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#ToriesForAbbott

They'd win about 10 seats with her in charge.
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Kinnock's sprog is such a vile slimy toad.
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Tim. wrote:Comedy gold. :lol:
John McTernan, the former Tony Blair adviser who is on the far right of the Labour party, has just told BBC News that Jeremy Corbyn should go. Addressing the argument that Corbyn has a mandate from the members, he said: “He did not have any mandate to be utterly useless.”
Ha. That's a magnificent riposte.
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Six Labour shadow cabinet members have quit, and more resignations are expected, in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's leadership over the EU referendum.
Heidi Alexander, Ian Murray, Gloria de Piero, Lillian Greenwood, Lucy Powell and Kerry McCarthy have all resigned.
It comes after Mr Corbyn sacked shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn.
Mr Corbyn faces a vote of no confidence following a "lacklustre" EU campaign but shadow chancellor John McDonnell said he "wasn't going anywhere".
Mr McDonnell and shadow cabinet members Andy Burnham, Diane Abbott and Emily Thornberry have given Mr Corbyn their support despite the string of resignations.
Shadow defence secretary Vernon Coaker has said he is considering his position.
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Sefton wrote:
Six Labour shadow cabinet members have quit, and more resignations are expected, in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's leadership over the EU referendum.
Heidi Alexander, Ian Murray, Gloria de Piero, Lillian Greenwood, Lucy Powell and Kerry McCarthy have all resigned.
It comes after Mr Corbyn sacked shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn.
Mr Corbyn faces a vote of no confidence following a "lacklustre" EU campaign but shadow chancellor John McDonnell said he "wasn't going anywhere".
Mr McDonnell and shadow cabinet members Andy Burnham, Diane Abbott and Emily Thornberry have given Mr Corbyn their support despite the string of resignations.
Shadow defence secretary Vernon Coaker has said he is considering his position.
Coaker after a top job then.
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Mick Mannock wrote:https://www.change.org/p/democratic-soc ... Dyt3zDF8Ls

:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:
First signature on that petition is “Brian Imbo”. Hmmmm.
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Apart from the odd issue of using change.org, this would be quite radical if they went for it. They have usually preferred to take over the Labour party and pull it to the left - with the consequential electoral drubbings - than form a new party.

History says they won't.
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We wouldn’t have to fight our own party to do so either as we would be of one voice and one ideology.
These leftists never learn.


All bollocks anyway. Corbyn's lot are still in charge - just with Sir millionnaire Keir Starmer as mouthpiece.
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Given that some of the most high profile things he's done recently were to bin off the top Corbyn acolyte and then enrage Corbyn + co by providing the apology and paying damages for this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611 to the extent that Corbyn is threatening legal action, that comment is spectacularly stupid, message.
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JM2K6 wrote:Given that some of the most high profile things he's done recently were to bin off the top Corbyn acolyte and then enrage Corbyn + co by providing the apology and paying damages for this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611 to the extent that Corbyn is threatening legal action, that comment is spectacularly stupid, message.
Smeggage does spectacularly stupid with its eyes closed. I am surprise you still engage with it.
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JM2K6 wrote:Given that some of the most high profile things he's done recently were to bin off the top Corbyn acolyte and then enrage Corbyn + co by providing the apology and paying damages for this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611 to the extent that Corbyn is threatening legal action, that comment is spectacularly stupid, message.
He binned her off to show how 'tough' he is. Likewise he paid off to try and put the antisemitism to sleep. I'm sure he went and asked permission to do both first.
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message #2527204 wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:Given that some of the most high profile things he's done recently were to bin off the top Corbyn acolyte and then enrage Corbyn + co by providing the apology and paying damages for this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611 to the extent that Corbyn is threatening legal action, that comment is spectacularly stupid, message.
He binned her off to show how 'tough' he is. Likewise he paid off to try and put the antisemitism to sleep. I'm sure he went and asked permission to do both first.
Hmm yes he asked Corbyn's permission to do the thing that has Corbyn publicly and bitterly complaining about it and threatening legal action

of course

that makes perfect sense
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message #2527204 wrote:
We wouldn’t have to fight our own party to do so either as we would be of one voice and one ideology.
These leftists never learn.


