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The thought of s Democrat-led House has him shitting himself.


Yeah. Nah. It will suit him to have someone else to blame for BAD THINGS. VERY BAD

Nah. Yeah. He'll very likely have a lot of bad things to complain about once the Dems run a few investigation committees and toss a few subpoena's about. Should actually be some shite sticking to him this year. I think there's a feeling that the tide has turned against him. If there's any sort of evidence of him colluding or otherwise he's gone burgers, even if he's not kicked out of office due to some American sense of the sanctity of the President. It's not like it was 2 years ago when everybody was sure there's be a backlash from the right if he was impeached, or where he could still count on support from his own party. His cult persona is being dismantled a piece at a time by all the garbage that constantly coming out.


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From Drumpf's twitter feed

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President and Mrs. Obama built/has a ten foot Wall around their D.C. mansion/compound. I agree, totally necessary for their safety and security. The U.S. needs the same thing, slightly larger version!
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Seems that nobody bothered to tell the neighbours.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... amas-house


He's currently going strong on flat-out easily disproven lies.

He's currently claiming that the Senate Democrats have been blocking 350 nominations from filling their posts.

In a republican majority Senate that does not require a single democrat vote to confirm a nomination...


Yeah, there's so much wrong with this claim no-one really knows where to start.

There's still around 300 unfilled positions, 2 years after Trump settled in

There's currently only 150 odd actual nominees, so for around half of these jobs he STILL hasn't even actually found someone to do the job

Of those 150, around 120 have cleared committee and are ready for votes - but for some reason Mitch hasn't brought them to the floor

Chuck can do nothing to either stop a vote, or block the appointments assuming Mitch can keep his troops in order

Something's up........


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Meanwhile, Mitt's back. This time with ADDED ROMNEY

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46734423


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Kiwias wrote:
From Drumpf's twitter feed

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President and Mrs. Obama built/has a ten foot Wall around their D.C. mansion/compound. I agree, totally necessary for their safety and security. The U.S. needs the same thing, slightly larger version!
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Seems that nobody bothered to tell the neighbours.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... amas-house


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Saint wrote:
4071 wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
From Drumpf's twitter feed

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President and Mrs. Obama built/has a ten foot Wall around their D.C. mansion/compound. I agree, totally necessary for their safety and security. The U.S. needs the same thing, slightly larger version!
13:59 - 2018年12月30日


Seems that nobody bothered to tell the neighbours.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... amas-house


He's currently going strong on flat-out easily disproven lies.

He's currently claiming that the Senate Democrats have been blocking 350 nominations from filling their posts.

In a republican majority Senate that does not require a single democrat vote to confirm a nomination...


Yeah, there's so much wrong with this claim no-one really knows where to start.

There's still around 300 unfilled positions, 2 years after Trump settled in

There's currently only 150 odd actual nominees, so for around half of these jobs he STILL hasn't even actually found someone to do the job

Of those 150, around 120 have cleared committee and are ready for votes - but for some reason Mitch hasn't brought them to the floor

Chuck can do nothing to either stop a vote, or block the appointments assuming Mitch can keep his troops in order

Something's up........


It's almost certainly the case the Democrats have been dicking around time wasting on purpose in many of the nominations put before them, they might observe they're simply getting back at republicans doing similar to them, but it's still childish. That said without doubt many of the delays will also be Republicans dicking around too, even before Mitch is failing to act and the Whitehouse is a shambles, not only isn't the Whitehouse getting the job done properly they don't even seem to understand what's expected of them, quite frankly they should be embarrassed


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piquant wrote:
Saint wrote:
4071 wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
From Drumpf's twitter feed

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President and Mrs. Obama built/has a ten foot Wall around their D.C. mansion/compound. I agree, totally necessary for their safety and security. The U.S. needs the same thing, slightly larger version!
13:59 - 2018年12月30日


Seems that nobody bothered to tell the neighbours.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... amas-house


He's currently going strong on flat-out easily disproven lies.

He's currently claiming that the Senate Democrats have been blocking 350 nominations from filling their posts.

In a republican majority Senate that does not require a single democrat vote to confirm a nomination...


