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You're an order of magnitude out. Minimum is 1/1,024th. She's homeopathically Indian.

All she's managed to prove is she is less Indian than the average honky.


That was a quote from the bbc, as I couldn't get to the Boston Globe source. What's your reference for the 1/1024?


In any case, Trump ensured it wasn't about the amount, it was just if there was 'any' Native American heritage.


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Turbogoat wrote:
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You're an order of magnitude out. Minimum is 1/1,024th. She's homeopathically Indian.

All she's managed to prove is she is less Indian than the average honky.


That was a quote from the bbc, as I couldn't get to the Boston Globe source. What's your reference for the 1/1024?


In any case, Trump ensured it wasn't about the amount, it was just if there was 'any' Native American heritage.


Not sure about that.

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We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."


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zzzz wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
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You're an order of magnitude out. Minimum is 1/1,024th. She's homeopathically Indian.

All she's managed to prove is she is less Indian than the average honky.


That was a quote from the bbc, as I couldn't get to the Boston Globe source. What's your reference for the 1/1024?


In any case, Trump ensured it wasn't about the amount, it was just if there was 'any' Native American heritage.


Not sure about that.

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We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."


However far you have to move the goalposts to help you sleep at night, it's all just a petty distraction from real events... unless of course Trump has the balls to front up with the million bucks.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:33 pm 
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Turbogoat wrote:
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You're an order of magnitude out. Minimum is 1/1,024th. She's homeopathically Indian.

All she's managed to prove is she is less Indian than the average honky.


That was a quote from the bbc, as I couldn't get to the Boston Globe source. What's your reference for the 1/1024?


In any case, Trump ensured it wasn't about the amount, it was just if there was 'any' Native American heritage.


Not sure about that.

Quote:
We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."


However far you have to move the goalposts to help you sleep at night, it's all just a petty distraction from real events... unless of course Trump has the balls to front up with the million bucks.


Hmm. How's that moving goal posts?


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You don't need a reference to find out 1/1024. You just need basic maths.


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zzzz wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
zzzz wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
zzzz wrote:

You're an order of magnitude out. Minimum is 1/1,024th. She's homeopathically Indian.

All she's managed to prove is she is less Indian than the average honky.


That was a quote from the bbc, as I couldn't get to the Boston Globe source. What's your reference for the 1/1024?


In any case, Trump ensured it wasn't about the amount, it was just if there was 'any' Native American heritage.


Not sure about that.

Quote:
We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."


However far you have to move the goalposts to help you sleep at night, it's all just a petty distraction from real events... unless of course Trump has the balls to front up with the million bucks.


Hmm. How's that moving goal posts?


Not you personally, think of them as more generalized goalposts. Sorry about that.

The claims went from
"Warren claimed to be a minority to get a prestigious job and big house!"

to

"OK, she didn't claim any special status to get a job, and her house is a lot less big than we thought, but her Mum still said she had a Native American ancestor and for that we must call her Pocahontas in a derogatory fashion for being a big fat liar"

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"OK, but she might not be very much of a Native American"


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Here come the “hypocrats” again.

Do you guys ever, ever commit to your bullshit or is everything a stretch goal?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:43 pm 
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You don't need a reference to find out 1/1024. You just need basic maths.


The Boston Globe have corrected the “math error” in their article.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:46 pm 
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You don't need a reference to find out 1/1024. You just need basic maths.


The Boston Globe have corrected the “math error” in their article.


Aha, thank you. So that's the bottom of the range, right? What's the top of the range? Still 1/32 or did they make an error there too?


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zzzz wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
zzzz wrote:

You're an order of magnitude out. Minimum is 1/1,024th. She's homeopathically Indian.

All she's managed to prove is she is less Indian than the average honky.


That was a quote from the bbc, as I couldn't get to the Boston Globe source. What's your reference for the 1/1024?


In any case, Trump ensured it wasn't about the amount, it was just if there was 'any' Native American heritage.


Not sure about that.

Quote:
We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."


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"I'm going to get one of those little [DNA testing] kits and in the middle of the debate, when she proclaims she's of Indian heritage...," Trump said.


Well, I'm sure about that.

I see that Conway is throwing out the junk science line to muddy the waters and of course honest Don is denying the $1 million bet.

He is worth 9 billion, you would think he would follow through with his promise.


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If only his Daddy was still around to give him another million dollar 'loan'


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And in some real news, the US budget deficit has blown out by another $114 billion this year, and is on target to top $ 1 trillion next year and we are not even in a recession.

