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Posted: **Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:04 pm**

Seneca of the Night wrote:This is magnificent. Recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjkBkBje9M

I stopped when the vacant bimbo claimed that Trump has always said this

I've never pretended to be someone I am not.

Utter BS. He pretends to be a devoted Christian but his acts clearly show he knows and understands sfa about Christianity.

Posted: **Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:59 pm**

Kiwias wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:This is magnificent. Recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjkBkBje9M
I stopped when the vacant bimbo claimed that Trump has always said this

I've never pretended to be someone I am not.
Utter BS. He pretends to be a devoted Christian but his acts clearly show he knows and understands sfa about Christianity.

That video is total shite.
Trump has no religious beliefs apart from himself.

If I was Iranian I would be at every garden centre near every one of his golf courses buying gallons of Roundup.

And aiming to write "Trump fucks Goats" on every 18th hole using the Roundup in as big a writing as fits.

Posted: **Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:51 pm**

Seneca of the Night wrote:This is magnificent. Recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjkBkBje9M

alleluyah.

Posted: **Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:11 pm**

Seneca of the Night wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:This is magnificent. Recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjkBkBje9M
I stopped
It is a test. You need to withstand six minutes or you lose.

I lose. Who's the gushing totty at the beginning?

Posted: **Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:15 pm**

The Optimist wrote:If it is war, stay out of it Australia. Trump started it and has a history of screwing over his allies. We want no part of an ally who lies to themselves, doesn't honour their agreements and treaties.

It's like your big brother, who you've always loved and respected, turns up one night sweating and disheveled, and says he's smashed up the local mosque, and asks for the guns. Do you give him the guns, because they're his guns? And do you go with him? What about if you're Scott Morrison, and you belong to a church that preaches war in the middle east is necessary precursor to the rapture? Man, we're fcuked.

Posted: **Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:49 pm**

6.Jones wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:This is magnificent. Recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjkBkBje9M
I stopped
It is a test. You need to withstand six minutes or you lose.
I lose. Who's the gushing totty at the beginning?

I managed 52 seconds, which ended the broadcast at 'he's a loving husband'. In fairness to morons in America they don't do irony and sarcasm, and in part that's a good thing, but it does make it tricky to respond to the utter drivel they spout

Posted: **Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:31 pm**

Seneca of the Night wrote:So you didn't get to the point where the Hispanic dude compared Trump to Cyrus the Great? Now that I think about it, the Iranians need to see that bit.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:24 am**

If true > VTB underwrote most or all of Trumps Deutsche Bank loans - 2 Billion Dollars - it means Russia has owned Trump lock, stock, barrel since before 2016 election. Means Trump backed by sanctioned entity. Means everything if reports > Val Broeksmit's documents are accurate

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:21 am**

Sen, what does your guy tucker have to say about trump killing that Iranian guy?

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:37 am**

EverReady wrote:I watched the first three seconds again.

Am I alone in thinking the chick at the start needs a really good seeing to? Slathered in popcorn butter. With her shouting 'JEBUS". Priorities, men.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:39 am**

The Optimist wrote:
If true > VTB underwrote most or all of Trumps Deutsche Bank loans - 2 Billion Dollars - it means Russia has owned Trump lock, stock, barrel since before 2016 election. Means Trump backed by sanctioned entity. Means everything if reports > Val Broeksmit's documents are accurate

Who cares? I mean we care. Democrats will have a stroke. But no one else in America will. The Republican party will welcome it for all the reasons Trump boosters on here now admire Russia: because it's convenient.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:12 am**

Seneca of the Night wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:This is magnificent. Recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjkBkBje9M
I stopped
It is a test. You need to withstand six minutes or you lose.

It is one of those tests where losing means you actually won.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:16 am**

And this is how Iraq was handed over to Iran on a plate....

The man is an idiot.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:39 am**

La soule wrote:And this is how Iraq was handed over to Iran on a plate....

The man is an idiot.

He's going to get 50% of the oil, best negotiator ever!

