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Gatland has proven that he is willing to drop a big name player even when it is an unpopular decision.
I don't believe that he is going to start a test with the double out half 10-12 combo, though it might feature due to injuries or with 20 mins to go as a change up.
That said, you have an out half who can pass and slot his goals and tackle who many people believe is a world class player who delivers under pressure and who should be the starting Lions 10.
But that's enough about that donkey Farrell, why would you pick him when you can have one of the best 10's in world rugby, who can control a match, run and make breaks, put players into gaps, win turnovers, hold players up to create winning mauls, slot goals, put manners on the back line and just generally be superior?

Gatland knows that Sexton is a far better player than Farrell. Sexton is playing himself back into form from injury. Gatland knows that Jonny won him the Lions series in Oz.
Don't be surprised if Farrell doesn't make the starting 15.
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Flametop wrote:Gatland has proven that he is willing to drop a big name player even when it is an unpopular decision.
I don't believe that he is going to start a test with the double out half 10-12 combo, though it might feature due to injuries or with 20 mins to go as a change up.
That said, you have an out half who can pass and slot his goals and tackle who many people believe is a world class player who delivers under pressure and who should be the starting Lions 10.
But that's enough about that donkey Farrell, why would you pick him when you can have one of the best 10's in world rugby, who can control a match, run and make breaks, put players into gaps, win turnovers, hold players up to create winning mauls, slot goals, put manners on the back line and just generally be superior?

Gatland knows that Sexton is a far better player than Farrell. Sexton is playing himself back into form from injury. Gatland knows that Jonny won him the Lions series in Oz.
Don't be surprised if Farrell doesn't make the starting 15.
I think most knowledgeable observers would acknowledge that Farrell and Biggar have been the better performing 10's so far on the tour.

That said, I expect Farrell and Sexton to feature in the Test 23, unless Sexton's cameo against the Crusaders was a one-off.

He's been absolute toilet for the last month of the regular season.
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10 I don't know, but t'eo and jiffy are probably nailed on in the centres.
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Saturnine wrote:
Flametop wrote:Gatland has proven that he is willing to drop a big name player even when it is an unpopular decision.
I don't believe that he is going to start a test with the double out half 10-12 combo, though it might feature due to injuries or with 20 mins to go as a change up.
That said, you have an out half who can pass and slot his goals and tackle who many people believe is a world class player who delivers under pressure and who should be the starting Lions 10.
But that's enough about that donkey Farrell, why would you pick him when you can have one of the best 10's in world rugby, who can control a match, run and make breaks, put players into gaps, win turnovers, hold players up to create winning mauls, slot goals, put manners on the back line and just generally be superior?

Gatland knows that Sexton is a far better player than Farrell. Sexton is playing himself back into form from injury. Gatland knows that Jonny won him the Lions series in Oz.
Don't be surprised if Farrell doesn't make the starting 15.
I think most knowledgeable observers would acknowledge that Farrell and Biggar have been the better performing 10's so far on the tour.

That said, I expect Farrell and Sexton to feature in the Test 23, unless Sexton's cameo against the Crusaders was a one-off.

He's been absolute toilet for the last month of the regular season.
Nah, Biggar's aimless downtown kicks (along with Webb's) that invited constant counter attacks has ruled him out.
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Flametop wrote:Gatland has proven that he is willing to drop a big name player even when it is an unpopular decision.
I don't believe that he is going to start a test with the double out half 10-12 combo, though it might feature due to injuries or with 20 mins to go as a change up.
That said, you have an out half who can pass and slot his goals and tackle who many people believe is a world class player who delivers under pressure and who should be the starting Lions 10.
But that's enough about that donkey Farrell, why would you pick him when you can have one of the best 10's in world rugby, who can control a match, run and make breaks, put players into gaps, win turnovers, hold players up to create winning mauls, slot goals, put manners on the back line and just generally be superior?

