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happyhooker wrote:

happyhooker wrote:Well bloody hell, a new favourite kellerbier. Brauerei zehendner, monchsambacher lagerbier....

Just what I needed after slicing up an old steel fire escape in the sun all day.

Although augustiner helles is working superbly today.

I'm really getting back into (decent) lagers and sours this summer. Any exotic/niche ones that I should try?

happyhooker wrote:

happyhooker wrote:Well bloody hell, a new favourite kellerbier. Brauerei zehendner, monchsambacher lagerbier....

Just what I needed after slicing up an old steel fire escape in the sun all day.

Although augustiner helles is working superbly today.

I'm really getting back into (decent) lagers and sours this summer. Any exotic/niche ones that I should try?

Diego wrote:

happyhooker wrote:

happyhooker wrote:Well bloody hell, a new favourite kellerbier. Brauerei zehendner, monchsambacher lagerbier....

Just what I needed after slicing up an old steel fire escape in the sun all day.

Although augustiner helles is working superbly today.

I'm really getting back into (decent) lagers and sours this summer. Any exotic/niche ones that I should try?

Harp

happyhooker wrote:

happyhooker wrote:Well bloody hell, a new favourite kellerbier. Brauerei zehendner, monchsambacher lagerbier....

Just what I needed after slicing up an old steel fire escape in the sun all day.

Although augustiner helles is working superbly today.

I'm really getting back into (decent) lagers and sours this summer. Any exotic/niche ones that I should try?

dinsdale wrote:

happyhooker wrote:

happyhooker wrote:Well bloody hell, a new favourite kellerbier. Brauerei zehendner, monchsambacher lagerbier....

Just what I needed after slicing up an old steel fire escape in the sun all day.

Although augustiner helles is working superbly today.

I'm really getting back into (decent) lagers and sours this summer. Any exotic/niche ones that I should try?

Augustiner Helles? That's straight to the tippy top of the lager world. I get a crate every few months.

Maybe give their Edelstoff a whirl.

happyhooker wrote:

happyhooker wrote:Well bloody hell, a new favourite kellerbier. Brauerei zehendner, monchsambacher lagerbier....

Just what I needed after slicing up an old steel fire escape in the sun all day.

Although augustiner helles is working superbly today.

I'm really getting back into (decent) lagers and sours this summer. Any exotic/niche ones that I should try?

JPNZ wrote:

usermame wrote:

mr bungle wrote:They're pretend craft,

That seems a ludicrous label to apply to a beer you haven't even tasted. Nor have you defined 'craft', apart from saying it has a certain (undefined) style of packaging.

Out of curiosity, is Moa Dry Hopped Pilsner 'craft'? Or Mac's Miss Conduct?

I'll take this even though its not directed at me. I'm a beer snob, I know what I like and will happily pay $10 to $20 a pint for limited edition craft beer in a store and that plus more per drink in a pub. After all your paying for taste and enjoyment not some same old run of the mill beer.

Craft beer is defined as "a beer made in a traditional or non-mechanized way by a small brewery." so when beer aficionados say a brewery is pretend craft its a big brewery starting a brand or buying a brand that gives the impression of being small / craft like.

BRB, Mac's, Tuatara, Founders, Harringtons, Emersons, black dog, monteiths, panhead are all pretend craft in my opinion, Big brands trying to be craft. Majority of these beers are middle of the road equivilents to speights, lion red and tui just trying to be fancier.

Ive said before your obviously price driven and thats fine, if $2 beers spins your wheels then go for it, just know there are plenty of amazing beers around NZ from brewers making some amazing stuff. Go try anything from:

Behemoth
Garage Project
Liberty Brewing
Epic Brewing
Parrotdog
McLeods
Deep Creek
8 Wired
Three Boys
Sawmill
Renaissance
Bach Brewing
Funk estate

NEIPA (hazy IPA's) are the current golden child of NZ brewing followed by IPA's and WCIPA's. Porters and stouts are great in winter too


Bouncing Czech is a little hoppy for a Pilsner, if you like that taste try an Epic Armageddon or Behemoth Lid Ripper or any of the above brands IPA's

JPNZ wrote:Garage Project have been doing some stunning beers lately and this Fresh IPA is one of their best IMO

mikerob wrote:Was over in Belfast for the weekend and did a food tour. The tour guide worked for boundarybrewing.coop and he gave a bit of an overview of the craft scene in NI. He said it is really being held back by the restrictive licensing for pubs there. It is really expensive to have a license so then Diageo will subsidise the license, pay for Sky etc. but the pub must sell their beers. The brewery couldn't afford the license for a tap-room but the license permits a pub to serve drinks "off site" for a certain number of days a year. Another pub loans them their off site days so they can run a tap room once a month or so.

