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86% counted and still up by 1.4%.


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86% counted and still up by 1.4%.


700 votes in it


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CBS have 95% in and Lamb at 49.9%, Saccone at 49.4%
Lamb 101,979
Saccone 100,979


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Saint wrote:
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86% counted and still up by 1.4%.


700 votes in it

Got to hand it to Puku, read the momentum. Hannity just described the Repub as a weak candidate as he surged.


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Changed your mind about *likely to.win"?


Mea culpa.

Race is tighter than a duck's proverbial. Having said that, in a district that Trump took by 20% the result should be viewed as a referendum on the Orange One.


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I kid you not, on of the Trumpistas on my Facbeook says the constant sackings, firings and dismissals are a good thing. A sign that Trump is shaking things up. :shock: :lol: :lol:

This is what gets me. I'm sure the usual suspects on this thread will keep defending him.


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Anonymous. wrote:
flaggETERNAL wrote:
I kid you not, on of the Trumpistas on my Facbeook says the constant sackings, firings and dismissals are a good thing. A sign that Trump is shaking things up. :shock: :lol: :lol:

This is what gets me. I'm sure the usual suspects on this thread will keep defending him.


Ah you've got it wrong. Trump has no defenders on this here fred. Just neutrals, those just having a laugh, and the anti anti-Trumpers. Apparently.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:11 am 
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puku wrote:
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Changed your mind about *likely to.win"?


Mea culpa.

Race is tighter than a duck's proverbial. Having said that, in a district that Trump took by 20% the result should be viewed as a referendum on the Orange One.


CNN have Lamb in the lead by 847 votes. It's going to come down to absentee ballots which Saccone needs 63-64% of to make up the deficit.

Do absentees generally favour one party over the other?


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3208 remaining absentee ballots sent out (not returned).

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CNN says there are 3206 absentees outstanding in GOP counties. Saccone would need to win those by 20. He didn't on eday.

And Lamb won 62% of the Allegheny absentee vote. That's 5% higher than on Election Day. So it seems quite reasonable to make Lamb a clear favorite, assuming he can be expected to run ahead of his Election Day count by a similar margin elsewhere
But would still be soooo close

This district wont exist at next election. But it's bad for the GOP to lose a solidly R district regardless of the result.


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In a district Trump won by 20 points, where the GOP spent $10 million, IF they lose this...

Also, let's nbot forget why this election got called in the first place eh. GOP family values what?


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Anonymous. wrote:
flaggETERNAL wrote:
I kid you not, on of the Trumpistas on my Facbeook says the constant sackings, firings and dismissals are a good thing. A sign that Trump is shaking things up. :shock: :lol: :lol:

This is what gets me. I'm sure the usual suspects on this thread will keep defending him.

as per normal when there is nothing even remotely capable of being defended, they go quiet...very very quiet


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flaggETERNAL wrote:
I kid you not, on of the Trumpistas on my Facbeook says the constant sackings, firings and dismissals are a good thing. A sign that Trump is shaking things up. :shock: :lol: :lol:

This is what gets me. I'm sure the usual suspects on this thread will keep defending him.

as per normal when there is nothing even remotely capable of being defended, they go quiet...very very quiet


Careful, you'll get santa dropping a one liner on you.


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Just saw on the news that two other white house advisers have been sacked because they contradicted Trump's official line on why Tillerson was sacked. :lol:

The Kremlin would be quite proud of how this purge has gone.


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Just saw on the news that two other white house advisers have been sacked because they contradicted Trump's official line on why Tillerson was sacked. :lol:

The Kremlin would be quite proud of how this purge has gone.


Draining the swamp, man, draining the swamp.


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flaggETERNAL wrote:
In a district Trump won by 20 points, where the GOP spent $10 million, IF they lose this...

Also, let's nbot forget why this election got called in the first place eh. GOP family values what?


The mere fact that democrats are competitive here shows that tramp has made democrats realize the importance of voting in local elections including special elections. And also people realize that the so called tax cuts were a sham that mostly benefited super wealthy types.


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is that so?

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The rumour is that Stormy will be on 60 minutes this Sunday primed and ready to show and tell.

And on the PA-18 result, does mean that the so-called Trump political phenomenon can now be put down as nothing more that an emperor without clothes?


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PA-18 result is good for anyone against corporate PAC money.


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PA-18 result is good for anyone against corporate PAC money.

What do you think of the candidate if you don't mind me asking? From what I'm seeing he's not exactly a progressive and he was picked by conference.