Yeah, there's so much wrong with this claim no-one really knows where to start.

There's still around 300 unfilled positions, 2 years after Trump settled in

There's currently only 150 odd actual nominees, so for around half of these jobs he STILL hasn't even actually found someone to do the job

Of those 150, around 120 have cleared committee and are ready for votes - but for some reason Mitch hasn't brought them to the floor

Chuck can do nothing to either stop a vote, or block the appointments assuming Mitch can keep his troops in order

Something's up........


It's almost certainly the case the Democrats have been dicking around time wasting on purpose in many of the nominations put before them, they might observe they're simply getting back at republicans doing similar to them, but it's still childish. That said without doubt many of the delays will also be Republicans dicking around too, even before Mitch is failing to act and the Whitehouse is a shambles, not only isn't the Whitehouse getting the job done properly they don't even seem to understand what's expected of them, quite frankly they should be embarrassed


A quick glance appears to show otherwis. Many positions have been waiting for Mitch to simply schedule a floor vote for months- most are fairly uncontroversial. Regardless, there's effectively nothing that Democrats can do about them if the GOP were actually serious about filling them


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Should actually be some shite sticking to him this year. I think there's a feeling that the tide has turned against him.

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Fûcking hell.


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Should actually be some shite sticking to him this year. I think there's a feeling that the tide has turned against him.

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You think he's going down in 2019?
Interesting.


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piquant wrote:
Saint wrote:
4071 wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
From Drumpf's twitter feed

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President and Mrs. Obama built/has a ten foot Wall around their D.C. mansion/compound. I agree, totally necessary for their safety and security. The U.S. needs the same thing, slightly larger version!
13:59 - 2018年12月30日


Seems that nobody bothered to tell the neighbours.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... amas-house


He's currently going strong on flat-out easily disproven lies.

He's currently claiming that the Senate Democrats have been blocking 350 nominations from filling their posts.

In a republican majority Senate that does not require a single democrat vote to confirm a nomination...


Yeah, there's so much wrong with this claim no-one really knows where to start.

There's still around 300 unfilled positions, 2 years after Trump settled in

There's currently only 150 odd actual nominees, so for around half of these jobs he STILL hasn't even actually found someone to do the job

Of those 150, around 120 have cleared committee and are ready for votes - but for some reason Mitch hasn't brought them to the floor

Chuck can do nothing to either stop a vote, or block the appointments assuming Mitch can keep his troops in order

Something's up........


It's almost certainly the case the Democrats have been dicking around time wasting on purpose in many of the nominations put before them, they might observe they're simply getting back at republicans doing similar to them, but it's still childish. That said without doubt many of the delays will also be Republicans dicking around too, even before Mitch is failing to act and the Whitehouse is a shambles, not only isn't the Whitehouse getting the job done properly they don't even seem to understand what's expected of them, quite frankly they should be embarrassed


In what way have the Dems been dicking around?

Given they have no ability to block any nomination, what is it that they have been doing to delay the posts being filled?


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In what way have the Dems been dicking around?

Given they have no ability to block any nomination, what is it that they have been doing to delay the posts being filled?


They can still prevaricate and delay proceedings, and yes Mitch can throw more time at the problem again but that doesn't wholly excuse the Dems. If there are no instances of the Dems dicking around then my apologies.

I have a little sympathy with the Dems that this drive to ever more puerile politics is driven more by the Republican party, but for myself I'd prefer when someone else goes low they go high. At this point it feels akin to watching parents of children pointing at their sibling and squealing the other started a given grievance, and for the parent they often don't care, they just want some peace and quiet and for the kids to behave


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In what way have the Dems been dicking around?

Given they have no ability to block any nomination, what is it that they have been doing to delay the posts being filled?


They can still prevaricate and delay proceedings, and yes Mitch can throw more time at the problem again but that doesn't wholly excuse the Dems. If there are no instances of the Dems dicking around then my apologies.

