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Gazzamonster wrote:

cubby boi wrote:I give up.

NZers - Enjoy the special treatment and advantages that you are afforded, but try not to be so foolish as to think that it won't be a constant controversial talking point while you do.

x

Personally - I'll head back to Wales sometime soon and hang out with the awesome bunch of folk I have watched numerous games of rugby with. And just like every single time - I'll allow them to congratulate my country on the win, they'll allow me to commiserate them for the loss.

And......if Wales do beat the AB's while I'm watching the game with them. I'll let them have their moment....hell....I'll even toast to their win.

Because I love rugby, I love everything about it. I'm proud of my team - I'm proud of their record and I'm proud about the fact that they promote New Zealand and it's culture.

If you want to live in a little bitter sphere where you feel so angry towards a tradition liked by most, hated by the few....then go right ahead.

You sound like a soccer fan....you really do.

Bobcock wrote:Actually here is a little experiment I once tried on a lone Kiwi once......

In person (it only works in person, not dressed up in full Lions kit from behind your keyboard) join a group of New Zealanders and lets say long standing Welsh supporters at an actual rugby match.

That last part may be a little difficult for some, going out of the house can be a pressurised event......

Preferably in a pub before the game start using some of the oft repeated PR anti haka arguments. Tell both sets of guys that it's stupid, an advantage etc etc.....

You will soon find out how much contempt your silly views will be held in.....

cubby boi wrote:

Gazzamonster wrote:

cubby boi wrote:I give up.

NZers - Enjoy the special treatment and advantages that you are afforded, but try not to be so foolish as to think that it won't be a constant controversial talking point while you do.

x

Personally - I'll head back to Wales sometime soon and hang out with the awesome bunch of folk I have watched numerous games of rugby with. And just like every single time - I'll allow them to congratulate my country on the win, they'll allow me to commiserate them for the loss.

And......if Wales do beat the AB's while I'm watching the game with them. I'll let them have their moment....hell....I'll even toast to their win.

Because I love rugby, I love everything about it. I'm proud of my team - I'm proud of their record and I'm proud about the fact that they promote New Zealand and it's culture.

If you want to live in a little bitter sphere where you feel so angry towards a tradition liked by most, hated by the few....then go right ahead.

You sound like a soccer fan....you really do.

Get this into your thick, insular head -
I love the haka, assuming all is fair.
I just don't think you should be using it to your advantage, even when away from home.
Singing our national anthem in response to your haka would be a great to watch and undoubtedly give our boys a big lift before the game - just as performing the haka directly before the whistle undoubtedly gives your guys.
This is exactly as it was when we first met. Back then the NZ rugby side didn't have a national anthem, and Wales introduced it to rugby that day.
Get off your high horse and respect other peoples views and traditions.

cubby boi wrote:

Gazzamonster wrote:

cubby boi wrote:I give up.

NZers - Enjoy the special treatment and advantages that you are afforded, but try not to be so foolish as to think that it won't be a constant controversial talking point while you do.

x

Personally - I'll head back to Wales sometime soon and hang out with the awesome bunch of folk I have watched numerous games of rugby with. And just like every single time - I'll allow them to congratulate my country on the win, they'll allow me to commiserate them for the loss.

And......if Wales do beat the AB's while I'm watching the game with them. I'll let them have their moment....hell....I'll even toast to their win.

Because I love rugby, I love everything about it. I'm proud of my team - I'm proud of their record and I'm proud about the fact that they promote New Zealand and it's culture.

If you want to live in a little bitter sphere where you feel so angry towards a tradition liked by most, hated by the few....then go right ahead.

You sound like a soccer fan....you really do.

Get this into your thick, insular head -
I love the haka.
I just don't think you should be using it to your advantage, even when away from home.
Singing our national anthem in response to your haka would be a great to watch and undoubtedly give our boys a big lift before the game - just as performing the haka directly before the whistle undoubtedly gives your guys.
This is exactly as it was when we first met. Back then the NZ rugby side didn't have a national anthem, and Wales introduced it to rugby that day.
Get off your high horse and respect other peoples views and traditions.

Gazzamonster wrote:

cubby boi wrote:

Gazzamonster wrote:

cubby boi wrote:I give up.

NZers - Enjoy the special treatment and advantages that you are afforded, but try not to be so foolish as to think that it won't be a constant controversial talking point while you do.

x

Personally - I'll head back to Wales sometime soon and hang out with the awesome bunch of folk I have watched numerous games of rugby with. And just like every single time - I'll allow them to congratulate my country on the win, they'll allow me to commiserate them for the loss.

And......if Wales do beat the AB's while I'm watching the game with them. I'll let them have their moment....hell....I'll even toast to their win.

Because I love rugby, I love everything about it. I'm proud of my team - I'm proud of their record and I'm proud about the fact that they promote New Zealand and it's culture.