All bollocks anyway. Corbyn's lot are still in charge - just with Sir millionnaire Keir Starmer as mouthpiece.
That name carries a lot more gravitas than Flip Flop Boris, Useless Boris, Boris the President Dom's Puppet, or Boris the Clown.
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JM2K6 wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:Given that some of the most high profile things he's done recently were to bin off the top Corbyn acolyte and then enrage Corbyn + co by providing the apology and paying damages for this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611 to the extent that Corbyn is threatening legal action, that comment is spectacularly stupid, message.
He binned her off to show how 'tough' he is. Likewise he paid off to try and put the antisemitism to sleep. I'm sure he went and asked permission to do both first.
Hmm yes he asked Corbyn's permission to do the thing that has Corbyn publicly and bitterly complaining about it and threatening legal action

of course

that makes perfect sense
Makes perfect sense to try and look as though you have the left under control... even if the NEC is still 90% Corbyn lefties.
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:lol: feck me message
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Bimboc69 wrote::lol: feck me message
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message #2527204 wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:Given that some of the most high profile things he's done recently were to bin off the top Corbyn acolyte and then enrage Corbyn + co by providing the apology and paying damages for this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611 to the extent that Corbyn is threatening legal action, that comment is spectacularly stupid, message.
He binned her off to show how 'tough' he is. Likewise he paid off to try and put the antisemitism to sleep. I'm sure he went and asked permission to do both first.
Hmm yes he asked Corbyn's permission to do the thing that has Corbyn publicly and bitterly complaining about it and threatening legal action

of course

that makes perfect sense
Makes perfect sense to try and look as though you have the left under control... even if the NEC is still 90% Corbyn lefties.
You've dodged the point.
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message #2527204 wrote:
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Coaker now a Professor of ‘Slave Studies’......a disgusting subject plus not sure how much you need to learn before getting one.
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https://twitter.com/SpitfireCC/status/1 ... 8935857156 the standard Corbynite response to Starmer these days, in case Message was wondering.

The Corbyn vs Starmer divide is so, so painfully obvious that it genuinely astounds me that anyone even slightly paying attention could believe that Labour under Starmer is taking its lead from Corbyn and co.
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I wil certainly consider voting Labour again with Starmer at the helm.
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Bimboc69 wrote:I wil certainly consider voting Labour again with Starmer at the helm.

That is the problem the left of the labour party have, what is acceptable to them is too far left to be accepted by the general population, and what is acceptable by the general voting public is unacceptable to them. Which means they are ether a protest party with the policies they want, or a party with the potential to govern but with policies the left do not support or not radical enough. (unless there is a seismic shift in politics ).
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msp. wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:I wil certainly consider voting Labour again with Starmer at the helm.

That is the problem the left of the labour party have, what is acceptable to them is too far left to be accepted by the general population, and what is acceptable by the general voting public is unacceptable to them. Which means they are ether a protest party with the policies they want, or a party with the potential to govern but with policies the left do not support or not radical enough. (unless there is a seismic shift in politics ).
I am traditional hard left but hate what Corbyn and his trendy lefty metropolitan twats have done to Labour. I dislike their ilk as much as Blair et al.
Both sides alienated and forgot about their working class areas. Taking their votes for granted.
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Bimboc69 wrote:
msp. wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:I wil certainly consider voting Labour again with Starmer at the helm.

