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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:28 pm 
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I'm not that committed I'm afraid, let alone superior. Quite happy to accept your impartiality and consistency.

Trump and Obama have both "interfered" over Brexit and your squeaming comment, imo, lacked perspective.

In general, there seems to be relatively little "mix and match" between "Brexit and Trump" on the one hand and "Obama and Remain" on the other.

Outside interference does however seem to me to be more inimical to the "independent nation-state" values of Brexitists. Mickey-taking about squeaming about foreign interference just sits inconsistently with those stated values. Rationally, Brexitists would support the Guardian's objections.




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Thanks and for the record Obama was a real dissapointment a sell out. Imltho that is.

Yet Hilary is worse than him and Trump.


I agree with this sentiment. I'm not sure if Hilary is worse or would be worse in other ways or worse ways.

My frustration as always is how the media ignore it for someone like Obama but go nuts when it's Trump. The problem is bringing up this frequent point almost makes you sound like a Trump defender why you are rallying against the hypocrisy.


Hilary would not be worse than Trump - I am sure of this.

But I do agree with the free pass given to Obama - the amount of innocent people killed by his drone policy is incalculable (mainly because they didn't count them or if they did they counted them as enemy combatants).

Netenyahu randomly bombs civilians and the left go mental, Barry does it and he is invited to shoot the shit on late night talk shows

I think the Russians did their job well when you think of how Hillary is perceived

I suppose 9 investigations into Benghazi, interminable Whitewater investigations, the conspiracies surrounding Uranium One, Seth Rich, supposed irregularities with their charitable trust (the irony of Trump's own trust is completely lost), not to mention Pizzagate and others. And yes, emails.

All these things were not entirely down to the Russians.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:19 pm 
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Thanks and for the record Obama was a real dissapointment a sell out. Imltho that is.

Yet Hilary is worse than him and Trump.


I agree with this sentiment. I'm not sure if Hilary is worse or would be worse in other ways or worse ways.

My frustration as always is how the media ignore it for someone like Obama but go nuts when it's Trump. The problem is bringing up this frequent point almost makes you sound like a Trump defender why you are rallying against the hypocrisy.


Hilary would not be worse than Trump - I am sure of this.

But I do agree with the free pass given to Obama - the amount of innocent people killed by his drone policy is incalculable (mainly because they didn't count them or if they did they counted them as enemy combatants).

Netenyahu randomly bombs civilians and the left go mental, Barry does it and he is invited to shoot the shit on late night talk shows

I think the Russians did their job well when you think of how Hillary is perceived

I suppose 9 investigations into Benghazi, interminable Whitewater investigations, the conspiracies surrounding Uranium One, Seth Rich, supposed irregularities with their charitable trust (the irony of Trump's own trust is completely lost), not to mention Pizzagate and others. And yes, emails.

All these things were not entirely down to the Russians.


Actually they mostly were down to the Russians as far as them being in the public consciousness and the level of importance, and culpability attached to them. It's the email thing that really did for her and the reality of it is it wasn't that big a deal anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:49 pm 
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It's the email thing that really did for her and the reality of it is it wasn't that big a deal anyway.


My god was that blown out of proportion - I bet Trump wouldn't be able to tell you what the actual problem was with her using an unsecured server....I mean it is not like she invited the Russians into the Whitehouse and divulged classified information in person


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:09 pm 
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It's the email thing that really did for her and the reality of it is it wasn't that big a deal anyway.


My god was that blown out of proportion - I bet Trump wouldn't be able to tell you what the actual problem was with her using an unsecured server....I mean it is not like she invited the Russians into the Whitehouse and divulged classified information in person

It worked for him though. Shouting lock her up all the time as if it was some real big deal.

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According to the Times and a separate report by Politico this week, the president’s son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner, along with daughter and adviser Ivanka Trump, former chief strategist Stephen Bannon, former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, and advisers Stephen Miller and Gary Cohn, used personal email accounts to conduct White House business.

Hillary Clinton called this the “height of hypocrisy,” since Trump spent much of his campaign calling for her to be locked up for her use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state.
https://www.vox.com/2017/10/3/16384126/ ... ner-bannon


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All these things were not entirely down to the Russians.


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Actually they mostly were down to the Russians as far as them being in the public consciousness and the level of importance, and culpability attached to them. It's the email thing that really did for her and the reality of it is it wasn't that big a deal anyway.


She was (and is) an immeasurably shit candidate and most Yanks know this.
Deal with it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:54 pm 
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Outrageous from Corbyn.

Trump may be a plum you as leader of the opposition you need to rise above it.

If he becomes PM after next GE then relations between USA and UK could become complicated.


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All these things were not entirely down to the Russians.


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Actually they mostly were down to the Russians as far as them being in the public consciousness and the level of importance, and culpability attached to them. It's the email thing that really did for her and the reality of it is it wasn't that big a deal anyway.


She was (and is) an immeasurably shit candidate and most Yanks know this.
Deal with it.

She was a good enough candidate to have won without the interference of the Russians so she wasn't a shit candidate.


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Outrageous from Corbyn.

Trump may be a plum you as leader of the opposition you need to rise above it.

If he becomes PM after next GE then relations between USA and UK could become complicated.


