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rumoured back to the Brumbies. good riddance, seems like one of the most overrated coaches around, has done f*ck all in two and a half seasons as Head Coach
Laurie Fisher's departure from Gloucester Rugby has been confirmed.

After two days of detailed discussions and negotiations between the club's officials and Fisher's representatives, they have now parted ways and he leaves his role as head coach immediately.

Fisher, who was appointed head coach at the start of the 2014-15 season, strongly hinted at his intention to resign on Saturday night after the 30-27 defeat to Harlequins and it seems that he has now made that formal.

It is thought that Fisher made a swift exit from Kingsholm following the game and did not even go into the changing room before sending a Tweet within two hours of the final whistle, which read: "My responsibility. Time to make room for someone else."

His comments came as a surprise to Gloucester chiefs and they called a meeting with Fisher on Sunday, eventually reaching a conclusion in their discussions with the Australian this evening.

A club statement said: "Gloucester Rugby can confirm that head coach Laurie Fisher has left the club with immediate effect.

"Fisher met with club officials over the past 48 hours and it was mutually agreed that he would leave his position.

"Gloucester Rugby would like to place on record its thanks for Laurie's hard work and commitment during his time at the club, and would like to wish him well in his future endeavours.

"The club will be making no further comment on the matter."

Fisher, known as 'The Lord', is one of the most colourful characters in the game and was a popular figure with many Cherry and Whites fans but there was talk of dressing room unrest during his time at the club with his coaching methods thought to be unpopular among some players.

Gloucester are yet to make a decision on how who will take on the head coach responsibilities until the rest of the season but with just five Premiership games left it is unlikely a permanent replacement will be named until the summer.

Fisher joined Gloucester at the start of the 2014-15 season as part of a new coaching setup under director of rugby David Humphreys, helping the club win the European Challenge Cup in their first season together.

However, after ninth and eighth-placed finishes in the Aviva Premiership, the Cherry and Whites look set to miss out on playing Champions Cup rugby again next season after Saturday's defeat left them trailing sixth-placed Northampton by nine points.

There have been some impressive wins against league leaders Wasps and champions Saracens but a return of just five wins from 17 games represents a disappointing return for Gloucester, with five of their 10 defeats coming at Kingsholm.

A pattern has also emerged of Gloucester letting big leads slip and losing games late on, with Harlequins scoring 15 unanswered points in the last seven minutes on Saturday to win 30-27.

There has been speculation that Fisher could return to ACT Brumbies with Stephen Larkham leaving at the end of the Super Rugby season to join Australia's coaching staff on a full-time basis.
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Humph can get his mates Doak and Clarke in.
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Does that mean that next year is Gloucester's year?? Or is the one after......or is that a rebuilding year but the next one is bound to be the one!
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Who will be looking after Longleat while he is away?
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is he the plum with the weird hat
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Akkerman wrote:is he the plum with the weird hat
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Munster went rapidly down hill when he was their forwards coach.
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earl the beaver wrote:Humph can get his mates Doak and Clarke in.
I thought you said he was a great DoR, "if he can't sort out Glaws nobody can" etc
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Much feted by the media when he arrived, was supposed to turn Kvesic into George Smith...... that turned out well.

Who's next on the merry-go-round? Should try and get someone decent tbf, they are assembling a good pack for next year.
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How would you rate Fisher to Nigel Davies' much vaunted tenure.
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plum-pudding wrote:Much feted by the media when he arrived, was supposed to turn Kvesic into George Smith...... that turned out well.

Who's next on the merry-go-round? Should try and get someone decent tbf, they are assembling a good pack for next year.
I think a certain coach, with considerable international experience, could be on the market soon.

















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openclashXX wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:Humph can get his mates Doak and Clarke in.
I thought you said he was a great DoR, "if he can't sort out Glaws nobody can" etc
He's a money man, not a coach.
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iarmhiman wrote:Munster went rapidly down hill when he was their forwards coach.

Laurie's Ladyboys, as Franno so eloquently described Munster's pack under his watch.
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Nolanator wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:Munster went rapidly down hill when he was their forwards coach.