If you want to live in a little bitter sphere where you feel so angry towards a tradition liked by most, hated by the few....then go right ahead.

You sound like a soccer fan....you really do.

Get this into your thick, insular head -
I love the haka.
I just don't think you should be using it to your advantage, even when away from home.
Singing our national anthem in response to your haka would be a great to watch and undoubtedly give our boys a big lift before the game - just as performing the haka directly before the whistle undoubtedly gives your guys.
This is exactly as it was when we first met. Back then the NZ rugby side didn't have a national anthem, and Wales introduced it to rugby that day.
Get off your high horse and respect other peoples views and traditions.

OK - so you love the Haka but you blame it for NZ's dominance as it gives them an advantage.

Maybe....just maybe......play rugby better.

cubby boi wrote: Thank you for that pearl of wisdom.

Gazzamonster wrote:

cubby boi wrote: Thank you for that pearl of wisdom.

You're welcome.

I think you just need to get over it.

Watch rugby, drink beer, eat kebab, banter, have a good night.

cubby boi wrote: Get this into your thick, insular head

Teenage_hooker wrote:

Gazzamonster wrote:

cubby boi wrote:Why can't the Newzealanders stop being so precious, just for a minute, and answer the question?

But certainly....I will answer the question.

Personally I believe that NZ should always respect the National Anthem of the country - therefore that can't be dropped.

So if it came down to a ruling from the powers on high then the Haka would be dropped. And that would also affect Fiji, Samoa and Tonga.

What I would like to see - mainly to stop the endless f**king whining and bollocks from people like you is that the NZRU asks the opposite Union if they would like to have the Haka or not.

If they say no then NZ won't do it - the local union can explain it to the players and fans themselves.

Fair enough?

That's a pretty good solution actually.

Bobcock wrote:

cubby boi wrote: Get this into your thick, insular head

Yep.... completely unemotional.....

Toro wrote:

Bobcock wrote:

cubby boi wrote: Get this into your thick, insular head

Yep.... completely unemotional.....

Quite. This bored comes up with some gems sometimes.

sorCrer wrote:

Dai another day wrote:

Gazzamonster wrote:Why should they have to choose one?

Should South Africa just choose one of their anthems?

Why should our players have to stand there and watch it?

IRB has decreed it so.

usermame wrote:

Teenage_hooker wrote:

Gazzamonster wrote:

cubby boi wrote:Why can't the Newzealanders stop being so precious, just for a minute, and answer the question?

But certainly....I will answer the question.

Personally I believe that NZ should always respect the National Anthem of the country - therefore that can't be dropped.

So if it came down to a ruling from the powers on high then the Haka would be dropped. And that would also affect Fiji, Samoa and Tonga.

What I would like to see - mainly to stop the endless f**king whining and bollocks from people like you is that the NZRU asks the opposite Union if they would like to have the Haka or not.

If they say no then NZ won't do it - the local union can explain it to the players and fans themselves.

Fair enough?

That's a pretty good solution actually.

The status quo?

La soule wrote:I think the main issue is not the haka self but the IRB stance that you should just stand there and take it.

Mick Mannock wrote:

La soule wrote:I think the main issue is not the haka self but the IRB stance that you should just stand there and take it.

Are you sure this is true?

Andalu wrote:In a similar vein, imagine if the haka was reserved for big games. The psychological impact of not doing a haka against your team would be great and I'm sure people would miss it if they never saw it against their team again. Charge countries like USA and Japan a haka fee if they want it.

Mick Mannock wrote:

La soule wrote:I think the main issue is not the haka self but the IRB stance that you should just stand there and take it.

Are you sure this is true?

It’s OK for the All Blacks to psych themselves up to the gills by presenting a theatrical tableau of violent aggression, complete with a throat-slitting gesture but woe betide the team who accepts the challenge by holding hands and walking towards them in neat chevron formation.

La soule wrote:

Mick Mannock wrote:

La soule wrote:I think the main issue is not the haka self but the IRB stance that you should just stand there and take it.

Are you sure this is true?

Unless I read fake news, I remember France had to pay a fine in the final of 2011.

I think it was because they went over the line.

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

La soule wrote:

Mick Mannock wrote:

La soule wrote:I think the main issue is not the haka self but the IRB stance that you should just stand there and take it.

Are you sure this is true?

Unless I read fake news, I remember France had to pay a fine in the final of 2011.

I think it was because they went over the line.

Yeah, neither team is allowed to cross the 10m line, but I don't think teams are actually required to face it. They could do a Campo.

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

La soule wrote:

Mick Mannock wrote:

La soule wrote:I think the main issue is not the haka self but the IRB stance that you should just stand there and take it.

Are you sure this is true?

Unless I read fake news, I remember France had to pay a fine in the final of 2011.

I think it was because they went over the line.