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:21 pm**

Seneca of the Night wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:Sen, what does your guy tucker have to say about trump killing that Iranian guy?
I posted the link on the other thread I think: extremely unsupportive. He thinks Trump has done a pretty good job resisting the siren songs of the Washington foreign policy community to now, but something got to him. Took him completely by surprise - he heard about it while on air. The next night he had on his regular anti-neocon guest Colonel Macgregor (who always comes across like he's popped across from Colorado where he runs the top secret Stargate programme) and they both felt that when the Iraqi govt votes to boot the US out of Iraq, the US should take that opportunity.

I think he's right. It's the logical consequence of Trumpism. It's what the Islamists want. There'll be no obvious catalyst for internecine war, until the Sunni v Shiite thing kicks off. America no longer needs their oil. Everyone might shut the fcuk up for a while.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:47 am**

I wonder if Trump's got more drones than Iranian officers? Doubt it...

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:15 am**

I'd be interested to see if Trump has risen in the polls, which, if we are honest, is the sole purpose of this strike.

Trump really doesn't understand Alliances, does he?

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:45 am**

lol

https://twitter.com/freevoice02/status/ ... 7385221120

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:08 pm**

Hello everybody, happy new year to you all, though for those living in the Middle East, this is a time of great uncertainty and risk.

So Trump decided to light up a war in the Middle East, the logical consequence of the administration stance on Iran, which has started with the withdrawal of the USA from the GCPOA.

Killing Soleimani is a gamble, only future will tell whether it was the right one to stop Iran in its tracks. So far, the history had been of Iran provocations, and only half hearted american reactions, until the American - out of the blue - started to stir demonstrations against the Iranian influence in Iraq. This was the first step of escalation, which brought the assault against the American embassy and the attack that killed a US contractor. Clearly Iran believed they could continue pushing and cause Trump to withdraw.

So Trump has brutally changed his stance, and is now aligned with the policy his administration triggered with his election. Or has he not? He is ready for war? As it stands, this is the only option now, unless the Iranians back off. However, I can't see them do so, the government has been humiliated and has to seek revenge, to protect its credibility back home and with their allies.

The only thing that could prevent a violent war to break out is a concerted effort between Americans and Russians to convince Iran to ease off, but that implies that Trump and his administration actually have a political plan for the region, which, so far, doesn't seem to be the case.

Trump may end his first mandate with a war in the Middle East. So much for his promises to leave the people there to their destiny and withdraw US troops.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:18 pm**

Jan 3rd:

President Trump told reporters Friday that the United States had killed Qasem Soleimani, one of Iran’s top military figures, in a bid to “stop a war.” The president, speaking at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, urged Iran not to retaliate.

“We did not take action to start a war,” he said.

Jan 4th

"Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have.........targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD," he said. "The USA wants no more threats!"

Mmmm.... Does he think the Iranian have any choice beside retaliating? As a leading Iranian general put it, the USA have attacked Iran directly in killing Soleimani, there will be direct military retaliation by Iran against US targets.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:25 pm**

Has the terrorist that was killed been elevated to cult hero status yet? Has this pres been impeached yet? I've been away for a while os missed most of the news...

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:28 pm**

saffer13 wrote:Has the terrorist that was killed been elevated to cult hero status yet? Has this pres been impeached yet? I've been away for a while os missed most of the news...

Yep to both those.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:29 pm**

6.Jones wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Has the terrorist that was killed been elevated to cult hero status yet? Has this pres been impeached yet? I've been away for a while os missed most of the news...
Yep to both those.

Ha. I should have clarified. Has the partisan impeachment led to the sitting president being removed from his duties yet?

As for the cult hero stuff. That's sad.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:38 pm**

saffer13 wrote:
6.Jones wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Has the terrorist that was killed been elevated to cult hero status yet? Has this pres been impeached yet? I've been away for a while os missed most of the news...
Yep to both those.
Ha. I should have clarified. Has the partisan impeachment led to the sitting president being removed from his duties yet?

As for the cult hero stuff. That's sad.

It's worse than sad. It's dangerous. Fanatics with guns [who aren't Americans].

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:39 pm**

So POTUS Trump showed them all that he can be a mean mofo if you really push him.

Suggest the Middle East and pink liberals in the USA take note and ease off a bit, mebbe he has potential to be an even bigger mofo...

