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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:13 pm 
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The only problem our economy has is the Fed. They don’t have a feel for the Market, they don’t understand necessary Trade Wars or Strong Dollars or even Democrat Shutdowns over Borders. The Fed is like a powerful golfer who can’t score because he has no touch - he can’t putt!


Guess who? :lol:


Just seen his last 5 hours of tweets, it’s f**king mental.

The guy doesn’t even drink


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The only problem our economy has is the Fed. They don’t have a feel for the Market, they don’t understand necessary Trade Wars or Strong Dollars or even Democrat Shutdowns over Borders. The Fed is like a powerful golfer who can’t score because he has no touch - he can’t putt!


Guess who? :lol:


Just seen his last 5 hours of tweets, it’s f**king mental.

The guy doesn’t even drink


Ex coke head with an adderol problem


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The only problem our economy has is the Fed. They don’t have a feel for the Market, they don’t understand necessary Trade Wars or Strong Dollars or even Democrat Shutdowns over Borders. The Fed is like a powerful golfer who can’t score because he has no touch - he can’t putt!


Guess who? :lol:

Fuckin' idiot completely out of his depth.


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I wish I had written it.

Donald Trump answers the question: What is 2+2?
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"I have to say a lot of people have been asking this question. No, really. A lot of people come up to me and they ask me. They say, 'What's 2+2'? And I tell them look, we know what 2+2 is. We've had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh my God, I can't believe it. Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s. It's terrible. It's just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I'll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way, I love the number 2. It's probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it's probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. A lot. If I'm being honest, I mean, if I'm being honest. I like a lot of zeros. Except for Marco Rubio, now he's a zero that I don't like. Though, I probably shouldn't say that. He's a nice guy but he's like, '10101000101,' on and on, like that. He's like a computer! You know what I mean? He's like a computer. I don't know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers, and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR divide them, they don't tell you that, and I'll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You wouldn't believe it. So, we're gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me."


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:13 am 
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I'd like to see Alec Baldwin do that one :).


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:09 am 
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You laugh, but it's the dialogue the base are firmly on board for (even though the socialists don't actually get in until the New Year).


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:28 pm 
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You laugh, but it's the dialogue the base are firmly on board for (even though the socialists don't actually get in until the New Year).


I know, but the base won't have their minds changed about anything regardless


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The other thing to watch out for will be when the first GOP Congressman complains about the deficit and how it's the responsibility of Democrats to get it under control. I give it less than a week


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To all my fellow Russian bots

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:20 pm 
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Trump to boy: Do you believe in Santa?

There are some questions no-one should ever ask.

"What does this red button do?"

"What do people say about me?"

"Do you believe in Santa Claus?"

Now we all know Santa Claus exists. But for some reason, the US president threw doubt on this when speaking to one child on Christmas Eve.

The scene was the State Dining Room in the White House.

Donald Trump and his wife Melania were taking calls from American children as the couple sat under two gargantuan Christmas trees.

All the children who called in had done so in the hope of getting through to Norad, the government agency that tracks Santa's movements around the world at Christmas (that is still operating despite a partial government shutdown).

Some of those calls were patched through to Mr Trump and his wife, and thanks to pool reporter Kevin Diaz, we know some of what the president said.

This is how Diaz reported the exchange:

Trump (in booming voice) to a kid named Coleman: "Hello, is this Coleman? Merry Christmas. How are you? How old are you?.... Are you doing well in school? Are you still a believer in Santa?"

Footage of the incident circulating on social media shows Mr Trump then telling the boy: "Because at seven, it's marginal, right?"

Coleman's response is not clear.

And nor is it clear why Mr Trump asked this particular question, because, of course, Santa's existence is beyond dispute. Although maybe Coleman is not so sure anymore
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46678124


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Wonder if The Don had his customary steak. Overdone. With ketchup.

His worst sin, probably.


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He’s gonna love prison, all the steaks are like that.


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He’s gonna love prison, all the steaks are like that.



Speaking from experience, eh...


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Somebody’s gotta put ‘em away.


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You sound desperate. And hopeless.


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You laugh, but it's the dialogue the base are firmly on board for (even though the socialists don't actually get in until the New Year).


I know, but the base won't have their minds changed about anything regardless


It's quite convenient to get provided with pics here that give an early indication of just how they're going to try to interpret the facts and establish their own narrative. One day they might come up with something less ridiculous, but as it's more about placating their own congregation rather than converting anyone else, it's unlikely.


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slick wrote:
Sefton wrote:
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The only problem our economy has is the Fed. They don’t have a feel for the Market, they don’t understand necessary Trade Wars or Strong Dollars or even Democrat Shutdowns over Borders. The Fed is like a powerful golfer who can’t score because he has no touch - he can’t putt!


Guess who? :lol:


Just seen his last 5 hours of tweets, it’s f**king mental.

The guy doesn’t even drink


:lol: That twitter rant may be his most erratic yet. See what happens when the government is shut down and there's nobody to restrict his twitter time?