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The rumour is that Stormy will be on 60 minutes this Sunday primed and ready to show and tell.

And on the PA-18 result, does mean that the so-called Trump political phenomenon can now be put down as nothing more that an emperor without clothes?

I don't think so. Regardless of the result, the fact that Trump got himself into the Whitehouse was a political achievement that defied all norms and I'd make the pitch that it was in itself both educational and the sign of a healthy political system. At the end of the day it has shown that people who buck the system can still get into positions of responsibility. While Trump isn't a resounding success there may be a time down the track when a leader who isn't a prisoner of the superpacs and lobbyists raises their head and makes a contribution. It has also been a lesson for democratic societies world-wide who all have the faults of complacency and apathy towards the voting system. And that's putting a negative slant on what was an extraordinary political feat by Trump... all the factors that lead to his success: his use of modern media, the tapping of an undercurrent in society that others ignored, his personal direct style, all deserve study and understanding.


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Bowens wrote:
PA-18 result is good for anyone against corporate PAC money.

What do you think of the candidate if you don't mind me asking? From what I'm seeing he's not exactly a progressive and he was picked by conference.


Lamb is alright. Much better than Cordray, the guy the Ohio Democratic Party is backing for gov vs Kucinich. He has like an A rating from the NRA. :?


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NY Post are having a bit of fun. :D

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Bowens wrote:
paddyor wrote:
Bowens wrote:
PA-18 result is good for anyone against corporate PAC money.

What do you think of the candidate if you don't mind me asking? From what I'm seeing he's not exactly a progressive and he was picked by conference.


Lamb is alright. Much better than Cordray, the guy the Ohio Democratic Party is backing for gov vs Kucinich. He has like an A rating from the NRA. :?

The thing a lot of bonkers neo-progressive Bernie Sanders types forget is not every candidate can be pure.
You're going to have to have candidates tailor made for races.


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Floppykid wrote:
Bowens wrote:
paddyor wrote:
Bowens wrote:
PA-18 result is good for anyone against corporate PAC money.

What do you think of the candidate if you don't mind me asking? From what I'm seeing he's not exactly a progressive and he was picked by conference.


Lamb is alright. Much better than Cordray, the guy the Ohio Democratic Party is backing for gov vs Kucinich. He has like an A rating from the NRA. :?

The thing a lot of bonkers neo-progressive Bernie Sanders types forget is not every candidate can be pure.
You're going to have to have candidates tailor made for races.


Well you will have the need for a Doug Jones every now and again but progressive candidates are running well across the country. They are having particular success in the Rust Belt and Appalachia, where much of the electorate would be more populist than particularly conservative or liberal.


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Anonymous. wrote:
flaggETERNAL wrote:
I kid you not, on of the Trumpistas on my Facbeook says the constant sackings, firings and dismissals are a good thing. A sign that Trump is shaking things up. :shock: :lol: :lol:

This is what gets me. I'm sure the usual suspects on this thread will keep defending him.


Ah you've got it wrong. Trump has no defenders on this here fred. Just neutrals, those just having a laugh, and the anti anti-Trumpers. Apparently.


I could kiss you that was so brilliant!


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:lol: :lol:
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Donald Jr and the wife are splitting up

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Vanessa told The New York Times in 2006 that Donald Trump had introduced her to his son at a fashion show twice within five minutes. The pair did not hit it off during the awkward interactions.

Six weeks later, they met again at a mutual friend's party. They didn't recognize each other until after an hour-long conversation.

"Then suddenly, something clicked: Wait, you were at that fashion show. Wait, you're 'the one with the retarded dad!' Vanessa blurted out," The Times reported.


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Sopranos on here ?


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That chandelier behind Eric's head...the photographer was taking the proverbial.
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It's not just Eric...


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The lass second from the left is one of those “realistic” sex robots?


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The lass second from the left is one of those “realistic” sex robots?


Both of them surely.


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Has Don Jr's hairstyle gotten better or worse?


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The rumour is that Stormy will be on 60 minutes this Sunday primed and ready to show and tell.

And on the PA-18 result, does mean that the so-called Trump political phenomenon can now be put down as nothing more that an emperor without clothes?

