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Corbyn's fanatics have raised £170,000 so he can take Labour to court :lol:

Jeremy Corbyn urged to reject donations to £170k 'fighting fund' from supporters posting offensive comments
The former Labour leader is facing calls to hand back some of the funds raised to help him fight a potential legal action

Jeremy Corbyn has been urged to return money from a £170,000 “fighting fund” after a number of his donors denounced Sir Keir Starmer as a “sewer dweller” and claimed anti-Semitism had been used as a “political weapon” against him.

The former Labour leader, who faces being sued by BBC journalist John Ware, has received a flood of donations from left-wing activists through an online crowdfunding page named “Jeremy’s Legal Fund.”

It comes after Mr Corbyn on Wednesday criticised Labour’s decision to pay “substantial damages” to Mr Ware and anti-Semitism whistleblowers who appeared on BBC Panorama.

In a statement, he claimed the decision had been a “political” rather than “legal one” and risked “giving credibility to misleading and inaccurate allegations”.

Mr Ware has now instructed the libel lawyer Mark Lewis to pursue claims against Mr Corbyn, while a number of the whistleblowers are also said to be considering their options.

On Thursday, Mr Corbyn’s North Islington Labour branch confirmed that he was aware of the crowdfunder, writing on Twitter that “Jeremy and his team are now in touch” with the organiser.

However, he was on Friday under pressure to reject donations from those supporters found to have posted a series of offensive comments on the website gofundme.com.


They include a £20 donation from a user referred to as “Jack T,” who claimed Mr Corbyn was “targeted for political destruction by people within the Labour Party working on behalf of the racist State of Israel.”

Another, Barry Hodges, a £10 donor, declared: “It’s time to stand up against false antisemitism used as a political weapon to smear decent people and silence valid criticism of the way Israel abuse Palestinians.”

Mark Russell, who gave £10, said Mr Ware and Sir Keir were “sewer dwellers”, while others described Mr Corbyn’s critics as “animals”, “crooks” and “fascist scum” and insisted the former Labour leader had been “crucified” for trying to “build a more compassionate society.”


Urging Mr Corbyn to reject the donations, Ian Austin, a former Labour MP who now leads the counter-extremism group Mainstream, said: “Under Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership the Labour party was poisoned with anti-Jewish racism.

“So it is incredible that Corbyn, who failed to tackle the poison of antisemitism which spread under his watch, decides this is the issue he wants to fight on.

“Reading through some of the comments posted alongside donations is extremely worrying and shows the scale of the challenge facing Keir Starmer to root out extremism within the Labour Party.

“If Corbyn really wants to take a stand against racism he should go through this list of donations and hand back cash from anyone who has posted antisemitic views.”

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Corbyn donors saying stuff like Israel is still behind it. I still find it amazing Corbynista's are still marching out in their masses to still go and die on the antisemitism hill.
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eldanielfire wrote:Corbyn's fanatics have raised £170,000 so he can take Labour to court :lol:


Corbyn donors saying stuff like Israel is still behind it. I still find it amazing Corbynista's are still marching out in their masses to still go and die on the antisemitism hill.
The fund isn’t for Corbyn to take Labour to Court, but because Ware and the whistleblowers are considering suing him for libel.
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Lobby wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:Corbyn's fanatics have raised £170,000 so he can take Labour to court :lol:


Corbyn donors saying stuff like Israel is still behind it. I still find it amazing Corbynista's are still marching out in their masses to still go and die on the antisemitism hill.
The fund isn’t for Corbyn to take Labour to Court, but because Ware and the whistleblowers are considering suing him for libel.

Correct, JC tried to destroy the labour party from the front but now just his sheer presence will continue to destroy with his cult followers
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Frodder wrote:
Lobby wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:Corbyn's fanatics have raised £170,000 so he can take Labour to court :lol:


Corbyn donors saying stuff like Israel is still behind it. I still find it amazing Corbynista's are still marching out in their masses to still go and die on the antisemitism hill.
The fund isn’t for Corbyn to take Labour to Court, but because Ware and the whistleblowers are considering suing him for libel.

