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Turbogoat wrote:Catching up now on the National Security Team just contradict Trump on virtually every position.
North Korea are still a nuclear threat and will likely continue to develop nukes.
Iran are not developing nukes
Mexico and the SW Border are NOT a major threat
Cyberwarfare and other attempts to influence upcoming elections (and other domestic issues) from both Russia and China are a major threat.

Saffer13
Less about the woman and more about being ok with kiling a baby up until birth.

Dubh01 wrote:

saffer13 wrote:You lot are like a bunch bloodthirsty libs just waiting for a complete meltdown

Speaking of bloodthirsty libs. New York allowing abortion up until the due date.

Jeez you post some shite...

The law also addresses late-term abortions. Under New York's Reproductive Health Act, they can be performed after 24 weeks if the fetus is not viable or when necessary to protect the life of the mother.
"It's about the health and safety of the mother and it's always been the point where the conservatives wave the flag, they want to roll back Roe v. Wade -- this is not gray here it's black and white," said Cuomo.

New York puts in measures to protect access to abortion even if Roe v. Wade is overturned

saffer13 wrote:Mate, you can be ok with a full term abortion. I'm not. Not much to argue about here.

Deadtigers wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Mate, you can be ok with a full term abortion. I'm not. Not much to argue about here.

But just ok with the sexual assualters that create them?

Turbogoat wrote:

Turbogoat wrote:Catching up now on the National Security Team just contradict Trump on virtually every position.
North Korea are still a nuclear threat and will likely continue to develop nukes.
Iran are not developing nukes
Mexico and the SW Border are NOT a major threat
Cyberwarfare and other attempts to influence upcoming elections (and other domestic issues) from both Russia and China are a major threat.

(Apologies for quoting myself, won't happen again)

Trump has fired back at his entire Intelligence apparatus, calling them "extremely passive" "naive" and "wrong", cos he knows better than the tens of thousands of professional intel bods who spend every working minute trying to gather the info needed to actually keep him informed.

BokJock wrote:

Kiwias wrote:Roger Stone on Fox with Hannity argued that the Dems aim is to remove Trump and Pence on faked up charges related to Russia, then make Pelosi president so she can nominate Hillary as VP, then step aside on some faked illness, and
HEY PRESTO
We have President Hillary

Someone has been watching Designated Survivor

Turbogoat wrote:It's a pity all those extremely vocal anti-abortion protesters and activists were so conspicuously silent when it came to all those babies, toddler and kiddies being kept in cages near the SW border.
They claim to care one whole damn lot about the unborn child, but once they're born? You're on your own there, Juan.

Deadtigers wrote:

Deadtigers wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Mate, you can be ok with a full term abortion. I'm not. Not much to argue about here.

But just ok with the sexual assualters that create them?

Why are anti-abortionists all stick no carrot?

Universal healthcare would help the child when they are born? Fix the FMLA, allow women to take longer time of to be home with their kids? make all the costs of daycare tax deductible? Gun control so the kid isn't senselessly killed. I mean just an idea.

Kiwias wrote:

Turbogoat wrote:It's a pity all those extremely vocal anti-abortion protesters and activists were so conspicuously silent when it came to all those babies, toddler and kiddies being kept in cages near the SW border.
They claim to care one whole damn lot about the unborn child, but once they're born? You're on your own there, Juan.

The late great George Carlin nailed it.

Turbogoat wrote:

Turbogoat wrote:Catching up now on the National Security Team just contradict Trump on virtually every position.
North Korea are still a nuclear threat and will likely continue to develop nukes.
Iran are not developing nukes
Mexico and the SW Border are NOT a major threat
Cyberwarfare and other attempts to influence upcoming elections (and other domestic issues) from both Russia and China are a major threat.

(Apologies for quoting myself, won't happen again)

Trump has fired back at his entire Intelligence apparatus, calling them "extremely passive" "naive" and "wrong", cos he knows better than the tens of thousands of professional intel bods who spend every working minute trying to gather the info needed to actually keep him informed.

There (sic; talking about Iran) economy is now crashing, which is the only thing holding them back. Be careful of Iran. Perhaps Intelligence should go back to school!