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The Man Without Fear wrote:
(even though the socialists don't actually get in until the New Year).

Just the rumour of their arrival was enough to spook investors


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Uthikoloshe wrote:
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(even though the socialists don't actually get in until the New Year).

Just the rumour of their arrival was enough to spook investors


That makes no sense, according to cornflake midterms were a huge success. Why would investors be spooked?

Are you saying he’s a liar?


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You sound desperate. And hopeless.

Omg you’ve migrated from frothy, are we witnessing the 3rd great trek?


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houtkabouter wrote:
Uthikoloshe wrote:
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(even though the socialists don't actually get in until the New Year).

Just the rumour of their arrival was enough to spook investors


That makes no sense, according to cornflake midterms were a huge success. Why would investors be spooked?

Are you saying he’s a liar?

So lets get this right, you spend you life calling Trump and idiot, and now your quoting him as a source?


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Uthikoloshe wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:
Uthikoloshe wrote:
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(even though the socialists don't actually get in until the New Year).

Just the rumour of their arrival was enough to spook investors


That makes no sense, according to cornflake midterms were a huge success. Why would investors be spooked?

Are you saying he’s a liar?

So lets get this right, you spend you life calling Trump and idiot, and now your quoting him as a source?


As far as reliable sources go, Donald Trump is indeed a very reliable source on what Donald Trump has said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSeg24oxvqE


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So Turkey which provided support to ISIS, allowed free access via Turkey and buy oil from ISIS are supposed to defeat ISIS?

B O L L O C K S !

Trump is a bend over merchant.


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Uthikoloshe wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:
Uthikoloshe wrote:
The Man Without Fear wrote:
(even though the socialists don't actually get in until the New Year).

Just the rumour of their arrival was enough to spook investors


That makes no sense, according to cornflake midterms were a huge success. Why would investors be spooked?

Are you saying he’s a liar?

So lets get this right, you spend you life calling Trump and idiot, and now your quoting him as a source?

So you’re saying trumps an idiot now and we shouldn’t believe him?


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Turbogoat wrote:
:lol: That twitter rant may be his most erratic yet. See what happens when the government is shut down and there's nobody to restrict his twitter time?


I liked this one, even if I have no idea what he means by Shutdown money.

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The Wall is different than the 25 Billion Dollars in Border Security. The complete Wall will be built with the Shutdown money plus funds already in hand. The reporting has been inaccurate on the point. The problem is, without the Wall, much of the rest of Dollars are wasted!


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So Turkey which provided support to ISIS, allowed free access via Turkey and buy oil from ISIS are supposed to defeat ISIS?

B O L L O C K S !

Trump is a bend over merchant.

Is Assad still their biggest customer


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So Turkey which provided support to ISIS, allowed free access via Turkey and buy oil from ISIS are supposed to defeat ISIS?

B O L L O C K S !

Trump is a bend over merchant.

Is Assad still their biggest customer


Saudi maybe? Think the Syrians are largely Russian kit.


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It is quite obvious Trump has never spoken to little kids before :lol:

why is he such a weirdo


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Och, the OUTRAGE !!!!!!!


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Kiwias wrote:
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:lol: That twitter rant may be his most erratic yet. See what happens when the government is shut down and there's nobody to restrict his twitter time?


I liked this one, even if I have no idea what he means by Shutdown money.

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The Wall is different than the 25 Billion Dollars in Border Security. The complete Wall will be built with the Shutdown money plus funds already in hand. The reporting has been inaccurate on the point. The problem is, without the Wall, much of the rest of Dollars are wasted!


Shutdowns cost money so what does that even mean?

Also he's not I thought legally allowed to commit any area of his government to a spend it doesn’t have appropriated funds for, nor direct monies that were intended for something else? This is one of those times the executive is the weakest branch of government, which is sort of the point when he's not supposed to be able to act like a dictator


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Also he's not I thought legally allowed to commit any area of his government to a spend it doesn’t have appropriated funds for, nor direct monies that were intended for something else? This is one of those times the executive is the weakest branch of government, which is sort of the point when he's not supposed to be able to act like a dictator


While I am completely onside for most Trump-bashing I would comment that the number of Presidents who have NOT campaigned for funding for their policies in advance of the act of appropriation must be close to, if not exactly, zero


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Also he's not I thought legally allowed to commit any area of his government to a spend it doesn’t have appropriated funds for, nor direct monies that were intended for something else? This is one of those times the executive is the weakest branch of government, which is sort of the point when he's not supposed to be able to act like a dictator


While I am completely onside for most Trump-bashing I would comment that the number of Presidents who have NOT campaigned for funding for their policies in advance of the act of appropriation must be close to, if not exactly, zero


He has shutdown the federal government, or parts of it. That goes quite a long way past campaigning for funding.


