Social Media: Who is accountable when it goes wrong?

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Social Media: Who is accountable when it goes wrong?

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Schools across the country are warning parents to keep their children off devices after a live-streamed video of an apparent suicide was shared on social media.
I just got the same warning from my kids' schools in my inbox.

It seems like there are increasing incidents of ultra-graphic violence or damaging material loaded onto digital platforms and the platforms are either ill-equipped to combat it or ideologically opposed to preventing it.

Here in New Zealand on March 15, 2019 an Australian ultra right-winger and steroid and gun freak murdered 51 Muslims. He live-streamed it because he could. There was a flurry of activity by many leaders around the world but nothing seems to have been done, because freedom, and because business, and because free-speech.

To me, Western civilisation is is at a tipping point. There is still such a strong belief in libertarianism and free speech that murders and deaths are now live-streamed to potentially billions of people worldwide and no-one appears to give a fudge. No-one has the nuts to cut Zuckerberg's balls off, or those of that plum from Twitter.

The digital economy is causing mayhem worldwide because legislation is incredibly slow to respond. Facebook, Twitter, TikTok? They are almost faceless. In my day snuff movies were talked about but were they even real? I think they were an urban myth but today you just have to pick up your phone and there they are.

Some people believe we live in the height of enlightened times. I don't think so.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/educat ... cial-media
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Muttonbirds wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:28 am
Schools across the country are warning parents to keep their children off devices after a live-streamed video of an apparent suicide was shared on social media.
I just got the same warning from my kids' schools in my inbox.

It seems like there are increasing incidents of ultra-graphic violence or damaging material loaded onto digital platforms and the platforms are either ill-equipped to combat it or ideologically opposed to preventing it.

Here in New Zealand on March 15, 2019 an Australian ultra right-winger and steroid and gun freak murdered 51 Muslims. He live-streamed it because he could. There was a flurry of activity by many leaders around the world but nothing seems to have been done, because freedom, and because business, and because free-speech.

To me, Western civilisation is is at a tipping point. There is such a strong believe in libertarianism and free speech that murders and deaths are now live-streamed to potentially billions of people worldwide and no-one appears to give a fudge. No-one has the nuts to cut Zuckerberg's balls off, or those of that plum from Twitter.

The digital economy is causing mayhem worldwide because legislation is incredibly slow to respond. Facebook, Twitter, TikTok? They are almost faceless. In my day snuff movies were impossible to view and were they even real? I think they were an urban myth but today you just have to pick up your phone and there it is.

Some people believe we live in the height of enlightened times. I don't think so.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/educat ... cial-media
So you are blaming your kid watching some ugly video on free speech, libertarianism and the digital economy and not yourself being a bit shit at controlling what your kid views.
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Just cancel social media. Its f**ked the world up beyond belief. Its created a generation of self-obsessed brats that can’t take insults or criticism.

Obviously I exclude PR in the above statement given how it enriches all of our lives . . .
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TMAB, mine are fine. They go to good schools. They wouldn't view or spread such crippling criminality. The question is what sort of world have we created that the very worst of humankind is able to be spread to billions of people in an instant, live?
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Muttonbirds wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:39 am TMAB, mine are fine. They go to good schools. They wouldn't view or spread such crippling criminality. The question is what sort of world have we created that the very worst of humankind is able to be spread to billions of people in an instant, live?
Fair enough.

One with a greedy cnut like Zuckerberg in it
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You should write to Mark Zuckerberg and threaten to wage a campaign of emails to people who will unfailingly ignore you.
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This thread is terrifying. I mean, Muttonmong is a parent???
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Leinsterman wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:26 am This thread is terrifying. I mean, Muttonmong is a parent???
:lol: :lol: :lol:

The same hateful weirdo who said on social media that he wanted to see Australia burn is pearl clutching about online nastiness
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I agree about Zuckerberg, but for different reasons.

This creep is preparing the US public for a corrupt US election result.
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Leinsterman wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:26 am This thread is terrifying. I mean, Muttonmong is a parent???
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Not surprised to see Muttonbird is using awful behaviour as an excuse to post an anti free speech tirade .

The far left seem totally opposed to free speech these days, there was a time when the exact opposite was true.

Anyway back to the op , is saying you want to see Australia burn hate speech?
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I think it's a much broarder issue than violence. The Internet was supposed to usher in a second enlightenment. With the entirety of human knowledge at our fingertips, psuedo-science would become a thing of the past! Right? Wrong. I believe more people believe the earth is flat today than they did a hundred years ago. Absurd climate denialism, vaccine fear-mongering and various other sorts of ridiculous conspiracy theories rule the air-waves.

What do you do? Censor everything? That's obviously a reasonable answer when it comes to acts of gross violence, no matter who it is doing it, the white right-wing fascist or the brown right-wing religious zealot. But when it comes to seemingly more benign acts of just spreading around total horseshit, then I dunno.
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Jim Lahey wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:39 am Just cancel social media. Its f**ked the world up beyond belief. Its created a generation of self-obsessed brats that can’t take insults or criticism.

Obviously I exclude PR in the above statement given how it enriches all of our lives . . .
Quite right. We thrive on insults and criticism.
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I have come to the conclusion that online anonymity & absolute privacy is harming our society

Better / more rigorous verification is the only way to go
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P in VG wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:53 pm I have come to the conclusion that online anonymity & absolute privacy is harming our society

Better / more rigorous verification is the only way to go
I'd agree with that, Mr P in VG, if in fact that is your REAL name!
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The democratisation of knowledge is a wonderful thing in isolation. The isolation bit is the toughie. For me, the benefit of putting so much information in the hands of so many people has not in any way been matched by our ability to educate people on how to critically analyse and use constructively that information. That negative far outweighs the positive for me.

We have cluttered far too many sharp minds, convinced too many f**king morons they are smart and validated the absurd notion that everyone's opinion is of equal value.

This is for the greater good? My hole.
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