Correct, JC tried to destroy the labour party from the front but now just his sheer presence will continue to destroy with his cult followers
His cult is just as bad as the Blairite cult.
Both sides wanting to purge their opponents is crazy.
The LP is a broad church and so it should be.
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Bimboc69 wrote:
Frodder wrote:
Lobby wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:Corbyn's fanatics have raised £170,000 so he can take Labour to court :lol:


Corbyn donors saying stuff like Israel is still behind it. I still find it amazing Corbynista's are still marching out in their masses to still go and die on the antisemitism hill.
The fund isn’t for Corbyn to take Labour to Court, but because Ware and the whistleblowers are considering suing him for libel.

Correct, JC tried to destroy the labour party from the front but now just his sheer presence will continue to destroy with his cult followers
His cult is just as bad as the Blairite cult.
Both sides wanting to purge their opponents is crazy.
The LP is a broad church and so it should be.
Nah mate, the labour party is supposed to be some right leaning centrist shittip. That's what the people want.... :lol:
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C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
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EverReady wrote:C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
I'm not a Corbyn or Labour supporter everready you massive...bra and haven't voted Labour in a decade including when Corbyn was leader. Nevertheless the Labour Party is not a party for Centrists alone, that's ridiculous thinking.
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AND-y wrote:
EverReady wrote:C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
I'm not a Corbyn or Labour supporter everready you massive...bra and haven't voted Labour in a decade including when Corbyn was leader. Nevertheless the Labour Party is not a party for Centrists alone, that's ridiculous thinking.
I am with you on this. Corbyn Kinnock Blair are all toxic wankers to me.
If I was in Wales I would vote Plaid.
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Are you a bloody Trot Andy!! God I hate trots. Like I think c69 might be one but he gets let off being a nationalist.
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EverReady wrote:Are you a bloody Trot Andy!! God I hate trots. Like I think c69 might be one but he gets let off being a nationalist.
I'm a member of Plaid Cymru and actively work with them regularly. A trot? I don't mind his ideas philosophically but I wouldn't label myself as beholden to any century plus old ideals to be honest.

I do think it would have been interesting if Lenins intellectual mate rather than his enforcer had taken over but C'est la vie.
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AND-y wrote:
EverReady wrote:Are you a bloody Trot Andy!! God I hate trots. Like I think c69 might be one but he gets let off being a nationalist.
I'm a member of Plaid Cymru and actively work with them regularly. A trot? I don't mind his ideas philosophically but I wouldn't label myself as beholden to any century plus old ideals to be honest.

I do think it would have been interesting if Lenins intellectual mate rather than his enforcer had taken over but C'est la vie.
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Trots. Bloody hell. You would think Corbyn would have put you off. We have trots over here and they are genuinely useless pricks. I actually despair of them. Watched an interesting old arena thing on George Orwell and many of the contributors were trots, and some stalinists, and gave him a right hammering. Interesting the tension has and will be there for generations. In that sense what Blair did was impressive
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EverReady wrote:Trots. Bloody hell. You would think Corbyn would have put you off. We have trots over here and they are genuinely useless pricks. I actually despair of them. Watched an interesting old arena thing on George Orwell and many of the contributors were trots, and some stalinists, and gave him a right hammering. Interesting the tension has and will be there for generations. In that sense what Blair did was impressive
I wouldn't call myself a Trot, I don't like labels however if I was to categorise myself it would be a scientific anarcho socialist Judeo/Christian agnostic.
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I'm a proto facist agnostic communist
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Lobby wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:Corbyn's fanatics have raised £170,000 so he can take Labour to court :lol:


Corbyn donors saying stuff like Israel is still behind it. I still find it amazing Corbynista's are still marching out in their masses to still go and die on the antisemitism hill.
The fund isn’t for Corbyn to take Labour to Court, but because Ware and the whistleblowers are considering suing him for libel.
I mixed it up with the stories that Corbyn was considering legal action at Labour over the payouts. Still, Corbynista's, raising money for millionaires with no hint of irony.
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Bimboc69 wrote:
AND-y wrote:
EverReady wrote:C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
I'm not a Corbyn or Labour supporter everready you massive...bra and haven't voted Labour in a decade including when Corbyn was leader. Nevertheless the Labour Party is not a party for Centrists alone, that's ridiculous thinking.
I am with you on this. Corbyn Kinnock Blair are all toxic wankers to me.
If I was in Wales I would vote Plaid.
:lol: Don't forget Brown, Callaghan, Wilson, Foot, Milliband to add to your list.
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message #2527204 wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
AND-y wrote:
EverReady wrote:C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
I'm not a Corbyn or Labour supporter everready you massive...bra and haven't voted Labour in a decade including when Corbyn was leader. Nevertheless the Labour Party is not a party for Centrists alone, that's ridiculous thinking.
I am with you on this. Corbyn Kinnock Blair are all toxic wankers to me.
If I was in Wales I would vote Plaid.
:lol: Don't forget Brown, Callaghan, Wilson, Foot, Milliband to add to your list.
:uhoh:
You need help
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Bimboc69 wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
AND-y wrote:
EverReady wrote:C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
I'm not a Corbyn or Labour supporter everready you massive...bra and haven't voted Labour in a decade including when Corbyn was leader. Nevertheless the Labour Party is not a party for Centrists alone, that's ridiculous thinking.
I am with you on this. Corbyn Kinnock Blair are all toxic wankers to me.
If I was in Wales I would vote Plaid.
:lol: Don't forget Brown, Callaghan, Wilson, Foot, Milliband to add to your list.
:uhoh:
You need help
So who was a good leader out of that lot? Just Starmer?
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message #2527204 wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
AND-y wrote:
EverReady wrote:C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
I'm not a Corbyn or Labour supporter everready you massive...bra and haven't voted Labour in a decade including when Corbyn was leader. Nevertheless the Labour Party is not a party for Centrists alone, that's ridiculous thinking.
I am with you on this. Corbyn Kinnock Blair are all toxic wankers to me.
If I was in Wales I would vote Plaid.
:lol: Don't forget Brown, Callaghan, Wilson, Foot, Milliband to add to your list.
Labour would kill for a Wilson, or a prime Foot.

Possibly even Callaghan.
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Bimboc69 wrote:
AND-y wrote:
EverReady wrote:C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
I'm not a Corbyn or Labour supporter everready you massive...bra and haven't voted Labour in a decade including when Corbyn was leader. Nevertheless the Labour Party is not a party for Centrists alone, that's ridiculous thinking.
I am with you on this. Corbyn Kinnock Blair are all toxic wankers to me.
If I was in Wales I would vote Plaid.
Brown and Starmer?
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People often simper about John Smith being the greatest PM the UK never had.

Had Labour not already descended into pro-EEC idiocy, Peter Shore might have been the leader needed.
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message #2527204 wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
AND-y wrote:
EverReady wrote:C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
I'm not a Corbyn or Labour supporter everready you massive...bra and haven't voted Labour in a decade including when Corbyn was leader. Nevertheless the Labour Party is not a party for Centrists alone, that's ridiculous thinking.
I am with you on this. Corbyn Kinnock Blair are all toxic wankers to me.
If I was in Wales I would vote Plaid.
:lol: Don't forget Brown, Callaghan, Wilson, Foot, Milliband to add to your list.
Wilson was a component PM and Callaghan was victim to Union off scale madness. Foot and Corbyn are mirror images with Millibad propping them all up.

Kinnock fixed the Foot and militant tendency years very well.
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Frodder wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
AND-y wrote:
EverReady wrote:C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
I'm not a Corbyn or Labour supporter everready you massive...bra and haven't voted Labour in a decade including when Corbyn was leader. Nevertheless the Labour Party is not a party for Centrists alone, that's ridiculous thinking.
I am with you on this. Corbyn Kinnock Blair are all toxic wankers to me.
If I was in Wales I would vote Plaid.
:lol: Don't forget Brown, Callaghan, Wilson, Foot, Milliband to add to your list.
Wilson was a component PM and Callaghan was victim to Union off scale madness. Foot and Corbyn are mirror images with Millibad propping them all up.