Yeah, neither team is allowed to cross the 10m line, but I don't think teams are actually required to face it. They could do a Campo.

theaxe wrote:

Dai another day wrote:

cubby boi wrote:What is it about the haka that brings out this bile from the Kiwis? Your retorts are laughable, and completely unwarranted.

Why is this? Do you feel you deserve more than the rest of the rugby world and that you need not answer to them? Do you feel you need an advantage?

It's not worth discussing it with them. They'll start chucking out some more anti-welsh bigotry soon.

You really are a special little snowflake aren't you Dai?

La soule wrote:

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

La soule wrote:

Mick Mannock wrote:

La soule wrote:I think the main issue is not the haka self but the IRB stance that you should just stand there and take it.

Are you sure this is true?

Unless I read fake news, I remember France had to pay a fine in the final of 2011.

I think it was because they went over the line.

Yeah, neither team is allowed to cross the 10m line, but I don't think teams are actually required to face it. They could do a Campo.

Do you prefer a Campo or what happened for that 2011 final game?

Enzedder wrote:

usermame wrote:

Teenage_hooker wrote:

Gazzamonster wrote:

cubby boi wrote:Why can't the Newzealanders stop being so precious, just for a minute, and answer the question?

But certainly....I will answer the question.

Personally I believe that NZ should always respect the National Anthem of the country - therefore that can't be dropped.

So if it came down to a ruling from the powers on high then the Haka would be dropped. And that would also affect Fiji, Samoa and Tonga.

What I would like to see - mainly to stop the endless f**king whining and bollocks from people like you is that the NZRU asks the opposite Union if they would like to have the Haka or not.

If they say no then NZ won't do it - the local union can explain it to the players and fans themselves.

Fair enough?

That's a pretty good solution actually.

The status quo?

But those who cannot see, will not see.

If we didn't do it the howls of "precious" outrage from the same twats would be deafening

No this deafening, but close

JM2K6 wrote: You're overdoing it now

Jay Cee Gee wrote:
The French response in both 07 and 11 was awesome. I can understand the regulation to not go over the 10, the IRB doesn't want any hint of an actual physical confrontation, but it's not inappropriate or disrespectful to accept the challenge as the French did. Nor should they actually have to be respectful, IMO. I don't see any issue with the opposition blowing kisses or whatever to gee themselves up.

Turbogoat wrote:

cubby boi wrote:Why can't the Newzealanders stop being so precious, just for a minute, and answer the question?

Nah, you can stand there in the corner and watch as we have our way with your thread. Your thread is loving it by the way, doesn't normally get handled like this.

If you really knew what went on, all the awful stuff, that really does break down to a holocaust. I know we might get in trouble for saying those words but it is absolutely true. That is what happened, we are still recovering from that," he said.

"I would hope that the average Pakeha New Zealander would perhaps throw their hands up with dismay and go `wow, sorry guys, we really messed up with that one. How can we help you out?' and perhaps the Government would be on board."

Gazzamonster wrote:Why should they have to choose one?

Should South Africa just choose one of their anthems?

guy smiley wrote:

Toro wrote:Another haka thread

Add it to the list

dr dre2 wrote:

Turbogoat wrote:

cubby boi wrote:Why can't the Newzealanders stop being so precious, just for a minute, and answer the question?

Nah, you can stand there in the corner and watch as we have our way with your thread. Your thread is loving it by the way, doesn't normally get handled like this.

Creepy. We know the form on this now gentlemen, we know it's origin.

dr dre2 wrote:Stroke my balls

dr dre2 wrote:we put our balls on the table

dr dre2 wrote:but here they are look at my balls

dr dre2 wrote:Stroke my balls as I speak please

dr dre2 wrote:I love the feel of a man's tongue on my sphincter

dr dre2 wrote:I don't see why jerking off in public should be a crime

jambanja wrote:

guy smiley wrote:

Toro wrote:Another haka thread

Add it to the list

Why is it that Haka threads get so much traffic do you think?

Turbogoat wrote:

dr dre2 wrote:

Turbogoat wrote:

cubby boi wrote:Why can't the Newzealanders stop being so precious, just for a minute, and answer the question?

Nah, you can stand there in the corner and watch as we have our way with your thread. Your thread is loving it by the way, doesn't normally get handled like this.

Creepy. We know the form on this now gentlemen, we know it's origin.

Congrats, I thought my elegant allusion may have been too subtle for you. Good on you at being so well practiced at being cucked, I guess.

tbh, given your own recent form of posting, you don't really have much of the moral high ground to stand on there champ:

dr dre2 wrote:Stroke my balls

dr dre2 wrote:we put our balls on the table

dr dre2 wrote:but here they are look at my balls

dr dre2 wrote:Stroke my balls as I speak please

dr dre2 wrote:I love the feel of a man's tongue on my sphincter

dr dre2 wrote:I don't see why jerking off in public should be a crime