Gatland knows that Sexton is a far better player than Farrell. Sexton is playing himself back into form from injury. Gatland knows that Jonny won him the Lions series in Oz.
Don't be surprised if Farrell doesn't make the starting 15.
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That said, you have an out half who can pass and slot his goals and tackle who many people believe is a world class player who delivers under pressure and who should be the starting Lions 10.
Where the fudge do you get off thinking you can select Cruden?
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Flametop wrote:Gatland has proven that he is willing to drop a big name player even when it is an unpopular decision.
I don't believe that he is going to start a test with the double out half 10-12 combo, though it might feature due to injuries or with 20 mins to go as a change up.
That said, you have an out half who can pass and slot his goals and tackle who many people believe is a world class player who delivers under pressure and who should be the starting Lions 10.
But that's enough about that donkey Farrell, why would you pick him when you can have one of the best 10's in world rugby, who can control a match, run and make breaks :lol: , put players into gaps, win turnovers, hold players up to create winning mauls, slot goals, put manners on the back line and just generally be superior?

Gatland knows that Sexton is a far better player than Farrell :lol: . Sexton is playing himself back into form from injury. Gatland knows that Jonny won him the Lions series in Oz.
Don't be surprised if Farrell doesn't make the starting 15.
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It is a big choice, but I think we can all agree that Biggar has proven himself to be the best candidate. :thumbup:
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Jeff the Bear wrote:It is a big choice, but I think we can all agree that Biggar has proven himself to be the best candidate. :thumbup:
Bit early to be drinking, isn't it Jeff?
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If I was Gatland, Faz would have been the first name on my Lions selection sheet...
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All that bluster about oh Farrel and sexton so amazing after the game before last...

Neither were that good... Murray and the pack won that game.
Not a single back has put his hand up for the lions so far and that's because back play in the modern game requires more intricate moves that take time to bed in. Time is not something the lions have, had or will have
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Would love the Lions to play Sexton at 10 or 12. He's been shite and would be an absolute liability.
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Gatland will have a bosher at 12.
Farrell's claim to fame is that he can pass the ball.
The problem is that Gatland won't pick anybody outside worth passing to.
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Sexton :lol:
Farrell is streets ahead. It isn't even close.
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HurricaneWasp wrote:Sexton :lol:
Farrell is streets ahead. It isn't even close.
His cameo to lose the match against the Highlanders may not have endeared him to Gatland.
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Flametop wrote:
HurricaneWasp wrote:Sexton :lol:
Farrell is streets ahead. It isn't even close.
His cameo to lose the match against the Highlanders may not have endeared him to Gatland.
Sexton's cameo in the blues and baa baas match probably won't have helped his cause. And also the fact that rapey eyes is a much better player.
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ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Flametop wrote:
HurricaneWasp wrote:Sexton :lol:
Farrell is streets ahead. It isn't even close.
His cameo to lose the match against the Highlanders may not have endeared him to Gatland.
Sexton's cameo in the blues and baa baas match probably won't have helped his cause. And also the fact that rapey eyes is a much better player.
The only thing scared of Farrell is the posts.
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Didn't Sexton also miss a relatively straightforward kick the other day? Without the excuse of it being literally the first thing he had to do coming off the bench?
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JM2K6 wrote:Didn't Sexton also miss a relatively straightforward kick the other day? Without the excuse of it being literally the first thing he had to do coming off the bench?
On what planet is that an excuse
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Anyway I am totally opposed to a Teo/JD centre pairing so would push Faz in. There are concerns over Sexton and that's fair, just my take.
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The green tinted glasses of the Irish must have a very powerful prescription. I've seriously seen them advocate Payne and Sexton in the starting team :lol:
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TheBouncer wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:Didn't Sexton also miss a relatively straightforward kick the other day? Without the excuse of it being literally the first thing he had to do coming off the bench?
On what planet is that an excuse
The one where it's a weird situation to be in? Like coming off the bench to take a penalty in football - it probably takes a short while to get your head in the right place.
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JM2K6 wrote:
TheBouncer wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:Didn't Sexton also miss a relatively straightforward kick the other day? Without the excuse of it being literally the first thing he had to do coming off the bench?
On what planet is that an excuse
The one where it's a weird situation to be in? Like coming off the bench to take a penalty in football - it probably takes a short while to get your head in the right place.
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Hitting JJ in the face with a bullet pass on the last play of the game was inexcusable.
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Flametop wrote:Hitting JJ in the face with a bullet pass on the last play of the game was inexcusable.
That was a bit school boy.
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The only time the Lions backline looked cohesive and threatening was when Sexton and Farrell ended up together v Crusaders.