Tea Party diehards like Rep Jordan must be besides themselves. Shirley they must?


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Turbogoat wrote:

Not you personally, think of them as more generalized goalposts. Sorry about that.

The claims went from
"Warren claimed to be a minority to get a prestigious job and big house!"

to

"OK, she didn't claim any special status to get a job, and her house is a lot less big than we thought, but her Mum still said she had a Native American ancestor and for that we must call her Pocahontas in a derogatory fashion for being a big fat liar"

to

"OK, but she might not be very much of a Native American"


That’s so much shite. Goalposts haven't moved at all, well except perhaps by Warrens defenders who are now reaching very far to defend her. She’s just been proven to be a liar on this subject.

The evidence that she used her “heritage” to advance her career is clear.

She claimed to be Cherokee and Delaware Indian. She claimed that her parents had to move due to their mixed race marriage.

The test found that maybe, just maybe, 300 years ago, she might have had an ancestor that was born in Mexico or South America. Which is a very very long way from what she claimed.

Oh, and the average American has twice as much Native American blood as she has.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:53 pm 
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Turbogoat wrote:
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You don't need a reference to find out 1/1024. You just need basic maths.


The Boston Globe have corrected the “math error” in their article.


Aha, thank you. So that's the bottom of the range, right? What's the top of the range? Still 1/32 or did they make an error there too?


1/64 to 1/1,024


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zt1903 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:

Not you personally, think of them as more generalized goalposts. Sorry about that.

The claims went from
"Warren claimed to be a minority to get a prestigious job and big house!"

to

"OK, she didn't claim any special status to get a job, and her house is a lot less big than we thought, but her Mum still said she had a Native American ancestor and for that we must call her Pocahontas in a derogatory fashion for being a big fat liar"

to

"OK, but she might not be very much of a Native American"


That’s so much shite. Goalposts haven't moved at all, well except perhaps by Warrens defenders who are now reaching very far to defend her. She’s just been proven to be a liar on this subject.

The evidence that she used her “heritage” to advance her career is clear.

She claimed to be Cherokee and Delaware Indian. She claimed that her parents had to move due to their mixed race marriage.

The test found that maybe, just maybe, 300 years ago, she might have had an ancestor that was born in Mexico or South America. Which is a very very long way from what she claimed.

Oh, and the average American has twice as much Native American blood as she has.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eliza ... -american/

Goalpost on wheels. 8)


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Not you personally, think of them as more generalized goalposts. Sorry about that.

The claims went from
"Warren claimed to be a minority to get a prestigious job and big house!"

to

"OK, she didn't claim any special status to get a job, and her house is a lot less big than we thought, but her Mum still said she had a Native American ancestor and for that we must call her Pocahontas in a derogatory fashion for being a big fat liar"

to

"OK, but she might not be very much of a Native American"


Is that what he actually said?


See above for some of the less salubrious claims that were made.


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zt1903 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
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You don't need a reference to find out 1/1024. You just need basic maths.


The Boston Globe have corrected the “math error” in their article.


Aha, thank you. So that's the bottom of the range, right? What's the top of the range? Still 1/32 or did they make an error there too?


1/64 to 1/1,024


Which, according to basic maths is still greater than zero.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:04 pm 
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Turbogoat wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:

Not you personally, think of them as more generalized goalposts. Sorry about that.

The claims went from
"Warren claimed to be a minority to get a prestigious job and big house!"

to

"OK, she didn't claim any special status to get a job, and her house is a lot less big than we thought, but her Mum still said she had a Native American ancestor and for that we must call her Pocahontas in a derogatory fashion for being a big fat liar"

to

"OK, but she might not be very much of a Native American"


That’s so much shite. Goalposts haven't moved at all, well except perhaps by Warrens defenders who are now reaching very far to defend her. She’s just been proven to be a liar on this subject.

The evidence that she used her “heritage” to advance her career is clear.

She claimed to be Cherokee and Delaware Indian. She claimed that her parents had to move due to their mixed race marriage.

The test found that maybe, just maybe, 300 years ago, she might have had an ancestor that was born in Mexico or South America. Which is a very very long way from what she claimed.

Oh, and the average American has twice as much Native American blood as she has.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eliza ... -american/

Goalpost on wheels. 8)


Yes indeed. A very narrow fact check. :roll:


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
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Not you personally, think of them as more generalized goalposts. Sorry about that.