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:43 pm**

6.Jones wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
6.Jones wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Has the terrorist that was killed been elevated to cult hero status yet? Has this pres been impeached yet? I've been away for a while os missed most of the news...
Yep to both those.
Ha. I should have clarified. Has the partisan impeachment led to the sitting president being removed from his duties yet?

As for the cult hero stuff. That's sad.
It's worse than sad. It's dangerous. Fanatics with guns [who aren't Americans].

Worse than just fanatics. Martyrs. People here don't measure the importance of that component of the Shi'ite culture, exacerbated by the regime in Iran and fed by the years of humiliations Iran has endured since their revolution.

I spent every other week in Tehran in 2016, after signature of the GCPOA, and I could feel, even among the nicest people I met, that the people of Iran feel humiliated by the West, and don't trust us.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:45 pm**

Wilson's Toffee wrote:So POTUS Trump showed them all that he can be a mean mofo if you really push him.

Suggest the Middle East and pink liberals in the USA take note and ease off a bit, mebbe he has potential to be an even bigger mofo...

We'll know based on how he follows up on this. Will it be another tale of one foot forward, one foot backward?

So far, his records with Iran and North Korea are appalling, the situation being more dangerous for the US now that it was in 2016. Let's see what he will have to show to the Americans when election time comes.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:48 pm**

Wilson's Toffee wrote:So POTUS Trump showed them all that he can be a mean mofo if you really push him.

Suggest the Middle East and pink liberals in the USA take note and ease off a bit, mebbe he has potential to be an even bigger mofo...

Drone strike on (I call her) Nancy if she doesn't stop being mean to Alpha Don?

But you said even an even bigger mofo though...nuke San Francisco?

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:51 pm**

BokJock wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:So POTUS Trump showed them all that he can be a mean mofo if you really push him.

Suggest the Middle East and pink liberals in the USA take note and ease off a bit, mebbe he has potential to be an even bigger mofo...
Drone strike on (I call her) Nancy if she doesn't stop being mean to Alpha Don?

But you said even an even bigger mofo though...nuke San Francisco?

You'd need to call on Obama for an unsanctioned drone strike boet.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:56 pm**

saffer13 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:So POTUS Trump showed them all that he can be a mean mofo if you really push him.

Suggest the Middle East and pink liberals in the USA take note and ease off a bit, mebbe he has potential to be an even bigger mofo...
Drone strike on (I call her) Nancy if she doesn't stop being mean to Alpha Don?

But you said even an even bigger mofo though...nuke San Francisco?
You'd need to call on Obama for an unsanctioned drone strike boet.

I know you said you've missed the news but...

(Also I have mentioned previously on this thread, my distain for Obama's bloody and disgustingly indiscriminant campaign)

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:05 pm**

BokJock wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:So POTUS Trump showed them all that he can be a mean mofo if you really push him.

Suggest the Middle East and pink liberals in the USA take note and ease off a bit, mebbe he has potential to be an even bigger mofo...
Drone strike on (I call her) Nancy if she doesn't stop being mean to Alpha Don?

But you said even an even bigger mofo though...nuke San Francisco?
You'd need to call on Obama for an unsanctioned drone strike boet.
I know you said you've missed the news but...

(Also I have mentioned previously on this thread, my distain for Obama's bloody and disgustingly indiscriminate campaign)

I did see that post

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:05 pm**

BokJock wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:So POTUS Trump showed them all that he can be a mean mofo if you really push him.

Suggest the Middle East and pink liberals in the USA take note and ease off a bit, mebbe he has potential to be an even bigger mofo...
Drone strike on (I call her) Nancy if she doesn't stop being mean to Alpha Don?

But you said even an even bigger mofo though...nuke San Francisco?
You'd need to call on Obama for an unsanctioned drone strike boet.
I know you said you've missed the news but...

(Also I have mentioned previously on this thread, my distain for Obama's bloody and disgustingly indiscriminant campaign)

Unsanctioned political kills are an America disease. It's like they're drunk on their own power.

There was a disturbing article in the Atlantic about Obama's drone strikes.