Laurie's Ladyboys, as Franno so eloquently described Munster's pack under his watch.

and franno would know
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He is - or was - a great breakdown coach, but - like most Aussies - he doesn't have a clue about the tight phases.
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Brumbies were woeful easy beats under his tenure. Took Jake White's extreme changes to make them competitive again. Would be surprised if Australian rugby were willing to take him back but then again they make many poor decisions that hurt their game.
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Brumbies were woeful easy beats under his tenure.
No you are thinking of Andy Friend. When Gandalf was involved the Brumbies were on the edge of the Finals or mid table.

Himself and Larkham did the bulk of the coaching under Jake White.
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plum-pudding wrote:Much feted by the media when he arrived, was supposed to turn Kvesic into George Smith...... that turned out well.

Who's next on the merry-go-round? Should try and get someone decent tbf, they are assembling a good pack for next year.
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Fisher, known as 'The Lord', is one of the most colourful characters in the game and was a popular figure with many Cherry and Whites fans but there was talk of dressing room unrest during his time at the club with his coaching methods thought to be unpopular among some players.
Oh really. How many other head coaches have the Gloucester players fallen out of favour with?
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earl the beaver wrote:
openclashXX wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:Humph can get his mates Doak and Clarke in.
I thought you said he was a great DoR, "if he can't sort out Glaws nobody can" etc
He's a money man, not a coach.
so he's shit?
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tubbyj wrote:Brumbies were woeful easy beats under his tenure. Took Jake White's extreme changes to make them competitive again. Would be surprised if Australian rugby were willing to take him back but then again they make many poor decisions that hurt their game.
:lol: Fisher took over after White left, you've got your timeline arse about.

He's always been a great breakdown coach, so as long as Dan Palmer stays on at the Brumbies to manage the set piece, he could be a great fit. Would definitely need a creative backs/skills coach to make up for that deficiency in his game though.

This would do me nicely:

Laurie Fisher - Head Coach
Dan Palmer - Forwards
Peter Ryan - Defence
David Knox - Backs
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Fisher took over after White left
Had two stints. He took over as Head Coach from Nucifora. After White he was DoR/Forwards coach. I believe Larkham was the Head Coach.
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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Fisher took over after White left
Had two stints. He took over as Head Coach from Nucifora. After White he was DoR/Forwards coach. I believe Larkham was the Head Coach.
That was at least two coaches before Jake White, and in that time they repeatedly missed out on the finals by one or two bonus points, regularly finishing fifth or sixth. If they'd had a good backs coach on board, they'd more than likely have made the finals a few times during his tenure.

The Director of Rugby thing was a stupid decision by the board, they should've just made him head coach and Larkham the backs coach.
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Fair to say he's been a failure?

Glaws haven't got the best out of their players in recent memory.
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DragsterDriver wrote:Fair to say he's been a failure?

Glaws haven't got the best out of their players in recent memory.
From the snippets I've heard there's issues at Glaws, and it may not be the coaches faults. Senior players attitudes (which then I assume rub off to others, who in time become senior themselves) weren't apparently great, then throw in potential strife between players and coaches over the last few seasons, and simply replacing one coach or another probably isn't going to work so well.

The players they've got should be doing so much better, maybe not top 4, but watching them lose to some of the sides they've been beaten by is embarrassing. Shame Fearns and Ruskin have chosen to kill their England careers there.
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DragsterDriver wrote:Fair to say he's been a failure?

Glaws haven't got the best out of their players in recent memory.
From what I've seen they keep getting into a lead and then throwing it away from nearly unlosable situations.
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With all the supposed unrest at Glass, maybe Paddy Mac will look to come home early.
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He's been useless, totally unsuited to premiership rugby. Gloucester have been crying out for a top forwards coach for years. I expect Woodman to go next and hopefully for the sheds sake a decent coach comes in.
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fraz wrote:
tubbyj wrote:Brumbies were woeful easy beats under his tenure. Took Jake White's extreme changes to make them competitive again. Would be surprised if Australian rugby were willing to take him back but then again they make many poor decisions that hurt their game.
:lol: Fisher took over after White left, you've got your timeline arse about.