The claims went from
"Warren claimed to be a minority to get a prestigious job and big house!"

to

"OK, she didn't claim any special status to get a job, and her house is a lot less big than we thought, but her Mum still said she had a Native American ancestor and for that we must call her Pocahontas in a derogatory fashion for being a big fat liar"

to

"OK, but she might not be very much of a Native American"


Is that what he actually said?


See above for some of the less salubrious claims that were made.


So did he say it or didn't he?


Good question, I simply said "the claims went from..." which doesn't mean they came directly from Donald, they're a little too detailed for his taste in any case.


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zt1903 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:

Not you personally, think of them as more generalized goalposts. Sorry about that.

The claims went from
"Warren claimed to be a minority to get a prestigious job and big house!"

to

"OK, she didn't claim any special status to get a job, and her house is a lot less big than we thought, but her Mum still said she had a Native American ancestor and for that we must call her Pocahontas in a derogatory fashion for being a big fat liar"

to

"OK, but she might not be very much of a Native American"


That’s so much shite. Goalposts haven't moved at all, well except perhaps by Warrens defenders who are now reaching very far to defend her. She’s just been proven to be a liar on this subject.

The evidence that she used her “heritage” to advance her career is clear.

She claimed to be Cherokee and Delaware Indian. She claimed that her parents had to move due to their mixed race marriage.

The test found that maybe, just maybe, 300 years ago, she might have had an ancestor that was born in Mexico or South America. Which is a very very long way from what she claimed.

Oh, and the average American has twice as much Native American blood as she has.


Is she a registered member of either tribe? If she isn't, on the current blood quantum she wouldn't be able to register.


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Okay, so it was made up, like a Bob Woodward book. Cool.


What an odd equivalence to make. Have you read the Woodward book yet? The research and sourcing that went into it is slightly more than a crap internet meme that Trump picked up and ran with.

It's all irrelevant in any case, none of the Trumpian base will be at all impressed with facts.


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Santa wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:

Not you personally, think of them as more generalized goalposts. Sorry about that.

The claims went from
"Warren claimed to be a minority to get a prestigious job and big house!"

to

"OK, she didn't claim any special status to get a job, and her house is a lot less big than we thought, but her Mum still said she had a Native American ancestor and for that we must call her Pocahontas in a derogatory fashion for being a big fat liar"

to

"OK, but she might not be very much of a Native American"


That’s so much shite. Goalposts haven't moved at all, well except perhaps by Warrens defenders who are now reaching very far to defend her. She’s just been proven to be a liar on this subject.

The evidence that she used her “heritage” to advance her career is clear.

She claimed to be Cherokee and Delaware Indian. She claimed that her parents had to move due to their mixed race marriage.

The test found that maybe, just maybe, 300 years ago, she might have had an ancestor that was born in Mexico or South America. Which is a very very long way from what she claimed.

Oh, and the average American has twice as much Native American blood as she has.


Is she a registered member of either tribe? If she isn't, on the current blood quantum she wouldn't be able to register.


No, and she never claimed to have done so. But hell, if zt1903 has shifted the goalposts too far for you already you can always try and build some more of your own to take potshots at. :roll:


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Turbogoat wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
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You don't need a reference to find out 1/1024. You just need basic maths.


The Boston Globe have corrected the “math error” in their article.


Aha, thank you. So that's the bottom of the range, right? What's the top of the range? Still 1/32 or did they make an error there too?


1/64 to 1/1,024


Which, according to basic maths is still greater than zero.



This is up there with one of the most garbage takes ever on PR.

The result makes Warrens claiming of Native Indian heritage on applications immoral if not illegal.


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This is up there with one of the most garbage takes ever on PR.

The result makes Warrens claiming of Native Indian heritage on applications immoral if not illegal.


Check the Snopes page linked above. She didn't do anything like it.

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In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eliza ... -american/


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From the Fordham Law Review, 1997

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"There are few women of color who hold important positions in the academy, Fortune 500 companies, or other prominent fields or industries," the piece says. "This is not inconsequential. Diversifying these arenas, in part by adding qualified women of color to their ranks, remains important for many reaons. For one, there are scant women of color as role models. In my three years at Stanford Law School, there were no professors who were women of color. Harvard Law School hired its first woman of color, Elizabeth Warren, in 1995."


https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-ha ... lor-123526

:lol: :lol:


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Not sure if posted already, but in light of Trumps tweet about his phone call to the king of that shithole country.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/oct/12/trump-khashoggi-case-will-not-stop-110bn-us-saudi-arms-trade-video

In some ways he is refreshingly awful in his honesty when talking about it...


