OFFICIAL Ireland V New Zealand match thread, Chicago, Nov 5

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OFFICIAL Ireland V New Zealand match thread, Chicago, Nov 5

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Who:

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V

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Where:

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When:

3pm Local Time, Saturday November 5th
Home: Ireland
15: Kearney R
14: Trimble
13: Payne
12: Henshaw
11: Zebo
10: Sexton
9: Murray

1: McGrath
2: Best
3: Furlong
4: D Ryan
5: Toner
6: Stander
7: Murphy
8: Heaslip

16: Cronin
17: Healy
18: Bealham
19: Dillane
20: van der Flier
21: Marmion
22: Carbery
23: Ringrose

Away: New Sheepland

1. Joe Moody (20)
2. Dane Coles (46)
3. Owen Franks (87)
4. Patrick Tuipulotu (10)
5. Jerome Kaino (75)
6. Liam Squire (6)
7. Sam Cane (37)
8. Kieran Read - captain (94)
9. Aaron Smith (54)
10. Beauden Barrett (46)
11. Julian Savea (49)
12. Ryan Crotty (24)
13. George Moala (3)
14. Waisake Naholo (8)
15. Ben Smith (58)

16. Codie Taylor (11)
17. Ofa Tu’ungafasi (2)
18. Charlie Faumuina (42)
19. Scott Barrett *
20. Ardie Savea (9)
21. TJ Perenara (26)
22. Aaron Cruden (43)
23. Malakai Fekitoa (20)

Recent History:
24 November 2013 Aviva Stadium, Dublin 22 – 24 New Zealand

Reliving the nightmare:
http://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-al ... 0-Nov2013/
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From Irish Rugby thread:

Needless to say the odds are against us on this one. We leave for Chicago monday, whereas the ABs have been there since Friday, and they've been in camp for a couple of months, more or less full time whereas we're in camp from today :uhoh: And they're pretty good right now.

Anyway, my team:

1. McGrath
2. Best
3. Furlong (Ryan very close)
4. Toner
5. Henderson (Ryan)
6. POM (gets not over Stander for his breakdown work, VDF's weakest quality)
7. VDF
8. Heaslip
9. Murray
10. Sexton
11. Trimble
12. Marshall
13. Henshaw
14. Zebo
15. Payne

16. Cronin
17. Healy (never been a great impact sub, so not sure about this one)
18. Ryan
19. Dillane (regardless of who starts)
20. Stander
21. Marmion (or McGrath - neither good enough yet)
22. Jackson
23. Gilroy or Kearney :uhoh: (Payne to cover centre)

Give SOB another week and a start against Canada. Jordi was excellent against SA, but still think VDF is better.
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We're going to get pumped so bad you wont be able to tell if our players are farting or yawning
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I feel sorry for Irish Americans having to witness this,they can maybe console themselves with a re run of the quiet man.
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:lol: they will have to put up with the best of American fandom trash talking because they have adopted the All Blacks. :x
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I think we'll unleash the moves now that the RWC is out of the way, don't know if they're enough to get us within 20 of the AB's though.
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http://chicagorugby.co/meet-the-all-blacks/

Any coming along to let the All Blacks know about the thrashing Ireland is going to give them the next day? :smug:

And I think the game will be closer than most are expecting just do to the pitch not being as wide.

Donger when you getting to town? I have been up since Friday for the World Series :thumbdown: ...leaving soon for Wrigleyvile :thumbup:
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tcc_dc wrote:http://chicagorugby.co/meet-the-all-blacks/

Any coming along to let the All Blacks know about the thrashing Ireland is going to give them the next day? :smug:

And I think the game will be closer than most are expecting just do to the pitch not being as wide.

Donger when you getting to town? I have been up since Friday for the World Series :thumbdown: ...leaving soon for Wrigleyvile :thumbup:
do you ever work? :x

I get in Friday. might think about changing to get there for the Long Lunch.
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Donger wrote:
tcc_dc wrote:http://chicagorugby.co/meet-the-all-blacks/

Any coming along to let the All Blacks know about the thrashing Ireland is going to give them the next day? :smug:

And I think the game will be closer than most are expecting just do to the pitch not being as wide.

