of them included assaulting police, destroying businesses or burning down cities. Democrats have spent all this time endorsing & enabling violent riots that left billions in property damage & 47 dead."

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status ... 4878409728
:nod:

precedent set with this impeachment.
That's some impressive whataboutery.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:16 am
by DOB
Gavin Duffy wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:50 am
DOB wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:47 am
Gavin Duffy wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:17 am
dam0 wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:14 am While by the constitution a president must be 35 years old, the reality is that practically speaking a candidate has to morel like 45 to be taken seriously as a candidate. It's also hard to imagine someone from the house of representatives running.

AOC won't have a viable ring at the presidency until at least 2032, at which point she may have mellowed, or the electorate may have swung left. It's far to early to say she can or can't ever be president.
The previous 240 years speaks against it tbf.
Teddy Roosevelt would've been to the left of the GND.

In fairness, he would've been a lot more hawkish in terms of Middle East policy, and would probably be wondering how a Spaniard, and a lady to boot, managed to infiltrate the Houses of Congress, but on policy towards workers and the environment he'd be right there with her.
And it didn't work, took WW2 to get the economy rocking again.
Wrong Roosevelt.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:18 am
by Gavin Duffy
EverReady wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:58 am
merry! wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:55 am
Trump "has held over 600 rallies in the last 4 years & none of them included assaulting police, destroying businesses or burning down cities. Democrats have spent all this time endorsing & enabling violent riots that left billions in property damage & 47 dead."

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status ... 4878409728
:nod:

precedent set with this impeachment.
You saw what else she said. She is a bona fide fücking idiot with problems in her cortexual brain space
And merry's a bone fide freak with a potentially very dark side. Steer clear I say.