Andy Robinson Gonnnneeee From Bristol

Banana Man · Post by **Banana Man** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:11 pm

Suspended from role as Director Of Rugby. Internal review of their immediate coaching requirements happening.

village · Post by **village** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:12 pm

Martin Haag come on down?

Jonas · Post by **Jonas** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:19 pm

Well it was only a question of time. Not just the defeats but the scores Bristol have been losing by. Pretty clueless looking team in attack when they do get the ball. Sad really.

I expect Jeremy Guscott will be happy? I read Mark Tainton is acting head coach.

Chuckles1188 · Post by **Chuckles1188** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:31 pm

Long overdue. Possibly too long

Edinburgh01 · Post by **Edinburgh01** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:41 pm

It's interesting as Robinson was probably the best coach Edinburgh ever had. Made a massive difference to the team and took them higher than they'd been before or since. Then he went to Scotland and it went tits up.

He seems to be good at coaching a team he is given, as was the case with Edinburgh, but rubbish at selecting and coaching a team.

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:44 pm

Edinburgh01 wrote:It's interesting as Robinson was probably the best coach Edinburgh ever had. Made a massive difference to the team and took them higher than they'd been before or since. Then he went to Scotland and it went tits up.

He seems to be good at coaching a team he is given, as was the case with Edinburgh, but rubbish at selecting and coaching a team.

The fact that he took a team with about 10 times the resources of every other team in the championship including internationals (and Lions) and only scraped promotion at the 3rd time of asking is a bit of a hint as to what happens when he has choices.

I don't think he's a bad coach but should never be left in charge of a chequebook or a selection meeting.

Chuckles1188 · Post by **Chuckles1188** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:47 pm

Consensus in the English rugby thread is that he was/is a good forwards coach but sod all use at anything else

A5D5E5 · Post by **A5D5E5** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:31 pm

Edinburgh01 wrote:It's interesting as Robinson was probably the best coach Edinburgh ever had. Made a massive difference to the team and took them higher than they'd been before or since. Then he went to Scotland and it went tits up.

He seems to be good at coaching a team he is given, as was the case with Edinburgh, but rubbish at selecting and coaching a team.

This was pretty much the consensus among England fans and I for one was not at all surprised to see him struggle with Scotland. His selections for England were odd to the point of bizarre.

The strange thing is how long it has taken for Bristol to realise this.

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:48 pm

Sad news. Robinson should avoid taking another job for a while, then he can hop into the Wasps DoR seat when Dai moves to become Wales coach.

crash 669 · Post by **crash 669** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:50 pm

JM2K6 wrote:Sad news. Robinson should avoid taking another job for a while, then he can hop into the Wasps DoR seat when Dai moves to become Wales coach.

You're a bad man.

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:51 pm

I'm trying to become a more optimistic person, that's all.

Jim Lahey · Post by **Jim Lahey** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:53 pm

I'd take him at Ulster in a heartbeat as a forwards coach.
He surely couldn't make our pack any less effective

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:53 pm

Jim Lahey wrote:I'd take him at Ulster in a heartbeat as a forwards coach.
He surely couldn't make our pack any less effective

Roger Wilson at 7

Jim Lahey · Post by **Jim Lahey** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:56 pm

JM2K6 wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:I'd take him at Ulster in a heartbeat as a forwards coach.
He surely couldn't make our pack any less effective
Roger Wilson at 7

Roger Wilson's contract extended, club captain and garaunteed starter.
Apart from that horror scenario I think he'd do well

JJR · Post by **JJR** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:57 pm

The question I'm drawn to ask is how Robinson got the job in the first place let alone kept hold of it for years. I'm not sure I'd recommend an employer using this place to conduct their recruitment due diligence but if a load of nameless chumps know where Robinson's Peter line is then surely it wouldn't be that hard to get similar feedback from those who really know their stuff.

A5D5E5 · Post by **A5D5E5** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:59 pm

Jim Lahey wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:I'd take him at Ulster in a heartbeat as a forwards coach.
He surely couldn't make our pack any less effective
Roger Wilson at 7
Roger Wilson's contract extended, club captain and garaunteed starter.
Apart from that horror scenario I think he'd do well

Pick your best backrow combination. 2 of them get selected. In the wrong positions. The third covers lock from the bench. A journeyman you have never rated fills in the final backrow position. In the wrong position of course.

RoseGarden · Post by **RoseGarden** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:13 pm

Edit i have RR myself.

nardol · Post by **nardol** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:14 pm

Red Rebs

JJR · Post by **JJR** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:46 pm

Heyneke Meyer being lined up?

grubberkick · Post by **grubberkick** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:52 pm

Replacement with top track record about to surface from another premiership club?

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:05 pm

JM2K6 wrote:Sad news. Robinson should avoid taking another job for a while, then he can hop into the Wasps DoR seat when Dai moves to become Wales coach.

Cvnt

Fenman · Post by **Fenman** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:14 pm

grubberkick wrote:Replacement with top track record about to surface from another premiership club?

You'd have to be mad to take the Bristol job unless it involved a step up from an Academy coaches' role or similar. Bristol will go straight back down. It's inevitable. The only sensible course of action for Bristol would be to accept that fact and start building for the future. They get plenty of talent through their academy - perhaps it's time to give the youngsters some experience and hope that this will speed up their development. Downside of that strategy is that if anyone half way decent appears, one of the big clubs will wave their cheque book at them and they'll be lost. Try as I may, I can't find any reasons for being optimistic at this point in time.