I don't think so. Regardless of the result, the fact that Trump got himself into the Whitehouse was a political achievement that defied all norms and I'd make the pitch that it was in itself both educational and the sign of a healthy political system. At the end of the day it has shown that people who buck the system can still get into positions of responsibility. While Trump isn't a resounding success there may be a time down the track when a leader who isn't a prisoner of the superpacs and lobbyists raises their head and makes a contribution. It has also been a lesson for democratic societies world-wide who all have the faults of complacency and apathy towards the voting system. And that's putting a negative slant on what was an extraordinary political feat by Trump... all the factors that lead to his success: his use of modern media, the tapping of an undercurrent in society that others ignored, his personal direct style, all deserve study and understanding.


It's all very well treating this as an academic exercise and I agree that it should be studied and learned and lessons taken from it, but in reality, it ain't an academic exposition, at least not yet.


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Donald Trump boasted he made things up in a conversation with Canada's prime minister, insisting the US ran a trade deficit with its neighbour despite having "no idea" if the claim were true, the Washington Post reported.

The US President recalled the exchange with Justin Trudeau in a fundraising speech in Missouri, of which the paper said it had obtained an audio recording.

"Trudeau came to see me. He's a good guy, Justin. He said, 'No, no, we have no trade deficit with you, we have none. Donald, please,'" Mr Trump said, imitating Mr Trudeau, the paper reported.

"Nice guy, good-looking guy, comes in - 'Donald, we have no trade deficit.' He's very proud because everybody else, you know, we're getting killed.

"So, he's proud. I said, 'Wrong, Justin, you do.' I didn't even know. ... I had no idea. I just said, 'You're wrong.'"

Mr Trump added: "You know why? Because we're so stupid. ... And I thought they were smart. I said, 'You're wrong, Justin.'

"He said, 'Nope, we have no trade deficit.' I said, 'Well, in that case, I feel differently,' I said, 'but I don't believe it.'

"I sent one of our guys out, his guy, my guy, they went out, I said, 'Check, because I can't believe it.'"


According to the US Trade Representative, the United States runs a trade surplus with Canada.


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Better picture of the couple. As someone pointed out, it looks like he farted and she is taking the blame.


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Donald Trump boasted he made things up in a conversation with Canada's prime minister, insisting the US ran a trade deficit with its neighbour despite having "no idea" if the claim were true, the Washington Post reported.

The US President recalled the exchange with Justin Trudeau in a fundraising speech in Missouri, of which the paper said it had obtained an audio recording.

"Trudeau came to see me. He's a good guy, Justin. He said, 'No, no, we have no trade deficit with you, we have none. Donald, please,'" Mr Trump said, imitating Mr Trudeau, the paper reported.

"Nice guy, good-looking guy, comes in - 'Donald, we have no trade deficit.' He's very proud because everybody else, you know, we're getting killed.

"So, he's proud. I said, 'Wrong, Justin, you do.' I didn't even know. ... I had no idea. I just said, 'You're wrong.'"

Mr Trump added: "You know why? Because we're so stupid. ... And I thought they were smart. I said, 'You're wrong, Justin.'

"He said, 'Nope, we have no trade deficit.' I said, 'Well, in that case, I feel differently,' I said, 'but I don't believe it.'

"I sent one of our guys out, his guy, my guy, they went out, I said, 'Check, because I can't believe it.'"


According to the US Trade Representative, the United States runs a trade surplus with Canada.


That makes him sound like a ridiculous bluffer who speaks with no regard for facts or truth and has neither the intellectual curiosity nor the inclination to understand what he is talking about and prepare himself properly.


I wonder how those talks with North Korea will go?


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The rumour is that Stormy will be on 60 minutes this Sunday primed and ready to show and tell.

And on the PA-18 result, does mean that the so-called Trump political phenomenon can now be put down as nothing more that an emperor without clothes?

I don't think so. Regardless of the result, the fact that Trump got himself into the Whitehouse was a political achievement that defied all norms and I'd make the pitch that it was in itself both educational and the sign of a healthy political system. At the end of the day it has shown that people who buck the system can still get into positions of responsibility. While Trump isn't a resounding success there may be a time down the track when a leader who isn't a prisoner of the superpacs and lobbyists raises their head and makes a contribution. It has also been a lesson for democratic societies world-wide who all have the faults of complacency and apathy towards the voting system. And that's putting a negative slant on what was an extraordinary political feat by Trump... all the factors that lead to his success: his use of modern media, the tapping of an undercurrent in society that others ignored, his personal direct style, all deserve study and understanding.


It's all very well treating this as an academic exercise and I agree that it should be studied and learned and lessons taken from it, but in reality, it ain't an academic exposition, at least not yet.



From a practical pov (as PR posters) you and me cannot help but view it as an academic exposition, period. Sod all you (or I ) can do to change things, there.


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