Donger when you getting to town? I have been up since Friday for the World Series :thumbdown: ...leaving soon for Wrigleyvile :thumbup:
do you ever work? :x

I get in Friday. might think about changing to get there for the Long Lunch.
Working remote :D for the week

And I am thinking of the lunch also...
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A ridiculous game.
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I'm going to this shocker. Will be glad to get back to civilisation after a weeks road trip to Missouri.
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RWC2015 wrote:Anyway, my team:

1. McGrath
2. Best
3. Furlong (Ryan very close)
4. Toner
5. Henderson (Ryan)
6. POM (gets not over Stander for his breakdown work, VDF's weakest quality)
7. VDF
8. Heaslip
9. Murray
10. Sexton
11. Trimble
12. Marshall
13. Henshaw
14. Zebo
15. Payne

16. Cronin
17. Healy (never been a great impact sub, so not sure about this one)
18. Ryan
19. Dillane (regardless of who starts)
20. Stander
21. Marmion (or McGrath - neither good enough yet)
22. Jackson
23. Gilroy or Kearney :uhoh: (Payne to cover centre)

Give SOB another week and a start against Canada. Jordi was excellent against SA, but still think VDF is better.
Is it a full strength side for Ireland? Are they missing any key players?
HighKingLeinster wrote:We're going to get pumped so bad you wont be able to tell if our players are farting or yawning
As good as they have looked, NZ have not faced any particularly good teams yet this year. A tired injury hit Wales, a Bok side that lost to a 14 man Ireland, Argentina shorn of NH players and Australia who were beaten 3-0 at home by England. Taking NZ to win, but perhaps closer than expected.
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Ouch

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In terms of players out injured Ireland aren't really missing anyone, but POM and SOB are just back from very long layoffs and might be too rusty to play against NZ. Similarly Henderson is carrying an injury.
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HighKingLeinster wrote:We're going to get pumped so bad you wont be able to tell if our players are farting or yawning
Fear can do wonders for a team ... sometimes.
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tcc_dc wrote:http://chicagorugby.co/meet-the-all-blacks/

Any coming along to let the All Blacks know about the thrashing Ireland is going to give them the next day? :smug:

And I think the game will be closer than most are expecting just do to the pitch not being as wide.

Donger when you getting to town? I have been up since Friday for the World Series :thumbdown: ...leaving soon for Wrigleyvile :thumbup:
This is big news. Just checked and an American football pitch is 50 M wide compare to 70 M for typical rugby pitch.

That's going to have a major impact on the game. I assume they can change the markings to make the pitch a bit wider so it might be up to 60m? Still, suits Ireland...

Could mean that we start with more bruisers, Marshall, SOB, Stander etc.
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American football pitch is only 45m wide (50 yards)
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What time in Dublin does this kick off?
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danthefan wrote:What time in Dublin does this kick off?
8pm.
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RWC2015 wrote:
tcc_dc wrote:http://chicagorugby.co/meet-the-all-blacks/

Any coming along to let the All Blacks know about the thrashing Ireland is going to give them the next day? :smug:

And I think the game will be closer than most are expecting just do to the pitch not being as wide.

Donger when you getting to town? I have been up since Friday for the World Series :thumbdown: ...leaving soon for Wrigleyvile :thumbup:
This is big news. Just checked and an American football pitch is 50 M wide compare to 70 M for typical rugby pitch.

That's going to have a major impact on the game. I assume they can change the markings to make the pitch a bit wider so it might be up to 60m? Still, suits Ireland...

Could mean that we start with more bruisers, Marshall, SOB, Stander etc.
They have massive sidelines for subs so I'd imagine it will be normalish width. They played there before so I'd imagine it will be grand.
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danny_fitz wrote:Ouch

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I'd have a fiver on Ireland for the craic if they were a bit bigger than that.

NZ are 1/25 but you only give us 9/1?? Either way it doesn't look like we have many fans with the bookies.
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Rumham wrote:
RWC2015 wrote:
tcc_dc wrote:http://chicagorugby.co/meet-the-all-blacks/

Any coming along to let the All Blacks know about the thrashing Ireland is going to give them the next day? :smug:

And I think the game will be closer than most are expecting just do to the pitch not being as wide.

Donger when you getting to town? I have been up since Friday for the World Series :thumbdown: ...leaving soon for Wrigleyvile :thumbup:
This is big news. Just checked and an American football pitch is 50 M wide compare to 70 M for typical rugby pitch.

That's going to have a major impact on the game. I assume they can change the markings to make the pitch a bit wider so it might be up to 60m? Still, suits Ireland...

