dr dre2 wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:It funny how none of those taking issue with haka take issue with equally tedious (at the very least) European based traditions.
Because they are rarely done and when they are it's in traditional context and/or settings not at the opening of an envelope.
New mark of plane in the fleet. IT'S HAKA TIME.
There was no jig in Cardiff to welcome the first bendy bus.
Most of you are European in origin and it looks a little silly, especially when you want to show off drunk in Europe.
Traditional context? Are you one of those who only know haka as a "war Dance"? If so, you should probably do a bit more research. Perhaps even research the context of the haka you are probably most familiar with.
You might find that doing a Haka to mark a new plane in the fleet is completely appropriate and isn't really much different then giving a speech and smashing a bottle of wine when launching a boat.
Why does having people of european origin being involved, who have grown up with it as part of being a New Zealander, and in many cases would have performed versions at school etc, make it silly. Do you think it's silly that Maori play rugby, which is after all an english sport? Or Welsh or Scots for that matter? Have a look at the traditions in your own culture and you will almost certainly find that many of them have been adopted from other cultures. And you will probably find that many of them have evolved over time. Your
So what if drunks makes arses of themselves doing it occasionally? Do you have similar issues with drunk displays of nationalistic pride shown by those from other nations? Is your National anthem invalidated when drunks sing it while traveling?
The problem you seem to have is that you see your own traditions has being so completely the normal way of doing things that you hardly even notice them.