Kinnock fixed the Foot and militant tendency years very well.
If you watched the documentary - "Labour, the Wilderness years" what struck me is how many of the people Kinnock managed to sideline for making the party unelectable had the stamina for a second attempt 30 years later - Corbyn, Lansman etc. It shows a spectacular lack of self-awareness that having been beaten up by the electorate in the 80s, then having seen what it takes to get elected in the 90s, the same people reverted to the 80s policies and appeared surprised by the outcome.
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The way a Brexit election is being spun to be a rejection of leftist policies is stunning to see.
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dinsdale wrote:
Frodder wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
Kinnock fixed the Foot and militant tendency years very well.
If you watched the documentary - "Labour, the Wilderness years" what struck me is how many of the people Kinnock managed to sideline for making the party unelectable had the stamina for a second attempt 30 years later - Corbyn, Lansman etc. It shows a spectacular lack of self-awareness that having been beaten up by the electorate in the 80s, then having seen what it takes to get elected in the 90s, the same people reverted to the 80s policies and appeared surprised by the outcome.
A bit of that documentary is on YouTube now. But what yous ay only confirms exactly what many of us have been indicating. Of course it's rarely mentioned it was all Ed Miliband's fault.

Miliband came up with the ridiculous idea of opening up the party to the masses imagining a US primary and completely having no idea about the UK electorate or the hardcore left. Coupled with the parties tendency and obsession to have a token nomination for representation (the rights version is having some very self unaware and out of touch MPs whom the world goes "They think they have a chance? Do they live in the real world or even talk with real people?) and it became the cluster fudge we see today.

Starmer may be doing some sensible work to push away the toxic Corbyn project but as you pointed out, it took Kinnock some stamina of two election cycles to do it and Labour's reputation still needed another to recover to win. The issue is now we have seen these past couple of days the Corbyn following is still strong in number. Is it a case this time they will not leave the party and try to exert control via the membership which they dominate.
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AND-y wrote:The way a Brexit election is being spun to be a rejection of leftist policies is stunning to see.
And yet Labour's move to the left lost the election before that and the one before that. I don't think it's leftist policies that are the issue, but Corbyn's particular brand of out there toxic backwards 70's culture of socialism.

Labour have lost the past decade largely on cultural issues. From Thornberry's obvious sneer at a house with an England flag and Brown's "bigoted woman" to the sheer deafness to their old heartlands. Other factors like Rochdale grooming gangs or the be ultra woke or be cancelled online culture only compounds the problem with Labour is top to bottom. There isn't a belief that Corbyn and a segment of the left wants what Brits consider fair and Labour still won't move away from their metropolitan leanings.
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AND-y wrote:The way a Brexit election is being spun to be a rejection of leftist policies is stunning to see.
Whatever the reason, when places like Sunderland and Middlesbrough start sending Tory MPs to Westminster the Left have some questions to answer.
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Corbyn might not have been wrong to be backwards looking, Brexit is backwards looking at that's proved popular with voters. It's the lack of populism/nationalism that Corby fell down on, if we're supposing it's just about gaining power and bollocks to ethics
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A5D5E5 wrote:
AND-y wrote:The way a Brexit election is being spun to be a rejection of leftist policies is stunning to see.
Whatever the reason, when places like Sunderland and Middlesbrough start sending Tory MPs to Westminster the Left have some questions to answer.
It's not a left thing it's a Corbyn thing imho.
I personally agreed with large swathes of the LP policies.
Would I vote Labour?
No. They trashed their heartlands went trendy lefty and had a dicihead in charge who supported the IRA and allowed antisemetism to thrive.

fudge him. No wonder people like Bimbo paid to join a Party like that.
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Bimboc69 wrote:
A5D5E5 wrote:
AND-y wrote:The way a Brexit election is being spun to be a rejection of leftist policies is stunning to see.
Whatever the reason, when places like Sunderland and Middlesbrough start sending Tory MPs to Westminster the Left have some questions to answer.
It's not a left thing it's a Corbyn thing imho.
I personally agreed with large swathes of the LP policies.
Would I vote Labour?
No. They trashed their heartlands went trendy lefty and had a dicihead in charge who supported the IRA and allowed antisemetism to thrive.