In remarks on the Senate floor, McConnell said, "Just what America needs, another paid holiday and a bunch of government workers being paid to go out and work for I assume our folks — our colleagues on the other side, on their campaigns."

He added, "This is the Democrat plan to restore democracy? A brand-new week of paid vacation for every federal employee who would like to hover around while you cast your ballot?"

This is also true, and maybe even especially true, when Trump is obviously lying. Even before he banged his own personal left turn and began his full-tilt drive into the desert of cognitive decline, Trump was not an especially nuanced or strategic person. His mind is not what it was, and at its peak it was more of a Magic 8 Ball than a supercomputer. He can’t learn anything because he can’t listen to other people if they aren’t speaking from inside a television; he can’t remember what he hears there because he can’t really care unless it’s about him. These deficits are clear when Trump is extemporizing on furloughed workers cutting deals with the milkman or imagining cartoon coyotes piloting sedans full of duct-taped women across the Rio Grande, but they are even clearer when he tells knowing lies. The former tend to be about other people, and so tend to be both lurid and half-assed; he only really ever applies himself when the lies involve himself.

This gives these lies the advantage of being heartfelt, but it also strips them down. The stories he tells about workers gladly giving up their paychecks for his drowsy racist fantasies and the villains working against him are mostly just sounds he makes to keep himself interested; he might have noticed that they drew louder-than-usual hoots from the seething grandparents and dead-ender rubes at his rallies, but he also might not have. His lies, though, are more elemental. They are never anything more than the opposite of truth. If Trump keeps insisting that he’s not being investigated for his relationship to Russia in gratuitous and unconvincing ways, it’s not because he’s trying to leverage some advanced placement Dealpoint or exploit some hidden businessman’s trick or angle. It’s because he’s literally f**king being investigated for his relationship with Russia and because he very much wants people to think he’s not, and because that’s honestly the best he can do because his brain is an old donut bobbing around in a toilet.

Jay Cee Gee wrote:McConnell really is just a massive piece of shit.

flaggETERNAL wrote:I quickly glanced at an article that says Trump wants his favourite book, the Bible back in US classrooms and for the life of me I don't know if it was a real article or just a satirical piece. We live in very strange times.

Jay Cee Gee wrote:McConnell really is just a massive piece of shit.

flaggETERNAL wrote:

Jay Cee Gee wrote:McConnell really is just a massive piece of shit.

He was nowhere to be seen during the shutdown and now he has something to say. A massive piece of shit indeed.

By rights, McConnell’s tombstone should say that he presided over the end of the Senate. And I’d add a second line: “He broke America.” No man has done more in recent years to undermine the functioning of U.S. government. His has been the epitome of unprincipled leadership, the triumph of tactics in service of short-term power.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 2ff6009316

Waratah wrote:Apologies if posted but this is a great read.

This is also true, and maybe even especially true, when Trump is obviously lying. Even before he banged his own personal left turn and began his full-tilt drive into the desert of cognitive decline, Trump was not an especially nuanced or strategic person. His mind is not what it was, and at its peak it was more of a Magic 8 Ball than a supercomputer. He can’t learn anything because he can’t listen to other people if they aren’t speaking from inside a television; he can’t remember what he hears there because he can’t really care unless it’s about him. These deficits are clear when Trump is extemporizing on furloughed workers cutting deals with the milkman or imagining cartoon coyotes piloting sedans full of duct-taped women across the Rio Grande, but they are even clearer when he tells knowing lies. The former tend to be about other people, and so tend to be both lurid and half-assed; he only really ever applies himself when the lies involve himself.

This gives these lies the advantage of being heartfelt, but it also strips them down. The stories he tells about workers gladly giving up their paychecks for his drowsy racist fantasies and the villains working against him are mostly just sounds he makes to keep himself interested; he might have noticed that they drew louder-than-usual hoots from the seething grandparents and dead-ender rubes at his rallies, but he also might not have. His lies, though, are more elemental. They are never anything more than the opposite of truth. If Trump keeps insisting that he’s not being investigated for his relationship to Russia in gratuitous and unconvincing ways, it’s not because he’s trying to leverage some advanced placement Dealpoint or exploit some hidden businessman’s trick or angle. It’s because he’s literally f**king being investigated for his relationship with Russia and because he very much wants people to think he’s not, and because that’s honestly the best he can do because his brain is an old donut bobbing around in a toilet.