SaintK · Post by **SaintK** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:20 pm

JJR wrote:Heyneke Meyer being lined up?

Yep, that's the word down in Bristol. Hopefully he will stay for more than just 9 matches as he did at Tigers
Not sure if Robinson was ever up to the DoR role? You have to question some of money he has spent on what is a fairly poor squad
Wouldn't have thought Haag would be in the frame. He has been sacked from 2 of his last 3 jobs and made redundant at the third. Though still lives locally

fisgard792 · Post by **fisgard792** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:23 pm

Brilliant player, Great Forwards Coach, he did coach the RWC winners after all, but in a position as DoR, he has always struggled. He is a marmite character apparently

Shall always remember him as a brilliant flank forward, rather than anything else.

OhNo · Post by **OhNo** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:03 pm

Bollocks, I was hoping he would at least make Christmas.

Masterji · Post by **Masterji** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:19 pm

You can put Hanson and Henry in charge and it will make no difference.

Margin_Walker · Post by **Margin_Walker** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:23 pm

Yep, they just don't have the squad. Would take more than an Andy Goode or Hougaard to come in to make an impact. Still early days, but it's hard to see where the wins would come from.

Jackal79 · Post by **Jackal79** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:24 pm

Edinburgh01 wrote:It's interesting as Robinson was probably the best coach Edinburgh ever had. Made a massive difference to the team and took them higher than they'd been before or since. Then he went to Scotland and it went tits up.

He seems to be good at coaching a team he is given, as was the case with Edinburgh, but rubbish at selecting and coaching a team.

Kinda important those two, if being a professional rugby coach is something you aspire to.

fisgard792 · Post by **fisgard792** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:26 pm

OhNo wrote:Bollocks, I was hoping he would at least make Christmas.

you'll be okay, you've also got glaws and worcs as a cushion

OhNo · Post by **OhNo** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:41 pm

fisgard792 wrote:
OhNo wrote:Bollocks, I was hoping he would at least make Christmas.
you'll be okay, you've also got glaws and worcs as a cushion

I hope so, I really do.

fisgard792 · Post by **fisgard792** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:24 pm

OhNo wrote:
fisgard792 wrote:
OhNo wrote:Bollocks, I was hoping he would at least make Christmas.
you'll be okay, you've also got glaws and worcs as a cushion
I hope so, I really do.

you'll struggle to find somebody better than deano, to keep you in the AP

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:39 pm

Maybe he should take the Eddie Jones/John Mitchell route and go coach a second-tier national team to rehabilitate his image and get away from the media scrutiny for awhile.

Moldova seems like a good fit.

Deadtigers · Post by **Deadtigers** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:23 pm

fonzeee wrote:Maybe he should take the Eddie Jones/John Mitchell route and go coach a second-tier national team to rehabilitate his image and get away from the media scrutiny for awhile.

Moldova seems like a good fit.

He could do well with a PI team or maybe Russia. A team with decent back play or ready that needs to harden up its forwards.

crash 669 · Post by **crash 669** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:31 pm

Deadtigers wrote:
fonzeee wrote:Maybe he should take the Eddie Jones/John Mitchell route and go coach a second-tier national team to rehabilitate his image and get away from the media scrutiny for awhile.

Moldova seems like a good fit.
He could do well with a PI team or maybe Russia. A team with decent back play or ready that needs to harden up its forwards.

maybe I'm remembering, but in his time as England head coach our pack wasn't particularly hard. Boneheaded certainly, and put the screw to a few scums, but I don't remember them playing as a hard nosed, baby eating unit.

DragsterDriver · Post by **DragsterDriver** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:10 pm

The man is a clown, with bristols big money he should have been gone ages ago. They're like a poundshop Toulon.

grubberkick · Post by **grubberkick** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:16 pm

fonzeee wrote:Maybe he should take the Eddie Jones/John Mitchell route and go coach a second-tier national team to rehabilitate his image and get away from the media scrutiny for awhile.

Moldova seems like a good fit.

Or possibly Orangutahn

fisgard792 · Post by **fisgard792** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:53 pm

crash 669 wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:
fonzeee wrote:Maybe he should take the Eddie Jones/John Mitchell route and go coach a second-tier national team to rehabilitate his image and get away from the media scrutiny for awhile.

Moldova seems like a good fit.
He could do well with a PI team or maybe Russia. A team with decent back play or ready that needs to harden up its forwards.
maybe I'm remembering, but in his time as England head coach our pack wasn't particularly hard. Boneheaded certainly, and put the screw to a few scums, but I don't remember them playing as a hard nosed, baby eating unit.

is this a poor whoosh?

fisgard792 · Post by **fisgard792** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:45 pm

according to the torygraph if it is Heyneke Meyer, he could bring in Eben Etzebeth with him on a short-term deal for which the 25 year-old would earn £40,000 per game during a short-term stay lasting just six matches

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/ ... mer-exodu/

pandion · Post by **pandion** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:33 pm

What's the point a second row won't save them. If they've got money to burn on a short term fix SBW or similar might win them a game or two.

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:41 pm

There is a rumour they are going to ask Leinster for permission to speak to one of their coaches