He's a protest politician and should not be anywhere near No10! Yet he is. He was happy to wine and dine with the Chinese and some utterly horrendous organisations yet wont go to this...really poor.

Whilst disliked as much as Trezza May, if the Brexit Party and the Tory party take votes off each other, Mr Corbyn could find his way in through the back door...


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If there is no body willing or capable of making Trump face justice then to all intents and purposes he is above the law.

Shame on America


Agreed.

I think people like Barr, as enablers if not cheerleader and co-conspirators, are in so deep that they feel they can't extricate themselves. I guess it would take some balls and a good dose of honourableness to go against the person you regard as your boss.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:31 pm 
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BokJock wrote:
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Thanks and for the record Obama was a real dissapointment a sell out. Imltho that is.

Yet Hilary is worse than him and Trump.


I agree with this sentiment. I'm not sure if Hilary is worse or would be worse in other ways or worse ways.

My frustration as always is how the media ignore it for someone like Obama but go nuts when it's Trump. The problem is bringing up this frequent point almost makes you sound like a Trump defender why you are rallying against the hypocrisy.


Hilary would not be worse than Trump - I am sure of this.

But I do agree with the free pass given to Obama - the amount of innocent people killed by his drone policy is incalculable (mainly because they didn't count them or if they did they counted them as enemy combatants).

Netenyahu randomly bombs civilians and the left go mental, Barry does it and he is invited to shoot the shit on late night talk shows

I think the Russians did their job well when you think of how Hillary is perceived

I suppose 9 investigations into Benghazi, interminable Whitewater investigations, the conspiracies surrounding Uranium One, Seth Rich, supposed irregularities with their charitable trust (the irony of Trump's own trust is completely lost), not to mention Pizzagate and others. And yes, emails.

All these things were not entirely down to the Russians.


Yes give the Republicans some credit too. Some guy I know called her a fake since she was Flotus for doing that bake-off. I was like remember she did that bake off because she was attacked for not doing a bake off like previous Flotus. Shows how warped it goes. She would not have been awesome but her faults were no worse than any male politician. However, huge swatches of white America couldn't deal with a woman that didn't know her place after dealing with a black man that didn't know his place.


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The 4 lads who organised all of that live round the corner from me


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All these things were not entirely down to the Russians.


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Actually they mostly were down to the Russians as far as them being in the public consciousness and the level of importance, and culpability attached to them. It's the email thing that really did for her and the reality of it is it wasn't that big a deal anyway.


She was (and is) an immeasurably shit candidate and most Yanks know this.
Deal with it.


46 percent do. 48 percent disagree with you but because of our joke democracy, those 46 live in more important places.


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The 4 lads who organised all of that live round the corner from me


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UK approval ratings?


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Top trolling by the queen giving trump a book as a gift


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Top trolling by the queen giving trump a book as a gift


:lol: :lol:


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One report said it was an abridged version of Winston Churchill's Second World War history. Well done indeed.


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One report said it was an abridged version of Winston Churchill's Second World War history. Well done indeed.

Tbf, that's the most common one knocking around. The unabridged version is in 4-12 books, depending on edition


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:lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol:


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One report said it was an abridged version of Winston Churchill's Second World War history. Well done indeed.


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Camilla’s wink was the highlight


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The big news is the possible new hairstyle.



Mike, having carried out an extensive and exhaustive investigations, I can only find a used car salesman and a pimp.

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Can’t deny paternity for Don Jr with that do.


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I person could go bat shit crazy posting this shite!


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Top trolling by the queen giving trump a book as a gift


One report said it was an abridged version of Winston Churchill's Second World War history. Well done indeed.


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:lol:


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good news for the orange shitgibbon -someone thinks he’s popular


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I'm very embarrassed that we're allowing this prick into Ireland.

We should have told him to fudge off.

Shame to let that plum in the door.


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What's this about?

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... 9858205696

Nancy Pelosi or her team doxing someone who took the mick out of her or something?


:?

You posted it, try reading it.


I did and articulated what it said to me, but I wanted to know if there was something more or missed here for balance and accuracy.


You articulated what it said to you despite it saying nothing of the sort

:roll:

Alternative facts eh?


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The perils of outrage-hunting amid clickbait.


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This i s a superb takedown of day 1...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... isit-queen


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That really is a weird handshake - Trump and the Queen


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George Nader - the creepy go-between for the Trump campaign and the Saudi/UAE rulers has now been arrested (again) on child porn charges as he re-entered the US.
On his phones he had vids involving kids as young as three years old x(

https://www.thedailybeast.com/george-na ... rn-charges

Presumably any of his non-prosecution agreements will have zero bearing on this sick stuff.


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All these things were not entirely down to the Russians.


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Actually they mostly were down to the Russians as far as them being in the public consciousness and the level of importance, and culpability attached to them. It's the email thing that really did for her and the reality of it is it wasn't that big a deal anyway.


She was (and is) an immeasurably shit candidate and most Yanks know this.
Deal with it.


46 percent do. 48 percent disagree with you but because of our joke democracy, those 46 live in more important places.


Imagine if you lot had something like MMP? lol.


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I'm very embarrassed that we're allowing this prick into Ireland.

We should have told him to fudge off.

Shame to let that plum in the door.


Presumably it is to recognise the Irish servicemen who died on D Day.


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