Dubh01 wrote:

Saffer13
Less about the woman and more about being ok with kiling a baby up until birth.

And still posting shite... Can't or don't you read?

Dubh01 wrote:

saffer13 wrote:You lot are like a bunch bloodthirsty libs just waiting for a complete meltdown

Speaking of bloodthirsty libs. New York allowing abortion up until the due date.

Jeez you post some shite...

The law also addresses late-term abortions. Under New York's Reproductive Health Act, they can be performed after 24 weeks if the fetus is not viable or when necessary to protect the life of the mother.
"It's about the health and safety of the mother and it's always been the point where the conservatives wave the flag, they want to roll back Roe v. Wade -- this is not gray here it's black and white," said Cuomo.

New York puts in measures to protect access to abortion even if Roe v. Wade is overturned

Dubh01 wrote:

Saffer13
Less about the woman and more about being ok with kiling a baby up until birth.

And still posting shite... Can't or don't you read?

Dubh01 wrote:

saffer13 wrote:You lot are like a bunch bloodthirsty libs just waiting for a complete meltdown

Speaking of bloodthirsty libs. New York allowing abortion up until the due date.

Jeez you post some shite...

The law also addresses late-term abortions. Under New York's Reproductive Health Act, they can be performed after 24 weeks if the fetus is not viable or when necessary to protect the life of the mother.
"It's about the health and safety of the mother and it's always been the point where the conservatives wave the flag, they want to roll back Roe v. Wade -- this is not gray here it's black and white," said Cuomo.

New York puts in measures to protect access to abortion even if Roe v. Wade is overturned

Kiwias wrote:Good read, Tah. Thanks

RuggaBugga wrote:

Dubh01 wrote:

Saffer13
Less about the woman and more about being ok with kiling a baby up until birth.

And still posting shite... Can't or don't you read?

Dubh01 wrote:

saffer13 wrote:You lot are like a bunch bloodthirsty libs just waiting for a complete meltdown

Speaking of bloodthirsty libs. New York allowing abortion up until the due date.

Jeez you post some shite...

The law also addresses late-term abortions. Under New York's Reproductive Health Act, they can be performed after 24 weeks if the fetus is not viable or when necessary to protect the life of the mother.
"It's about the health and safety of the mother and it's always been the point where the conservatives wave the flag, they want to roll back Roe v. Wade -- this is not gray here it's black and white," said Cuomo.

New York puts in measures to protect access to abortion even if Roe v. Wade is overturned

The corollary of his idiotic position is being pro woman dying or carrying unviable fetus's to term so they can die a slower death.

Lets not even mention all the children being killed by guns eh?

It's like listening to a thick parrot that's just been watching Fox news.

ManInTheBar wrote:I note that Sanders (S) says that God wanted Trump as President

Shame He could not fix the mid-terms too eh?

Deadtigers wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Mate, you can be ok with a full term abortion. I'm not. Not much to argue about here.

But just ok with the sexual assualters that create them?

saffer13 wrote:

Deadtigers wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Mate, you can be ok with a full term abortion. I'm not. Not much to argue about here.

But just ok with the sexual assualters that create them?

What a leap. No, not at all...not that I should have to clarify that but given you went there I guess I need to.

Rinkals wrote: Frankly, given the stupidity needed to vote Trump in in the first place, which pales in comparison with the stupidity needed to think the President is doing a good job (as I saw several Americans claim on a BBC piece last night), I cannot hold out much hope for the generation that Saffer is currently instructing.

Turbogoat wrote:

saffer13 wrote:

Deadtigers wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Mate, you can be ok with a full term abortion. I'm not. Not much to argue about here.

But just ok with the sexual assualters that create them?

What a leap. No, not at all...not that I should have to clarify that but given you went there I guess I need to.

That might have been a little more convincing if you hadn't included your own massive leap in your own post that you quoted.