NBA season 2020/21 - Dec 22 start date

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:20 am

Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:36 am
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:59 am This is going to be such an interesting draft. I feel like I know the name of so many prospects (more than usual) but, like everyone else, I have no idea on how to rank them...

I think(?) I'd be over the moon if the Pelicans or Wizards managed to land Onyeka Okongwu but he won't be available at 9 or 13...or maybe he will...

Sounds like the Wolves don't really want to be no.1... They might take Wiseman and hope someone trades for him later?

Anthony Edwards attitude has been questioned. He sounds like a guy who is just in it for the paycheck and doesn't have much of a competitive drive. But then "attitude assessments" can be overblown...

LaMelo?? A lot of potential (like Lonzo) IF he can improve his shot etc. IF he can finish at the rim (Lonzo still can't)
LaMelo is a bit taller a bit more athletic and a lot longer than Lonzo which should help in that regard, tbf.

Warriors are super interesting to me - Wiseman would be a good fit for what they need now as well as being a guy who could help the transition from the Steph/Klay/Draymond era, but there's gotta be a good chance they trade the pick (possibly with Wiggins) for a player that better helps them win this season. Though there's worrying news about a Klay injury, which might affect their decision.

Everyone keeps penciling in Wiseman to GSW, but I'm just not sure he's really their type. I think they're quite happy to have a small (read: 6'9") center who can come out on the perimeter, rather than a somewhat lumbering behemoth who, while very athletic for his size, still moves like a seven footer.

I might be a sucker but I think their raving about Avdija was sincere. I think they want someone who's going to make plays and get the ball to their great shooters. And even if the Splash Bros. days are numbered, I don't see them abandoning that style of play.

On the other hand Woj just tweeted that GS is "targeting" Wiseman at 2, so I guess that's that.

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:20 am

boring so far... 1. Edwards 2. Wiseman 3. Ball...

ESPN on the TV still havent got to the 2nd pick yet, is it slow? Or is Woj jumping the gun way too much

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:29 am

Saw something about Edwards saying that he basically wasn't that into basketball.

Does seem thick as a brick tbh, even by NBA standards.

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:33 am

First big surprise of the night with Chicago. Wizards twitter poo-pooed taking him at 9 but what does anyone really know in this draft

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:35 am

Woj tweeting the Cavs are desperately trying to flip the 5th pick...

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:41 am

Anyway, re: Edwards lack of passion, you can't help but worry it's Wiggins all over again for the Wolves.

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am

The Wizards path to Okongwu at 9 is opening up

These next few teams are expected to go backcourt....Who the fudge knows what the knicks will do at 8 tho

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am

fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:41 am Anyway, re: Edwards lack of passion, you can't help but worry it's Wiggins all over again for the Wolves.

Allen Iverson was like that when he was young and look how he turned out

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:43 am

fudge the Hawks!

The Wizards better not take Obbi Toppin (c'mon Knicks)

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:45 am

vintage_cox wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am
fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:41 am Anyway, re: Edwards lack of passion, you can't help but worry it's Wiggins all over again for the Wolves.
Allen Iverson was like that when he was young and look how he turned out

When did Allen Iverson lack passion?

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:49 am

Did not see that coming from the Hawks

What exactly is the plan considering they just traded for Clint Capela

One of them (or John Collins) is getting traded

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:53 am

fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:45 am
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am
fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:41 am Anyway, re: Edwards lack of passion, you can't help but worry it's Wiggins all over again for the Wolves.
Allen Iverson was like that when he was young and look how he turned out
When did Allen Iverson lack passion?

Dunno about passion. People used to worry about AI being distracted by wanting a rap career - I was referring to that article you posted

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:57 am

I think it's all overblown

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:58 am

That's such a knicks pick

Toppin might be very close to his ceiling already... Fans will be mad they didn't take Haliburton

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:00 am

vintage_cox wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:53 am
fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:45 am
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am
fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:41 am Anyway, re: Edwards lack of passion, you can't help but worry it's Wiggins all over again for the Wolves.
Allen Iverson was like that when he was young and look how he turned out
When did Allen Iverson lack passion?
Dunno about passion. People used to worry about AI being distracted by wanting a rap career - I was referring to that article you posted

Oh ok. For me the main take away from the article was "I can't watch basketball" and "I'm still not really into it"

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:05 am

Deni to the Wizards, fudge me the knicks are dumb

Haliburton or Vassell might fall to the Pels!! What to expect from the Kangz right before us???