I hope he goes JS/OF/Teo

I think he'll go OF/RH/JD2 from what I've heard.
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Sexton is behind Biggar for the bench tbh.
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Jake wrote:The only time the Lions backline looked cohesive and threatening was when Sexton and Farrell ended up together v Crusaders.

I hope he goes JS/OF/Teo

I think he'll go OF/RH/JD2 from what I've heard.
Hopefully RH is Rob Henderson
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JM2K6 wrote:
Jake wrote:The only time the Lions backline looked cohesive and threatening was when Sexton and Farrell ended up together v Crusaders.

I hope he goes JS/OF/Teo

I think he'll go OF/RH/JD2 from what I've heard.
Hopefully RH is Rob Henderson
I'd take Rob Horne over Henshaw, at the moment. He's probably English, right?
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No idea what the stats say but t'eo has looked the best ball runner to
Me.
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Colin Farrell would be a better pick.
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JM2K6 wrote:
Jake wrote:The only time the Lions backline looked cohesive and threatening was when Sexton and Farrell ended up together v Crusaders.

I hope he goes JS/OF/Teo

I think he'll go OF/RH/JD2 from what I've heard.
Hopefully RH is Rob Henderson
Richard Hibbard?
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JM2K6 wrote:
Jake wrote:The only time the Lions backline looked cohesive and threatening was when Sexton and Farrell ended up together v Crusaders.

I hope he goes JS/OF/Teo

I think he'll go OF/RH/JD2 from what I've heard.
Hopefully RH is Rob Henderson
No, I just needed to give Hilly's chances a little nudge....he's quicker than that lot on one leg at 43.
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Jake wrote:The only time the Lions backline looked cohesive and threatening was when Sexton and Farrell ended up together v Crusaders.

I hope he goes JS/OF/Teo

I think he'll go OF/RH/JD2 from what I've heard.
Plan B is a creditable Warrenball strategm. But not necessarily a winning one.

I expect JS/OF/JD2 for the later tests. Huge Henshaw fan but he is being expected to produce a creative game he is capable of but has not really been asked to do for a number of years.

Te'o has not demonstrated the passing skills to warrant a nailed-down place, but I would be happy if he can bust the joint open next time.
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Botha Boy wrote:
Jake wrote:The only time the Lions backline looked cohesive and threatening was when Sexton and Farrell ended up together v Crusaders.

I hope he goes JS/OF/Teo

I think he'll go OF/RH/JD2 from what I've heard.
Plan B is a creditable Warrenball strategm. But not necessarily a winning one.

I expect JS/OF/JD2 for the later tests. Huge Henshaw fan but he is being expected to produce a creative game he is capable of but has not really been asked to do for a number of years.

Te'o has not demonstrated the passing skills to warrant a nailed-down place, but I would be happy if he can bust the joint open next time.
By "next time" you mean in South Africa?
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Flametop wrote:
Botha Boy wrote:
Jake wrote:The only time the Lions backline looked cohesive and threatening was when Sexton and Farrell ended up together v Crusaders.

I hope he goes JS/OF/Teo

I think he'll go OF/RH/JD2 from what I've heard.
Plan B is a creditable Warrenball strategm. But not necessarily a winning one.

I expect JS/OF/JD2 for the later tests. Huge Henshaw fan but he is being expected to produce a creative game he is capable of but has not really been asked to do for a number of years.

Te'o has not demonstrated the passing skills to warrant a nailed-down place, but I would be happy if he can bust the joint open next time.
But preferably at the weekend ... #just sayin' :thumbup:


By "next time" you mean in South Africa?
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DragsterDriver wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
Jake wrote:The only time the Lions backline looked cohesive and threatening was when Sexton and Farrell ended up together v Crusaders.

I hope he goes JS/OF/Teo

I think he'll go OF/RH/JD2 from what I've heard.
Hopefully RH is Rob Henderson
Richard Hibbard?
Rob Howley.
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All three will be in the XXIII.
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Hellraiser wrote:All three will be in the XVIII.
Rob Howley will be the first name on the team sheet.
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