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AND-y wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: Poor pussycats. Irish and English shite as ever.
Maybe this AND-y's evil twin, and-Y.
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Hawk97 wrote:
Rugby2023 wrote:
AND-y wrote:Poor pussycats. Irish and English shite as ever.
:? where did Wales finish in the 6N again?
What's happened to Andy? Given his login to Cubby?
The Lions broke ANDy. :(
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ovalball wrote:Congrats Abs - outplayed us. Really bossed the breakdown.

Bit disappointed with our back row forwards - really didn't make much impact. And our pack struggled a bit.

JD2 had a fine game as did Williams. Webb looked sharp when he arrived.

Not all bad though - got caught napping a couple of times and got pinged too often, but some excellent breaks from the back 3.

Difficult to know if different selections would help - definitely need to do more at the breakdown.
It's a great shame Billy V wasn't fit.
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UncleFB wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
fatcat wrote:Christ what a shit game and weak Lions performance. :(
It was a great test match in my opinion.
You must be very easily pleased.
What the fudge is wrong with you? Aside from the result going against you that was a cracking match. Lots of too-and-fro and the Lions were in it a long time.

The Lions fans in this thread turn rabid against their team quicker than we ever do.
It was a good first half, the second half with the weather was kind of drab and error-prone.
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I'm really looking forward to going to the 2nd test. The ABs should only get better from this, and it will be a fantastic game played in pristine conditions for running rugby!

The big fear that most Kiwis had about the BILs perceived forward dominance didn't happen. In fact, quite the opposite...but should that really have surprised anyone? I sometimes wonder if the media make this shit up to get interest (of course they do).

Jordie in? Or Fekitoa..? Both..? Either way we come into the 2nd test with arguably as strong a team. Lineout accuracy a concern. If the BILs can step up, those controllable elements will hurt.
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First half was absolutely fantastic, and the Lions were right in it until Ioane's first try. They had their chances but didn't take them.
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Zico wrote:At the breakdown Peyper neutered the Lions in the first few minutes by applying one rule for NZ to compete at will while penalising the Lions in a fair contest. NZ didn't need the help but they got it.
:lol:

Yeah, you hang on to that.
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UncleFB wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
fatcat wrote:Christ what a shit game and weak Lions performance. :(
It was a great test match in my opinion.
You must be very easily pleased.
What the fudge is wrong with you? Aside from the result going against you that was a cracking match. Lots of too-and-fro and the Lions were in it a long time.

The Lions fans in this thread turn rabid against their team quicker than we ever do.
That analysis will come eventually. But for now they are going to go at each other. Probably good to be Scottish right now and watch the fighting.
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JM2K6 wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
fatcat wrote:Christ what a shit game and weak Lions performance. :(
It was a great test match in my opinion.
You must be very easily pleased.
What the fudge is wrong with you? Aside from the result going against you that was a cracking match. Lots of too-and-fro and the Lions were in it a long time.

The Lions fans in this thread turn rabid against their team quicker than we ever do.
It was a fanastic contest for nearly an hour.
That includes half time though.
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fonzeee wrote:
Seez wrote:
c69 wrote:
korben_dallas wrote:There is no way you can put Sexton, Kruiz or Daly in next week absolute wank
Kruis and Daly were terrible.
Daly terrible? What were you watching?
+1. For some reason though (Ioane's try I presume) I can see this is already becoming a FACT
The try where Williams didn't catch it. That try was Williams fault not Dalys
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Duff Paddy wrote:Read looks like he's just had a 15 minute stroll in the park
Very low number of games per season plus recent lay-off through injury = fit as a fiddle.
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crouchy wrote:The lions were rubbish. A single moment of brilliance from Liam Williams papering over a very bland performance.
Pretty much this although rubbish is a bit strong. They were outmuscled for most of the game. Bes Smith will not be around in the next test to gift the Lions ball.
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Liam Williams had a terrible second half after being great in the first.
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Tony Blair's Therapist wrote:
ovalball wrote:Congrats Abs - outplayed us. Really bossed the breakdown.

Bit disappointed with our back row forwards - really didn't make much impact. And our pack struggled a bit.

JD2 had a fine game as did Williams. Webb looked sharp when he arrived.