That is the problem the left of the labour party have, what is acceptable to them is too far left to be accepted by the general population, and what is acceptable by the general voting public is unacceptable to them. Which means they are ether a protest party with the policies they want, or a party with the potential to govern but with policies the left do not support or not radical enough. (unless there is a seismic shift in politics ).
I am traditional hard left but hate what Corbyn and his trendy lefty metropolitan twats have done to Labour. I dislike their ilk as much as Blair et al.
Both sides alienated and forgot about their working class areas. Taking their votes for granted.
Many of the Corbyn not seemed to dispise the working class..
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Bimboc69 wrote:
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message #2527204 wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:Given that some of the most high profile things he's done recently were to bin off the top Corbyn acolyte and then enrage Corbyn + co by providing the apology and paying damages for this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489611 to the extent that Corbyn is threatening legal action, that comment is spectacularly stupid, message.
He binned her off to show how 'tough' he is. Likewise he paid off to try and put the antisemitism to sleep. I'm sure he went and asked permission to do both first.
I doubt it. Starmer recently has awakened the Corbynista's on Twitter who want him gone and have a gofundme page to pay for Jeremy COrbyn to sue to Labour pary after Labour paid out to the Whistleblowers. Ironically the poor giving money voluntarily to a millionaire has not entered their heads, which sums them up.

Any examination of Labour right now clearly shows the Corbyn zealots are no fan of Starmer. Yes Starmer deserves criticism for following Corbyn knowing what he and his toxic wing of the party is like, but he's also clearly wanting to draw a line with the Corbyn era and move Labour away from the Hard Left nutso wing who have controlled the party.
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msp. wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
msp. wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:I wil certainly consider voting Labour again with Starmer at the helm.

That is the problem the left of the labour party have, what is acceptable to them is too far left to be accepted by the general population, and what is acceptable by the general voting public is unacceptable to them. Which means they are ether a protest party with the policies they want, or a party with the potential to govern but with policies the left do not support or not radical enough. (unless there is a seismic shift in politics ).
I am traditional hard left but hate what Corbyn and his trendy lefty metropolitan twats have done to Labour. I dislike their ilk as much as Blair et al.
Both sides alienated and forgot about their working class areas. Taking their votes for granted.
Many of the Corbyn not seemed to dispise the working class..
They are the trendy metropolitan working class though. I think C69 is wrong that Corbyn's wing despised the working class, it was a bit of coalition.

Corbyn's wing was two main camps, many working class, "we want socialism" types and a lot of young middle class or rich socialist and anarchist (and oxymoron yes but that is how parts of the hard left are) spoilt child anti-establishment types as well to generalise things to overly simple.

Going back to Brexit you could see on twitter the pro-Corbyn supporters the working class who raged against Starmer for forcing Jezza to adopt essentially a pro-remain stance and those who raged that Corbyn essentially didn't go full in for Remain. They were mostly blindly united against Tories, Red-Tories, Yellow-Tories, Zionists and the media and in denial of Corbyn's clear and obvious flaws and nasty edge. Given time they would have eventually turned on each other possibly over the issue of Brexit if Corbyn reached power.
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eldanielfire wrote:
msp. wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
msp. wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:I wil certainly consider voting Labour again with Starmer at the helm.

That is the problem the left of the labour party have, what is acceptable to them is too far left to be accepted by the general population, and what is acceptable by the general voting public is unacceptable to them. Which means they are ether a protest party with the policies they want, or a party with the potential to govern but with policies the left do not support or not radical enough. (unless there is a seismic shift in politics ).
I am traditional hard left but hate what Corbyn and his trendy lefty metropolitan twats have done to Labour. I dislike their ilk as much as Blair et al.
Both sides alienated and forgot about their working class areas. Taking their votes for granted.
Many of the Corbyn not seemed to dispise the working class..
They are the trendy metropolitan working class though. I think C69 is wrong that Corbyn's wing despised the working class, it was a bit of coalition.

Corbyn's wing was two main camps, many working class, "we want socialism" types and a lot of young middle class or rich socialist and anarchist (and oxymoron yes but that is how parts of the hard left are) spoilt child anti-establishment types as well to generalise things to overly simple.