I have a little sympathy with the Dems that this drive to ever more puerile politics is driven more by the Republican party, but for myself I'd prefer when someone else goes low they go high. At this point it feels akin to watching parents of children pointing at their sibling and squealing the other started a given grievance, and for the parent they often don't care, they just want some peace and quiet and for the kids to behave


To the best of my knowledge there are currently no appointments stuck in committee. They're stuck in Mitch Mconnell's inbox, in some cases for several months. And in over half of the outstanding appointments needing to be made, the Trump administration hasn't even submitted a candidate for discussion.

Most of the 300 odd appointments needing to be made are relatively low level, uncontroversial, positions. As long as you can breathe, and don't have a criminal conviction, you usually sail through, just as the names Trump has submitted have done so


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Uthikoloshe wrote:
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Should actually be some shite sticking to him this year. I think there's a feeling that the tide has turned against him.

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:) We'll see. I'd suggest a lot of it will have to do if the GOP figures they're better with or without Trump in 2020 which could depend on all sorts of issues still to come out of the wash. I think the tipping point has moved a lot closer than it was though. If he turns into a liability either due to criminal proclivity or an economic downturn the Republicans reaction will be... interesting.


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The thought of s Democrat-led House has him shitting himself.


Yeah. Nah. It will suit him to have someone else to blame for BAD THINGS. VERY BAD

What difference will it make. He blames everyone else anyway.


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Flockwitt wrote:
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Should actually be some shite sticking to him this year. I think there's a feeling that the tide has turned against him.

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:) We'll see. I'd suggest a lot of it will have to do if the GOP figures they're better with or without Trump in 2020 which could depend on all sorts of issues still to come out of the wash. I think the tipping point has moved a lot closer than it was though. If he turns into a liability either due to criminal proclivity or an economic downturn the Republicans reaction will be... interesting.


Very.
Whether it's a vote for impeachment, forcing a primary run or violent rebellion, it's quite likely that it's going to have to be the Republicans who'll be decisive in dealing with Trump. As they're all so aware that the base of deplorables is more loyal to Trump than the GOP though, it's very unlikely they'll take a stand before 2020, unless there really are pics of Putin fisting Trump while laughing at the dead remains of a 9/11 firefighter and a wounded bald eagle.


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JUST CALM DOWN AND ENJOY THE RIDE.


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Uncletottiloshi is not a fan of Trump, he collects those memes from lovebernie.org and shares them because Hillary.


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In what way have the Dems been dicking around?

Given they have no ability to block any nomination, what is it that they have been doing to delay the posts being filled?


They can still prevaricate and delay proceedings, and yes Mitch can throw more time at the problem again but that doesn't wholly excuse the Dems. If there are no instances of the Dems dicking around then my apologies.

I have a little sympathy with the Dems that this drive to ever more puerile politics is driven more by the Republican party, but for myself I'd prefer when someone else goes low they go high. At this point it feels akin to watching parents of children pointing at their sibling and squealing the other started a given grievance, and for the parent they often don't care, they just want some peace and quiet and for the kids to behave


You just seem to be assuming that both sides must be to blame in some way.

I think there's a natural desire to be seen as fair and balanced, and not to paint one side as entirely wrong. Which is admirable in a way, but also a weakness. Because in results in you making an assumption that Dems are blocking nominations based on no evidence whatsoever. Just Trumps' tweet. Which is exactly why Trump chucks out these relentless lies - because eventually some mud will stick. Even non-Trump fans like yourself will start to think that there has to be some basis in fact, some fire to cause all this smoke. He's taking advantage of the fact that most decent, sane, socially competent people give others some benefit of the doubt.

If it works on you, then how much more will it be working on his base, who will be increasingly convinced by each and every lie he throws at them, and ever more dismissive of the media that report on his lies.


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Whilst it’s true that the Democrats cannot ‘block’ any of those alpointments, they certainly can (and have been) using the cloture process to delay and postpone the voting.

The whole thing is now just a mess of partisanship. Since very few regular people spend much time studying the arcane reasons for these things, is it any wonder that they just rely on what they see on TV from their favoured channel?

We could probably confidently predict that Mueller’s report could show Trump in the worst possible light, and his base would just shrug and say ‘conspiracy’.


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Trump having a proper go at Mattis now. Claiming he fired him.