Most honest president ever. Better than the 'all options are on the table' crap they normally spout.


Yup, the Saudi $110Billion Arms Memorandum if understanding will go down as Trump's Cherry Tree moment.

I can't think that Trump would regard the execution of a journalist of worthy of any censure, to be frank.


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From the Fordham Law Review, 1997

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"There are few women of color who hold important positions in the academy, Fortune 500 companies, or other prominent fields or industries," the piece says. "This is not inconsequential. Diversifying these arenas, in part by adding qualified women of color to their ranks, remains important for many reaons. For one, there are scant women of color as role models. In my three years at Stanford Law School, there were no professors who were women of color. Harvard Law School hired its first woman of color, Elizabeth Warren, in 1995."


https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-ha ... lor-123526

:lol: :lol:


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The Herald has twice quoted Charles Fried, the head of the Harvard appointing committee that recommended Warren for her position in 1995, saying that the Democratic candidate’s heritage didn’t come up during the course of her hiring. “It simply played no role in the appointments process,” he said. “It was not mentioned and I didn’t mention it to the faculty.”

The Herald later quoted Fried, a former U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan, saying, “I can state categorically that the subject of her Native American ancestry never once was mentioned.”


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In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.

The Globe examined hundreds of documents, many of them never before available, and reached out to all 52 of the law professors who are still living and were eligible to be in [on the decision]. Some are Warren’s allies. Others are not. Thirty-one agreed to talk to the Globe — including the law professor who was, at the time, in charge of recruiting minority faculty. Most said they were unaware of her claims to Native American heritage and all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire. One professor told the Globe he is unsure whether her heritage came up, but is certain that, if it did, it had no bearing on his vote on Warren’s appointment.


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What's your point?



Apart from Warren not using any claim of Native American heritage as a means to getting employed or whatever else Sonny was concerned about?

God knows.

Maybe Trump should start demanding to see the last 10 generations worth of long form birth certificates just to be sure? Hey, it might save him a million dollars.


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What's your point?



Apart from Warren not using any claim of Native American heritage as a means to getting employed or whatever else Sonny was concerned about?

God knows.

Maybe Trump should start demanding to see the last 10 generations worth of long form birth certificates just to be sure? Hey, it might save him a million dollars.



She knowingly lied on her applications.

Her success or not with those lies does not absolve the act.


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What's your point?



Apart from Warren not using any claim of Native American heritage as a means to getting employed or whatever else Sonny was concerned about?

God knows.

Maybe Trump should start demanding to see the last 10 generations worth of long form birth certificates just to be sure? Hey, it might save him a million dollars.



She knowingly lied on her applications.

Her success or not with those lies does not absolve the act.


Not according to the Boston Globe investigation.


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Sounds like the poor woman has been the subject of an unsubstantiated, race-lobbing smear.

I await and expect the customary withdrawals


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Turbogoat wrote:
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Turbogoat wrote:
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What's your point?



Apart from Warren not using any claim of Native American heritage as a means to getting employed or whatever else Sonny was concerned about?

God knows.

Maybe Trump should start demanding to see the last 10 generations worth of long form birth certificates just to be sure? Hey, it might save him a million dollars.



She knowingly lied on her applications.

Her success or not with those lies does not absolve the act.


Not according to the Boston Globe investigation.



One thing’s for sure though.

I can confirm that Sonny is more than 1/1024th mong


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https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status ... 1938887680

Every Time Elizabeth Warren Has Lied About Her Native American Heritage:

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1. Elizabeth Warren self-identified as a "Native American" in the The Association of American Law Schools Directory of law professors in every edition printed between 1986 -1995.

2. After becoming a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, Warren demanded the University change her faculty listed ethnicity from “white” to “Native American.”

3. Warren was identified by Harvard Law as a “woman of color.” Harvard promoted Warren’s hire as expanding their campus diversity by hiring a woman with "minority background" onto their faculty.

4. Warren claimed that her mother and father had to elope due to her mom’s obvious Indian heritage and the white bigotry of her father’s family. Here is a photo of Warren's mom:

Here is video of Warren telling this story: "My mom and dad were very much in love and they wanted to get married. My father's parents said 'Absolutely not because she's part Cherokee and Delaware.' After fighting it they eloped."

5. Warren submitted multiple recipes for the Indian cookbook “Pow Wow Chow” and signed her name, “Elizabeth Warren - Cherokee”

6. Warren used offensive, racially charged language to defend her claims of Native American heritage, declaring that her family had “high cheekbones” like “all the Indians do.”