They were thinking of calling one of their beers Marching Saison but decided it could be a bit too edgy... (NI joke)

happyhooker wrote:In other news, kernel will be opening a tap room again in an arch next to the brewery.

I'll let you know when it's open, we start work on Wednesday

unseenwork wrote:

happyhooker wrote:In other news, kernel will be opening a tap room again in an arch next to the brewery.

I'll let you know when it's open, we start work on Wednesday

Very nice. One of these days I will venture outside of Bristol again and make my way down to Bermondsey. Though possibly the brewery I'm most curious about in London at the moment is Bohem who do all the Czech style lagers, as well as Boxcar to a certain extent.

unseenwork wrote:

happyhooker wrote:In other news, kernel will be opening a tap room again in an arch next to the brewery.

I'll let you know when it's open, we start work on Wednesday

Very nice. One of these days I will venture outside of Bristol again and make my way down to Bermondsey. Though possibly the brewery I'm most curious about in London at the moment is Bohem who do all the Czech style lagers, as well as Boxcar to a certain extent.

dinsdale wrote:

unseenwork wrote:

happyhooker wrote:In other news, kernel will be opening a tap room again in an arch next to the brewery.

I'll let you know when it's open, we start work on Wednesday

Very nice. One of these days I will venture outside of Bristol again and make my way down to Bermondsey. Though possibly the brewery I'm most curious about in London at the moment is Bohem who do all the Czech style lagers, as well as Boxcar to a certain extent.

I have to say of the Bohem beers I have tried so far, none have made me want to have a second one sadly.

I will persevere and hope they have ones I like.

happyhooker wrote:

dinsdale wrote:

unseenwork wrote:

happyhooker wrote:In other news, kernel will be opening a tap room again in an arch next to the brewery.

I'll let you know when it's open, we start work on Wednesday

Very nice. One of these days I will venture outside of Bristol again and make my way down to Bermondsey. Though possibly the brewery I'm most curious about in London at the moment is Bohem who do all the Czech style lagers, as well as Boxcar to a certain extent.

I have to say of the Bohem beers I have tried so far, none have made me want to have a second one sadly.

I will persevere and hope they have ones I like.

Do, they are good. The first I had from them was a smoked lager that rather put me off, but a mate dragged me up there and I'm glad he did

unseenwork wrote:

happyhooker wrote:

dinsdale wrote:

unseenwork wrote:

happyhooker wrote:In other news, kernel will be opening a tap room again in an arch next to the brewery.

I'll let you know when it's open, we start work on Wednesday

Very nice. One of these days I will venture outside of Bristol again and make my way down to Bermondsey. Though possibly the brewery I'm most curious about in London at the moment is Bohem who do all the Czech style lagers, as well as Boxcar to a certain extent.

I have to say of the Bohem beers I have tried so far, none have made me want to have a second one sadly.

I will persevere and hope they have ones I like.

Do, they are good. The first I had from them was a smoked lager that rather put me off, but a mate dragged me up there and I'm glad he did

I'm glad to hear, Czech lager's always been a favourite of mine and no one else has really been giving it a go. I'm also glad to see people doing something different to a suite of pales of varying strengths, getting quite fatigued of breweries along those lines. It's sort of epitomised by Left Handed Giant who just opened their new brewpub here, and while all their beer is perfectly fine to rather good, boy can do I struggle to get excited about any of it.

happyhooker wrote:Cf verdant, deya..... the list is long.

Quite taken with pressure drop's rock rivers trees atmo and mikkeller's dry hopped Nelson sachin barrell aged in chardonnay barrels is very good too.

SaintK wrote:

happyhooker wrote:Cf verdant, deya..... the list is long.

Quite taken with pressure drop's rock rivers trees atmo and mikkeller's dry hopped Nelson sachin barrell aged in chardonnay barrels is very good too.

That's good to hear, just ordered some from them.
I see one of Verdant's collabs with P Drop, an Apricot DIPA had to be recalled as the puree they used started coagulating in the can!!!

Looking to try and get to Tottenham again 24th August. That's the bank holiday weekend but looks like we've got passes! Hope to get to The Experiment that day as well.

happyhooker wrote:

SaintK wrote:

happyhooker wrote:Cf verdant, deya..... the list is long.

Quite taken with pressure drop's rock rivers trees atmo and mikkeller's dry hopped Nelson sachin barrell aged in chardonnay barrels is very good too.

That's good to hear, just ordered some from them.
I see one of Verdant's collabs with P Drop, an Apricot DIPA had to be recalled as the puree they used started coagulating in the can!!!