Going back to Brexit you could see on twitter the pro-Corbyn supporters the working class who raged against Starmer for forcing Jezza to adopt essentially a pro-remain stance and those who raged that Corbyn essentially didn't go full in for Remain. They were mostly blindly united against Tories, Red-Tories, Yellow-Tories, Zionists and the media and in denial of Corbyn's clear and obvious flaws and nasty edge. Given time they would have eventually turned on each other possibly over the issue of Brexit if Corbyn reached power.
There is a big diffrence beyween the left wing of the labour party, who activily push politics and are on twitter, and the woking people who main prioity is their job and living, but are not activily engaged with politics or on twitter.
Looking on twitter will give you the first lot, the large majority do not post on twitter so their views were never considered.
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msp. wrote: There is a big diffrence beyween the left wing of the labour party, who activily push politics and are on twitter, and the woking people who main prioity is their job and living, but are not activily engaged with politics or on twitter.
Looking on twitter will give you the first lot, the large majority do not post on twitter so their views were never considered.
I disagree and agree.

Many of pro-Corbyn's most notorious trolls and accounts on twitter are from a working class (Urban and southern working class) background as are hug numbers who turned up to his rallys, e.g. the infamous Rachel Swindon account. They in fact make up the most blinkered, one eyed and fanatic pro-corbyn messagers. Possibly these thousands fo pro-corbyn nutters may not represent the rest of the working masses as you say.

Now I think the majorty of the membership who joined in 2015 onwards are the hard left middle class you describe. But online it's them plus a strong pro-Corbyn working class fanatic base.
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eldanielfire wrote:
msp. wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
msp. wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:I wil certainly consider voting Labour again with Starmer at the helm.

That is the problem the left of the labour party have, what is acceptable to them is too far left to be accepted by the general population, and what is acceptable by the general voting public is unacceptable to them. Which means they are ether a protest party with the policies they want, or a party with the potential to govern but with policies the left do not support or not radical enough. (unless there is a seismic shift in politics ).
I am traditional hard left but hate what Corbyn and his trendy lefty metropolitan twats have done to Labour. I dislike their ilk as much as Blair et al.
Both sides alienated and forgot about their working class areas. Taking their votes for granted.
Many of the Corbyn not seemed to dispise the working class..
They are the trendy metropolitan working class though. I think C69 is wrong that Corbyn's wing despised the working class, it was a bit of coalition.

Corbyn's wing was two main camps, many working class, "we want socialism" types and a lot of young middle class or rich socialist and anarchist (and oxymoron yes but that is how parts of the hard left are) spoilt child anti-establishment types as well to generalise things to overly simple.

Going back to Brexit you could see on twitter the pro-Corbyn supporters the working class who raged against Starmer for forcing Jezza to adopt essentially a pro-remain stance and those who raged that Corbyn essentially didn't go full in for Remain. They were mostly blindly united against Tories, Red-Tories, Yellow-Tories, Zionists and the media and in denial of Corbyn's clear and obvious flaws and nasty edge. Given time they would have eventually turned on each other possibly over the issue of Brexit if Corbyn reached power.
Now now edl I never wrote that Corbyn's wing despised the working class.
Stop making shit up. I used the words alienated and took for granted, but yet again you go that step to far. Bimboeque behaviour.
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Bimboc69 wrote: Now now edl I never wrote that Corbyn's wing despised the working class.
Whose edl?
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eldanielfire wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote: Now now edl I never wrote that Corbyn's wing despised the working class.
Whose edl?
Typo...

;)
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Bimboc69 wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote: Now now edl I never wrote that Corbyn's wing despised the working class.
Whose edl?
Typo...

;)
Are you saying we can get words wrong or incorrect in our posts then? :P
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It was me who said despised.. I could qualify by saying it was perception, from perhaps the a vocal part of Corbyn supporters, to perhaps part of the working class.
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eldanielfire wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote: Now now edl I never wrote that Corbyn's wing despised the working class.
Whose edl?
Typo...

;)
Are you saying we can get words wrong or incorrect in our posts then? :P
Yes and it can even lead to bans.
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Bimboc69 wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote: Now now edl I never wrote that Corbyn's wing despised the working class.
Whose edl?
Typo...

;)
Are you saying we can get words wrong or incorrect in our posts then? :P
Yes and it can even lead to bans.
I'm just suprised it didn't autocorrect to EDL, you got lucky.
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:lol: imagine if Eldan was Newish
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Insane_Homer wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote: Yes and it can even lead to bans.
I'm just suprised it didn't autocorrect to EDL, you got lucky.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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