Could mean that we start with more bruisers, Marshall, SOB, Stander etc.
They have massive sidelines for subs so I'd imagine it will be normalish width. They played there before so I'd imagine it will be grand.
I have been to the two previous (NZ-USA, Aus-USA), and the width is not there. They use some of it, but not as much as you would think.
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Rumham wrote:
RWC2015 wrote:
tcc_dc wrote:http://chicagorugby.co/meet-the-all-blacks/

Any coming along to let the All Blacks know about the thrashing Ireland is going to give them the next day? :smug:

And I think the game will be closer than most are expecting just do to the pitch not being as wide.

Donger when you getting to town? I have been up since Friday for the World Series :thumbdown: ...leaving soon for Wrigleyvile :thumbup:
This is big news. Just checked and an American football pitch is 50 M wide compare to 70 M for typical rugby pitch.

That's going to have a major impact on the game. I assume they can change the markings to make the pitch a bit wider so it might be up to 60m? Still, suits Ireland...

Could mean that we start with more bruisers, Marshall, SOB, Stander etc.
They have massive sidelines for subs so I'd imagine it will be normalish width. They played there before so I'd imagine it will be grand.
I have been to the two previous (NZ-USA, Aus-USA), and the width is not there. They use some of it, but not as much as you would think.
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It will be interesting to see how much of a difference Farrell's defense system will work on this narrow pitch.
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This will get ugly. Ireland need to attack them at the breakdown and scrum because it's a total mismatch in open play.
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No need to worry about the width of the field. It will be widened as it was before for the All Black/USA match.
Soldier Field was specially selected because it can just squeeze in the dimensions of a rugby field.

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That's a pity. Back to us being f**ked.
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Would any of you kiwi dogs like guess as to the team?
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They have to lose sometime. It's the f**king hope that gets you.
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RWC2015 wrote:Would any of you kiwi dogs like guess as to the team?
Does it matter?
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c69 wrote:
RWC2015 wrote:Would any of you kiwi dogs like guess as to the team?
Does it matter?
As I said, it's the hope
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Duff Paddy wrote:
c69 wrote:
RWC2015 wrote:Would any of you kiwi dogs like guess as to the team?
Does it matter?
As I said, it's the hope
Irish sport in a nutshell
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Rugby2023 wrote:
RWC2015 wrote:Anyway, my team:

1. McGrath
2. Best
3. Furlong (Ryan very close)
4. Toner
5. Henderson (Ryan)
6. POM (gets not over Stander for his breakdown work, VDF's weakest quality)
7. VDF
8. Heaslip
9. Murray
10. Sexton
11. Trimble
12. Marshall
13. Henshaw
14. Zebo
15. Payne

16. Cronin
17. Healy (never been a great impact sub, so not sure about this one)
18. Ryan
19. Dillane (regardless of who starts)
20. Stander
21. Marmion (or McGrath - neither good enough yet)
22. Jackson
23. Gilroy or Kearney :uhoh: (Payne to cover centre)

Give SOB another week and a start against Canada. Jordi was excellent against SA, but still think VDF is better.
Is it a full strength side for Ireland? Are they missing any key players?
HighKingLeinster wrote:We're going to get pumped so bad you wont be able to tell if our players are farting or yawning
As good as they have looked, NZ have not faced any particularly good teams yet this year. A tired injury hit Wales, a Bok side that lost to a 14 man Ireland, Argentina shorn of NH players and Australia who were beaten 3-0 at home by England. Taking NZ to win, but perhaps closer than expected.
Without Retalick and Whitelock NZ are vulnerable. This will be a lot closer than everyone is picking
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People said the same when they lost McCaw and Carter
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Diego wrote:People said the same when they lost McCaw and Carter
I know I probably live to regret saying this but can Ireland target their scrum
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Duff Paddy wrote:
Diego wrote:People said the same when they lost McCaw and Carter
I know I probably live to regret saying this but can Ireland target their scrum
Doubt it. Ours is hardly titanic.
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Auckman wrote:No need to worry about the width of the field. It will be widened as it was before for the All Black/USA match.
Soldier Field was specially selected because it can just squeeze in the dimensions of a rugby field.

Rule 1:

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My seats from when I went to the Eagles-All Blacks match we were in the endzone on the touch line. It was amusing in the sense of "they've used every inch of space on the grass as they could".

Is the time correct? Chicago is Central time, not Eastern.
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That looks class. It would enjoyable if we weren't going to get hammered.

I think the game is on at 4am here so I'll be pissed and have to pass.
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Spoiler: show
The all black wins
good luck
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Glad it's on the box, just hope the Shillelagh has BT now :thumbup:
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