7. Warren has now claimed that she *may* have 1/1024th Indian DNA. This is equally problematic since DNA science proves that the average white American has .18% Indian DNA, far more that Warren's .098% (lowest estimate according to study)

8. Multiple members of Warren's direct family have disputed her claims of a "proud Native American heritage." They deny the Senator's Indian heritage stories fervently:

9. Warren's DNA report did not measure actual Native American DNA. The report actually measured Colombian, Mexican and Peruvian DNA. Of which Warren *may* have a tiny, tiny fraction - possibly.

10. It is very difficult to argue that Warren did not commit racial fraud. She used the advantages in the system to advance her career with no evidence (to this day) that she is actually Native American. Democrats defending her behavior on this point is dubious - at best.


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Sonny Blount wrote:
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1051892151938887680

Every Time Elizabeth Warren Has Lied About Her Native American Heritage:

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1. Elizabeth Warren self-identified as a "Native American" in the The Association of American Law Schools Directory of law professors in every edition printed between 1986 -1995.

2. After becoming a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, Warren demanded the University change her faculty listed ethnicity from “white” to “Native American.”

3. Warren was identified by Harvard Law as a “woman of color.” Harvard promoted Warren’s hire as expanding their campus diversity by hiring a woman with "minority background" onto their faculty.

4. Warren claimed that her mother and father had to elope due to her mom’s obvious Indian heritage and the white bigotry of her father’s family. Here is a photo of Warren's mom:

Here is video of Warren telling this story: "My mom and dad were very much in love and they wanted to get married. My father's parents said 'Absolutely not because she's part Cherokee and Delaware.' After fighting it they eloped."

5. Warren submitted multiple recipes for the Indian cookbook “Pow Wow Chow” and signed her name, “Elizabeth Warren - Cherokee”

6. Warren used offensive, racially charged language to defend her claims of Native American heritage, declaring that her family had “high cheekbones” like “all the Indians do.”

7. Warren has now claimed that she *may* have 1/1024th Indian DNA. This is equally problematic since DNA science proves that the average white American has .18% Indian DNA, far more that Warren's .098% (lowest estimate according to study)

8. Multiple members of Warren's direct family have disputed her claims of a "proud Native American heritage." They deny the Senator's Indian heritage stories fervently:

9. Warren's DNA report did not measure actual Native American DNA. The report actually measured Colombian, Mexican and Peruvian DNA. Of which Warren *may* have a tiny, tiny fraction - possibly.

10. It is very difficult to argue that Warren did not commit racial fraud. She used the advantages in the system to advance her career with no evidence (to this day) that she is actually Native American. Democrats defending her behavior on this point is dubious - at best.



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According to the experts:

zt1903 wrote:

1/64 to 1/1,024


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
FWIW I just read a blog comment from one of the worlds leading geneticists who has said that the dude who did the test is much more accurate than the usual kit, and the ancestor is probably six generations back, well within the realms of family lore, and on a balance of probabilities Warren has been telling the truth as she knew it and that the story got away on her in today's crazy race environment and that the matter should be dropped.

But what I want to know is this: does this mean race exists?


That's by far and away the most reasonable comment on this whole thing.
(Trump still owes her a million bucks though)


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
FWIW I just read a blog comment from one of the worlds leading geneticists who has said that the dude who did the test is much more accurate than the usual kit, and the ancestor is probably six generations back, well within the realms of family lore, and on a balance of probabilities Warren has been telling the truth as she knew it and that the story got away on her in today's crazy race environment and that the matter should be dropped.

But what I want to know is this: does this mean race exists?



I feel a but sorry for you in respect of your motley band of offsiders.

In your mind, you’re probably James Spader surrounded by a smart band of young elitists

The reality is probably more Kiefer Sutherland in Stand By Me


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shanky wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
FWIW I just read a blog comment from one of the worlds leading geneticists who has said that the dude who did the test is much more accurate than the usual kit, and the ancestor is probably six generations back, well within the realms of family lore, and on a balance of probabilities Warren has been telling the truth as she knew it and that the story got away on her in today's crazy race environment and that the matter should be dropped.

But what I want to know is this: does this mean race exists?



I feel a but sorry for you in respect of your motley band of offsiders.

In your mind, you’re probably James Spader surrounded by a smart band of young elitists

The reality is probably more Kiefer Sutherland in The Lost Boys


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Whereas our crew is more like Red Dawn, with Homg Kong as a wild-eyed C Thomas Howell

I’m undecided as to whether I’m Swayze or Sheen


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