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Also he's not I thought legally allowed to commit any area of his government to a spend it doesn’t have appropriated funds for, nor direct monies that were intended for something else? This is one of those times the executive is the weakest branch of government, which is sort of the point when he's not supposed to be able to act like a dictator


While I am completely onside for most Trump-bashing I would comment that the number of Presidents who have NOT campaigned for funding for their policies in advance of the act of appropriation must be close to, if not exactly, zero

I don't think piquant is saying The Don shouldn't be campaigning for funding.


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Also he's not I thought legally allowed to commit any area of his government to a spend it doesn’t have appropriated funds for, nor direct monies that were intended for something else? This is one of those times the executive is the weakest branch of government, which is sort of the point when he's not supposed to be able to act like a dictator


While I am completely onside for most Trump-bashing I would comment that the number of Presidents who have NOT campaigned for funding for their policies in advance of the act of appropriation must be close to, if not exactly, zero


Trump didn't campaign for it either, but all of them are required to get Congress on board pre being able to spend given Congress controls the budget, even where they consider there's an actual mandate


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Kiwias wrote:
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Also he's not I thought legally allowed to commit any area of his government to a spend it doesn’t have appropriated funds for, nor direct monies that were intended for something else? This is one of those times the executive is the weakest branch of government, which is sort of the point when he's not supposed to be able to act like a dictator


While I am completely onside for most Trump-bashing I would comment that the number of Presidents who have NOT campaigned for funding for their policies in advance of the act of appropriation must be close to, if not exactly, zero


He has shutdown the federal government, or parts of it. That goes quite a long way past campaigning for funding.


Again, this is not without precedent and of all the things one might have a go at Trump for trying to get his own policies enacted would not be my first choice.

Have a go at the policy oh yes
Deplore the deliberately divisive, selfish narrative for sure
Be sceptical that this tactic will do anything other than make many Americans poorer (and encourage opponents to dig their heels in)
Mock the mixture of egotism and idiocy apparent in his behaviour
Despair at the return to nativist and mercantilist policies
Fear the consequences of blood and soil politics

All of these and more

But it would be naive to expect a President to simply avoid a shutdown 'because'......


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ManInTheBar wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
ManInTheBar wrote:
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Also he's not I thought legally allowed to commit any area of his government to a spend it doesn’t have appropriated funds for, nor direct monies that were intended for something else? This is one of those times the executive is the weakest branch of government, which is sort of the point when he's not supposed to be able to act like a dictator


While I am completely onside for most Trump-bashing I would comment that the number of Presidents who have NOT campaigned for funding for their policies in advance of the act of appropriation must be close to, if not exactly, zero


He has shutdown the federal government, or parts of it. That goes quite a long way past campaigning for funding.


Again, this is not without precedent and of all the things one might have a go at Trump for trying to get his own policies enacted would not be my first choice.

Have a go at the policy oh yes
Deplore the deliberately divisive, selfish narrative for sure
Be sceptical that this tactic will do anything other than make many Americans poorer (and encourage opponents to dig their heels in)
Mock the mixture of egotism and idiocy apparent in his behaviour
Despair at the return to nativist and mercantilist policies
Fear the consequences of blood and soil politics

All of these and more

But it would be naive to expect a President to simply avoid a shutdown 'because'......

I think the point is that there was a deal done that Trump was going to sign but he suddenly did an U-turn in the face of criticism from the right.

My understanding is that everyone thought that the deal was done and then Donny changed his mind.


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ManInTheBar wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
ManInTheBar wrote:
piquant wrote:

Also he's not I thought legally allowed to commit any area of his government to a spend it doesn’t have appropriated funds for, nor direct monies that were intended for something else? This is one of those times the executive is the weakest branch of government, which is sort of the point when he's not supposed to be able to act like a dictator


While I am completely onside for most Trump-bashing I would comment that the number of Presidents who have NOT campaigned for funding for their policies in advance of the act of appropriation must be close to, if not exactly, zero


He has shutdown the federal government, or parts of it. That goes quite a long way past campaigning for funding.


Again, this is not without precedent and of all the things one might have a go at Trump for trying to get his own policies enacted would not be my first choice.

Have a go at the policy oh yes
Deplore the deliberately divisive, selfish narrative for sure
Be sceptical that this tactic will do anything other than make many Americans poorer (and encourage opponents to dig their heels in)
Mock the mixture of egotism and idiocy apparent in his behaviour
Despair at the return to nativist and mercantilist policies
Fear the consequences of blood and soil politics

All of these and more

But it would be naive to expect a President to simply avoid a shutdown 'because'......

I think the point is that there was a deal done that Trump was going to sign but he suddenly did an U-turn in the face of criticism from the right.

My understanding is that everyone thought that the deal was done and then Donny changed his mind.



Very much this. Ann Coulter ripped into him on FOX and suddenly the wall was back on the agenda, apparently non-negotiable. Trump screaming for some bi-partisan votes in the Senate, without realizing that bi-partisan requires both sides to be working together, not one side just tweating into the night.

Considering Pelosi was ambushed she's played him pretty well


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