Kahu · Post by **Kahu** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:07 am

fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:00 am
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:53 am
fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:45 am
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am
fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:41 am Anyway, re: Edwards lack of passion, you can't help but worry it's Wiggins all over again for the Wolves.
Allen Iverson was like that when he was young and look how he turned out
When did Allen Iverson lack passion?
Dunno about passion. People used to worry about AI being distracted by wanting a rap career - I was referring to that article you posted
Oh ok. For me the main take away from the article was "I can't watch basketball" and "I'm still not really into it"

That and he sounds dumber than JR Smith

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:15 am

Boo Spurs

They ruin everything

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:17 am

Damn. Great pick Kings (hoped they wouldn't do it with their current guards)

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:19 am

Trade it Griff...

We are definitely not keeping all these guards...

Jay Cee Gee · Post by **Jay Cee Gee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:42 am

OKC have traded up (giving up a couple of picks!!!!!) to draft this guy

He's supposed to have an enormous upside but could also be a complete bust if he doesn't develop physically. If Adams is still around, he's going to have walk on eggshells in practice against him cause he could easily just break him in half.

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:45 am

Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:42 am OKC have traded up (giving up a couple of picks!!!!!) to draft this guy

He's supposed to have an enormous upside but could also be a complete bust if he doesn't develop physically. If Adams is still around, he's going to have walk on eggshells in practice against him cause he could easily just break him in half.

Yea he was discussed for the Wizards in some mocks
Some think he's Dragan Bender 2.0

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:47 am

Yeah I read about that guy. You get him on an Oklahoman diet (read: 90% pork) and put him in the weight room, and he should be fine. Slavs are tough.

Jay Cee Gee · Post by **Jay Cee Gee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:49 am

fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:47 am Yeah I read about that guy. You get him on an Oklahoman diet (read: 90% pork) and put him in the weight room, and he should be fine. Slavs are tough.

Steve can provide some beef

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:53 am

I remember reading an article once about his amazing eating abilities.

You know you can eat when Americans are taken aback by the sheer volume of your meals.

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:02 am

This point guard merry-go-round is crazy

Rubio back where it all began. Rubio, Russell, Beasley (criminal charges pending) and Edwards looks solid
What happens to Culver? They played him at PG a lot last year...

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:10 am

Kennard to the Clips, Shamet to the Nets

Kennard has borderline All-Star potential IMO. Glad he's out of the East as he murdered the Pacers a few times.

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:11 am

Pelicans now have 5 Point guards:
Lonzo
Bledsoe
Hill
NAW
Kira Lewis Jr

No idea who is there opening night. Wonder who Stan van Gundy likes

goeagles · Post by **goeagles** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:16 am

Great pick from the Kings. So nice to have a GM who picks guys who can actually play basketball and not based on how athletic they are.

Wiz fans are excited about Deni but I've watched him a lot and he's overrated IMO. I'm not even certain he's the best Israeli player in the draft.

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:16 am

Miami just drafted a dude named Precious

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:23 am

goeagles wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:16 am Great pick from the Kings. So nice to have a GM who picks guys who can actually play basketball and not based on how athletic they are.

Wiz fans are excited about Deni but I've watched him a lot and he's overrated IMO. I'm not even certain he's the best Israeli player in the draft.

Yea I'm not sure how Deni fits assuming they roll with Wall and Beal. He can't shoot well and it sounds like he needs a lot of touches to be effective. And the frontcourt is swiss cheese and that won't be helped moving Hachimura to the 4

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:25 am

lol if the Pels take Hampton! Let's get nuts

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:26 am

goeagles wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:16 am Great pick from the Kings. So nice to have a GM who picks guys who can actually play basketball and not based on how athletic they are.

Wiz fans are excited about Deni but I've watched him a lot and he's overrated IMO. I'm not even certain he's the best Israeli player in the draft.

Yooooo welcome back Goey

Nice to see Israel putting out some prospects, I saw the other day that their youth teams have had some success in recent years.

I presume the other player is that PG?

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:28 am

But wait, he's being traded to Denver for "a future pick"

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:30 am

Klay update... They think it's his achilles. Scan tomorrow

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:57 am

Pacers making no moves. We were rumored to be in the Hayward hunt but not so much as a whimper this evening. Groan.

It would be a risk but I hope we do it. A star who might actually stay in Indy? Yes please. A change of scenery might be all he needs.

Rumors saying the Hawks are about to swoop though.

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:01 am

Wait do they do both rounds tonight? Confusing this with the NFL Draft...

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:05 am

fonzeee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:01 am Wait do they do both rounds tonight? Confusing this with the NFL Draft...

Yea they are taking forever though. That felt like the longest first round ever. Maybe they started later than usual but its usually all over by now (5pm where I am)

Probably because most teams used every second of the 5 minutes to decide/make trades

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:13 am

Tyler Bey is a name to watch. Could be a great defensive roll player

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:22 am

Aaaand Bey is picked right before the Wizards/Pels get there

This has been a frustrating draft. Both teams were in awkward positions and havent been able to trade up/down