Operation Haymaker took place in northeastern Afghanistan. Between January 2012 and February 2013, U.S. special operations airstrikes killed more than 200 people. Of those, only 35 were the intended targets. During one five-month period of the operation, according to the documents, nearly 90 percent of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended targets. That’s one campaign of many in just one country where drone killings happen.

and...

Numerous reports during the Obama Administration––including at least one by a former drone pilot––describe a pattern in which a missile fired from a U.S. drone hits an area, bystanders rush to the scene to help the wounded, and the drone, still overhead, kills the rescuers.

The United States is no more civilized than Islamists when it comes to attacks on civilian populations abroad, and has never been.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:09 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:11 pm**

Akkerman wrote:

No surprises in that data.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:12 pm**

Yip - John Oliver did this report way back when - goes after Obama and this disgusting practice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4NRJoCNHIs

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:19 pm**

Survey
Do you think Trump should have used a 7 iron on the 12th before he ordered the assassinaton strike?
Do you think he might have been calmer if he hadn't hit the 6 iron into the bushes, where he couldn't lie about it?
Would he have made the same "strategic" decisions about US Middle Eastern policy if he had been on the green in 2?
If he misses a short putt on the 18th to win a match, will he launch an immediate missile attack on ancient Persian archaeological sites?
Should his golf coach be co-ordinating US foreign policy?

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:50 pm**

saffer13 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:So POTUS Trump showed them all that he can be a mean mofo if you really push him.

Suggest the Middle East and pink liberals in the USA take note and ease off a bit, mebbe he has potential to be an even bigger mofo...
Drone strike on (I call her) Nancy if she doesn't stop being mean to Alpha Don?

But you said even an even bigger mofo though...nuke San Francisco?
You'd need to call on Obama for an unsanctioned drone strike boet.
I know you said you've missed the news but...

(Also I have mentioned previously on this thread, my distain for Obama's bloody and disgustingly indiscriminate campaign)
I did see that post

Obama restricted his drone strikes to the military under what was strict operational guidelines, it was Trump who said do what you like to the CIA - and the drone strike rate is far greater under Trump than it ever was from Obama. Yes, the Obama administration went to town on the drone strikes as a substitute for US direct involvement, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level again - I trust your disgust at Trump is duly even greater.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:57 pm**

Trostan wrote:Survey
Do you think Trump should have used a 7 iron on the 12th before he ordered the assassinaton strike?
Do you think he might have been calmer if he hadn't hit the 6 iron into the bushes, where he couldn't lie about it?
Would he have made the same "strategic" decisions about US Middle Eastern policy if he had been on the green in 2?
If he misses a short putt on the 18th to win a match, will he launch an immediate missile attack on ancient Persian archaeological sites?
Should his golf coach be co-ordinating US foreign policy?

In. One.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:59 pm**

6.Jones wrote:
Trostan wrote:Survey
Do you think Trump should have used a 7 iron on the 12th before he ordered the assassinaton strike?
Do you think he might have been calmer if he hadn't hit the 6 iron into the bushes, where he couldn't lie about it?
Would he have made the same "strategic" decisions about US Middle Eastern policy if he had been on the green in 2?
If he misses a short putt on the 18th to win a match, will he launch an immediate missile attack on ancient Persian archaeological sites?
Should his golf coach be co-ordinating US foreign policy?
In. One.

Trump does remind a little of Jim Bowen, though Bowen had the excuse of being pissed

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:12 pm**

So Trump's Middle East policy achievements at the end of his mandate:

Promise 1 : No more troops in the Middle East --> He sending reinforcement and likely to be dragged into a war
Promise 2 : Make the world safer for Americans --> He has just made US troops a target for Iranian retaliation, and is abandoning the fight against ISIS as a consequence. ISIS is rebuilding...

The Iranian have now decided to resume their nuclear program full steam. This may still be stopped militarily though. But could be another terrible result of his Middle East policy.

Trump's North Korea policy : Kim Jong Un is emboldened as ever and the Korean nuclear program has been progressing steadily. North Korea is now more dangerous to the USA than they were 4 years ago.

What if... the North Korean decided to side with Iran in this conflict, with the quiet support of the Chinese?

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