He's always been a great breakdown coach, so as long as Dan Palmer stays on at the Brumbies to manage the set piece, he could be a great fit. Would definitely need a creative backs/skills coach to make up for that deficiency in his game though.

This would do me nicely:

Laurie Fisher - Head Coach
Dan Palmer - Forwards
Peter Ryan - Defence
David Knox - Backs
What's Knox up to these days? He really got Leinster's backs humming back in the day, although he was apparently properly mental.
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Diego wrote:
fraz wrote:
tubbyj wrote:Brumbies were woeful easy beats under his tenure. Took Jake White's extreme changes to make them competitive again. Would be surprised if Australian rugby were willing to take him back but then again they make many poor decisions that hurt their game.
:lol: Fisher took over after White left, you've got your timeline arse about.

He's always been a great breakdown coach, so as long as Dan Palmer stays on at the Brumbies to manage the set piece, he could be a great fit. Would definitely need a creative backs/skills coach to make up for that deficiency in his game though.

This would do me nicely:

Laurie Fisher - Head Coach
Dan Palmer - Forwards
Peter Ryan - Defence
David Knox - Backs
What's Knox up to these days? He really got Leinster's backs humming back in the day, although he was apparently properly mental.
Apparently the experience of working with Cheika turned him off coaching and he's out of rugby these days. Just need somebody to talk him into it. Don't care of he's mental, the man is a rugby genius.
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Raggs wrote:
DragsterDriver wrote:Fair to say he's been a failure?

Glaws haven't got the best out of their players in recent memory.
From the snippets I've heard there's issues at Glaws, and it may not be the coaches faults. Senior players attitudes (which then I assume rub off to others, who in time become senior themselves) weren't apparently great, then throw in potential strife between players and coaches over the last few seasons, and simply replacing one coach or another probably isn't going to work so well.

The players they've got should be doing so much better, maybe not top 4, but watching them lose to some of the sides they've been beaten by is embarrassing. Shame Fearns and Ruskin have chosen to kill their England careers there.
That's down to the coaches then- players have the talent but can't win. All players, wven the biggest plums want to win.
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DragsterDriver wrote:
Raggs wrote:
DragsterDriver wrote:Fair to say he's been a failure?

Glaws haven't got the best out of their players in recent memory.
From the snippets I've heard there's issues at Glaws, and it may not be the coaches faults. Senior players attitudes (which then I assume rub off to others, who in time become senior themselves) weren't apparently great, then throw in potential strife between players and coaches over the last few seasons, and simply replacing one coach or another probably isn't going to work so well.

The players they've got should be doing so much better, maybe not top 4, but watching them lose to some of the sides they've been beaten by is embarrassing. Shame Fearns and Ruskin have chosen to kill their England careers there.
That's down to the coaches then- players have the talent but can't win. All players, wven the biggest plums want to win.
Agreed, but if you've got a bunch of players who don't bother at training, cause friction etc (or whatever it is), it's easy enough to see how a bad bunch can pretty much kill off a coach's chances. Of course, the fact that the coaches have signed/resigned most of these guys puts it back on them anyway. Assuming any of it is true of course.
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Glaws have had a squad capable of regular top six finishes for years now, not just England players and All Blacks but some of the Premiership's highest earners too as well as an academy churning out talent

Finishing 9th, 8th and 9th in the past three seasons is a shambolic return on the calibre of the squad
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openclashXX wrote:Glaws have had a squad capable of regular top six finishes for years now, not just England players and All Blacks but some of the Premiership's highest earners too as well as an academy churning out talent

Finishing 9th, 8th and 9th in the past three seasons is a shambolic return on the calibre of the squad
They've been a bit powderpuff for years to be honest. Since the game went professional the big eared boys from the forest have disappeared and Glaws have suffered with it.
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If they're after a forwards coach I could see Dimwit getting brought in, which would be hilarious
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He always reminded me of :

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earl the beaver wrote:Humph can get his mates Doak and Clarke in.
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Yeah he's been dire. Humphries has to take his share of the blame, too, can't think of many good decisions he's made. Bit of a spoofer.
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He's always struck me as a really, really poor coach. Gloucester should not be scraping the barrel like they have been the last few years.
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