fudge him. No wonder people like Bimbo paid to join a Party like that.
Yes - by "The left have some questions to answer" I didn't mean "The left are to blame", I meant "The left have to do some analysis". It may well be that Corbyn (and other metropolitan lefties who (at least seem to) prioritise identity politics over working class advancement are the reason.
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A5D5E5 wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
A5D5E5 wrote:
AND-y wrote:The way a Brexit election is being spun to be a rejection of leftist policies is stunning to see.
Whatever the reason, when places like Sunderland and Middlesbrough start sending Tory MPs to Westminster the Left have some questions to answer.
It's not a left thing it's a Corbyn thing imho.
I personally agreed with large swathes of the LP policies.
Would I vote Labour?
No. They trashed their heartlands went trendy lefty and had a dicihead in charge who supported the IRA and allowed antisemetism to thrive.

fudge him. No wonder people like Bimbo paid to join a Party like that.
Yes - by "The left have some questions to answer" I didn't mean "The left are to blame", I meant "The left have to do some analysis". It may well be that Corbyn (and other metropolitan lefties who (at least seem to) prioritise identity politics over working class advancement are the reason.
I agree.
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Bimboc69 wrote:
A5D5E5 wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
A5D5E5 wrote:
AND-y wrote:The way a Brexit election is being spun to be a rejection of leftist policies is stunning to see.
Whatever the reason, when places like Sunderland and Middlesbrough start sending Tory MPs to Westminster the Left have some questions to answer.
It's not a left thing it's a Corbyn thing imho.
I personally agreed with large swathes of the LP policies.
Would I vote Labour?
No. They trashed their heartlands went trendy lefty and had a dicihead in charge who supported the IRA and allowed antisemetism to thrive.

fudge him. No wonder people like Bimbo paid to join a Party like that.
Yes - by "The left have some questions to answer" I didn't mean "The left are to blame", I meant "The left have to do some analysis". It may well be that Corbyn (and other metropolitan lefties who (at least seem to) prioritise identity politics over working class advancement are the reason.
I agree.


I largely agree but I do have a caveat, I do think Corbyn himself was concerned with the working class. However being grounded in London/Metropolitan politics the coalition of his support is exactly as you two described and Corbyn loved to pander to them. Much like how we know Corbyn was a Brexiteer but he pandered to his Remainer supporters.
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Corbyn, the counter to the Remainer PM who pandered to the leave voters, not that Boris was the first to consider "There go the people. I must follow them, for I am their leader"
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piquant wrote:Corbyn, the counter to the Remainer PM who pandered to the leave voters, not that Boris was the first to consider "There go the people. I must follow them, for I am their leader"
Actually that quote is a great match for Johnson's leadership style. I think it will be the perfect summary of his 'reign'.
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eldanielfire wrote:
piquant wrote:Corbyn, the counter to the Remainer PM who pandered to the leave voters, not that Boris was the first to consider "There go the people. I must follow them, for I am their leader"
Actually that quote is a great match for Johnson's leadership style. I think it will be the perfect summary of his 'reign'.

People probably already know he has little in the way of morals
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piquant wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
piquant wrote:Corbyn, the counter to the Remainer PM who pandered to the leave voters, not that Boris was the first to consider "There go the people. I must follow them, for I am their leader"
Actually that quote is a great match for Johnson's leadership style. I think it will be the perfect summary of his 'reign'.

People probably already know he has little in the way of morals
Or even a political ideology really, except he's vaguely socially liberal. I've actually said this is his best feature as a PM, he'll do mostly what the masses want which is not the worst thing.
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https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status ... 88?lang=en

Corbyn wholeheartedly supports Black Lives Matter

https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/a ... reputation

When asked to condemn Anti-Semistism

“I oppose all forms of racism”.

It applies to the hard left in general

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article ... -the-party

Just shows that the far left and far right are two cheeks of the same arse
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Looks like Corbyn is going to be the rights version of Hilary in the UK
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EverReady wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:17 am C69 was always right. Labour is meant to be about the working man particularly pertinent in Brexit Britain but Corbyn made it primarily about some social issues many of which the working man vehemently disagreed with. Go and find your own party Andy you massive knickers
To be fair I wouldn't entirely blame Corbyn for that. The party had already moved in that direction years before Corbyn became leader. In some ways both the flaws of Corbynista's and Blairite's is both sides seem to despise and be embarrassed by the British working class and a gaping separation on the perspective on cultural issues.
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