Looking to try and get to Tottenham again 24th August. That's the bank holiday weekend but looks like we've got passes! Hope to get to The Experiment that day as well.

Yea, it was delicious on draught!!

I'll see if I'm around, although with dad it's hard to tell at the moment

Hellraiser wrote:Was at Hagstravaganza in Sligo this weekend. Oh good fúck am I getting too old for this shit.

happyhooker wrote:

Hellraiser wrote:Was at Hagstravaganza in Sligo this weekend. Oh good fúck am I getting too old for this shit.

A few of my mates were there. They're destroyed.

Hellraiser wrote:

happyhooker wrote:

Hellraiser wrote:Was at Hagstravaganza in Sligo this weekend. Oh good fúck am I getting too old for this shit.

A few of my mates were there. They're destroyed.

Woke up topless in a pool of coke on Sunday morning with no memory of anything after about 11pm. No idea how the fúck I got back to the Airbnb but one of the lads said I almost took the knocker off the front door, failed on the first attempt to enter once he opened it, and said nothing other than "fúckin' women" before stumbling in.

JPNZ wrote:The beer list for Beervana is out

https://beervana.co.nz/2019-beer-list

470 beers pouring from 75 breweries, the most they have ever had. Going to be a massive weekend

happyhooker wrote:In other news, kernel will be opening a tap room again in an arch next to the brewery.

I'll let you know when it's open, we start work on Wednesday

mikerob wrote:

happyhooker wrote:In other news, kernel will be opening a tap room again in an arch next to the brewery.

I'll let you know when it's open, we start work on Wednesday

Thats cool. I wasn't sure why they stopped the taproom a couple of years ago. Was it facilities or they didn't fancy the hassle of serving punters?

I really like the Bermondsey beer mile and it is my go to place for taking visitors to London but I can't help but wondering if it will get too popular. Too many pissed people, too many groups of lairy blokes. I'm just pessimistic that good things go shit eventually.

mikerob wrote:That’s interesting about profit margins - I didn’t know the numbers.

Brew by Numbers have done a nice job with their taproom and host events during the week as well - I’ve been to a couple of cheese and beer tastings there.

Sundays in Bermondsey are more chilled than Saturdays. I haven’t actually seen any trouble from the stags but there can be a fine line going from boisterous to annoying to unpleasant.

dinsdale wrote:

mikerob wrote:That’s interesting about profit margins - I didn’t know the numbers.

Brew by Numbers have done a nice job with their taproom and host events during the week as well - I’ve been to a couple of cheese and beer tastings there.

Sundays in Bermondsey are more chilled than Saturdays. I haven’t actually seen any trouble from the stags but there can be a fine line going from boisterous to annoying to unpleasant.

A friend has a small brewery and a very small pub. He sells a barrel for about £100 wholesale, or £4.50 a pint at his pub (£320 ish) Obviously there are extra overheads of a property but you are cutting out a lot of middlemen.

I enjoyed the Moor taproom last time I was in Bermondsey.

happyhooker wrote:

dinsdale wrote:

mikerob wrote:That’s interesting about profit margins - I didn’t know the numbers.

Brew by Numbers have done a nice job with their taproom and host events during the week as well - I’ve been to a couple of cheese and beer tastings there.

Sundays in Bermondsey are more chilled than Saturdays. I haven’t actually seen any trouble from the stags but there can be a fine line going from boisterous to annoying to unpleasant.

A friend has a small brewery and a very small pub. He sells a barrel for about £100 wholesale, or £4.50 a pint at his pub (£320 ish) Obviously there are extra overheads of a property but you are cutting out a lot of middlemen.

I enjoyed the Moor taproom last time I was in Bermondsey.

Thank you.

Which brewery if you don't mind saying?

dinsdale wrote:

happyhooker wrote:

dinsdale wrote:

mikerob wrote:That’s interesting about profit margins - I didn’t know the numbers.

Brew by Numbers have done a nice job with their taproom and host events during the week as well - I’ve been to a couple of cheese and beer tastings there.

Sundays in Bermondsey are more chilled than Saturdays. I haven’t actually seen any trouble from the stags but there can be a fine line going from boisterous to annoying to unpleasant.

A friend has a small brewery and a very small pub. He sells a barrel for about £100 wholesale, or £4.50 a pint at his pub (£320 ish) Obviously there are extra overheads of a property but you are cutting out a lot of middlemen.

I enjoyed the Moor taproom last time I was in Bermondsey.

Thank you.

Which brewery if you don't mind saying?

Brightwater. More trad than the ones you usually deal with but local to me.