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For me, the interesting ‘serious question’ here is the fact that McConnell won’t use the nuclear option for passing bills (and apparently, a majority of fellow senators agree with him).

Now there’s yer swamp right there, right?

Or maybe not. Maybe some of these guys see the parliamentary tradition as being greater than short term politics and populism.

Perhaps the resident Trump zeitgeistia can rationalise it all for us?


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Why does Seneca call himself Seneca again?


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Trump having a proper go at Mattis now. Claiming he fired him.

The Donald is all class


It was only a (brief) matter of time before he tried that one on. Only his most deplorable supporters will buy into that one though. It's going to add fuel to the rumblings that are coming from currently serving and retired military though.
So many retired senior officers willing to speak out against Trump is raising a lot of eyebrows. The comments Trump made during his 3hr trip to Iraq are still getting torn to shreds as well. Basically labeling the US military as a mercenary force, then lying to their faces about some 10% raise after nothing for 10 years... that's not been forgotten.


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Because stoicism came along before Tuckerism?


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Trump having a proper go at Mattis now. Claiming he fired him.

The Donald is all class


It was only a (brief) matter of time before he tried that one on. Only his most deplorable supporters will buy into that one though. It's going to add fuel to the rumblings that are coming from currently serving and retired military though.
So many retired senior officers willing to speak out against Trump is raising a lot of eyebrows. The comments Trump made during his 3hr trip to Iraq are still getting torn to shreds as well. Basically labeling the US military as a mercenary force, then lying to their faces about some 10% raise after nothing for 10 years... that's not been forgotten.



Plenty of Fox commenters calling for Mattis, McChrystal etc to get a spell in Leavenworth for treason to the CiC


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is it the most pussy thing ever to "subtweet" Romney by saying that the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was a good thing?


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Because stoicism came along before Tuckerism?


Trump is the least stoic president, actually no, one of the least stoic persons that is presently inhabiting the planet. What is he telling us?


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Because stoicism came along before Tuckerism?


Trump is the least stoic president, actually no, one of the least stoic persons that is presently inhabiting the planet. What is he telling us?


I think Sen’s a bit of a ideology-as-fashion-diet guy. He’s tried the Roman diet, now he’s favouring the stupidcunt diet. :thumbup:


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Why does Seneca call himself Seneca again?



Because stoicism came along before Tuckerism?


Trump is the least stoic president, actually no, one of the least stoic persons that is presently inhabiting the planet. What is he telling us?


I think Sen’s a bit of a ideology-as-fashion-diet guy. He’s tried the Roman diet, now he’s favouring the stupidcunt diet. :thumbup:


His adopted brother Lucius was a syphilis ridden useless cúnt so that could be the message right there.


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At this point I'd just really, really love to see what would make his base turn on him. Funny how the right accused Obama of being a polarising figure. Trump is 10 times worse.


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At this point I'd just really, really love to see what would make his base turn on him. Funny how the right accused Obama of being a polarising figure. Trump is 10 times worse.

The GOP have only themselves to blame for Trump. The smart guys in the Republicans (see Ted Cruz) played wedge politics to the hilt knowing what would give them an opening after Obama had moved on. Then they promptly got guzzumped when dear old Donald hopped on board that sticky train.


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How credible is this report in Newsweek in which a former Mossad agent claims Russia chose Trump as the candidate most preferable to Russia and "ran" him to boost his chances?

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-picked- ... 66fcRAv4JY


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How credible is this report in Newsweek in which a former Mossad agent claims Russia chose Trump as the candidate most preferable to Russia and "ran" him to boost his chances?

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-picked- ... 66fcRAv4JY


Backing the steele report.

Steele is proving to be a man of highest integrity.

Moat people dont know the full story but it is likely several Russian sources were murdered for trying to help steele warn the US.


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I wonder how many of them or their families use ACA and think it is excellent.


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I wonder how many of them or their families use ACA and think it is excellent.


To be fair, the ACA is way better than Obamacare, which is obviously a Muslim-Communist plot bring down America.


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https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1080550400888066048?s=12

This guy captures some of the classic, deranged orange shitgibbon lies at yesterday’s WH press briefings. Be prepared, it’s a doozie


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