Not all bad though - got caught napping a couple of times and got pinged too often, but some excellent breaks from the back 3.

Difficult to know if different selections would help - definitely need to do more at the breakdown.
It's a great shame Billy V wasn't fit.
+1
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Croft wrote:
Jumper wrote:What we need to see next week:
Sexton to start at 10.
Warburton gone from from the squad. Stander to the bench or maybe to 8 ahead of Faletau who wasn't great after a brilliant tour up to now.
Changes at lock. Both AWJ and Kruis were poor.
Maybe a replacement for Daly who wasn't great.
Hopefully Lawes will be back.
Also Itoje and Sexton to start. Farrell had a shit game.
I wouldn't make too many changes - otherwise the team will never gel. Today's side weren't so far away.
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UncleFB wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
fatcat wrote:Christ what a shit game and weak Lions performance. :(
It was a great test match in my opinion.
You must be very easily pleased.
What the fudge is wrong with you? Aside from the result going against you that was a cracking match. Lots of too-and-fro and the Lions were in it a long time.

The Lions fans in this thread turn rabid against their team quicker than we ever do.
The 20mins around half time were owned by the Lions and the All Blacks were only just hanging on. The fact that they managed to get back in control speaks volumes about how good they are.
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Salanya wrote:Funnily enough it was the backs (bar Farrell) who did well. But flyhalf is rather important, and you don't beat the All Blacks with 1 moment of brilliance.

The forwards were industrious, but they were standing off too much, had to be more aggressive. The locks weren't great, leaving more work for the backrow, who then tackled hard but hardly carried any ball.
Bar POM, SOB and Mako, the starting forwards were pretty pathetic. You can blame Peyper all along but that lack of competiveness at the breakdown was poor. It looked to me like a lot of guys thought their job was over after getting selected.

Itoje should not be used as an impact player, especially in a team chasing the game. He needs to be there from the start.
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Nabberuk wrote:
fonzeee wrote:
Seez wrote:
c69 wrote:
korben_dallas wrote:There is no way you can put Sexton, Kruiz or Daly in next week absolute wank
Kruis and Daly were terrible.
Daly terrible? What were you watching?
+1. For some reason though (Ioane's try I presume) I can see this is already becoming a FACT
The try where Williams didn't catch it. That try was Williams fault not Dalys
Had nothing to do with sexton throwing the ball into the kiwis hands one phase earlier on quick attacking ball????
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UncleFB wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
fatcat wrote:Christ what a shit game and weak Lions performance. :(
It was a great test match in my opinion.
You must be very easily pleased.
What the fudge is wrong with you? Aside from the result going against you that was a cracking match. Lots of too-and-fro and the Lions were in it a long time.

The Lions fans in this thread turn rabid against their team quicker than we ever do.
Fair enough, but I thought it was boring and the Lions had no answer to a NZ who barely reached third gear. The series is over.
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Dumbledore wrote:First half was absolutely fantastic, and the Lions were right in it until Ioane's first try. They had their chances but didn't take them.
It has been the story of the tour, problems scoring tries.
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JM2K6 wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
fatcat wrote:Christ what a shit game and weak Lions performance. :(
It was a great test match in my opinion.
You must be very easily pleased.
What the fudge is wrong with you? Aside from the result going against you that was a cracking match. Lots of too-and-fro and the Lions were in it a long time.

The Lions fans in this thread turn rabid against their team quicker than we ever do.
It was a fanastic contest for nearly an hour.
The Lions were always the 2nd best team. They were disappointing. I want to see a tough test series and on this performance the Lions won't even come close
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and fücking Scotland have lost me money, just to compound it :x
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Kruis was poor but Parling had a shocker in Test 2 in Oz but came back brilliantly in the 3rd.

Difficult for a 5 in a scratch pack I think, POC struggled with it as well.
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BlackMac wrote:
Salanya wrote:Funnily enough it was the backs (bar Farrell) who did well. But flyhalf is rather important, and you don't beat the All Blacks with 1 moment of brilliance.

The forwards were industrious, but they were standing off too much, had to be more aggressive. The locks weren't great, leaving more work for the backrow, who then tackled hard but hardly carried any ball.
Bar POM, SOB and Mako, the starting forwards were pretty pathetic. You can blame Peyper all along but that lack of competiveness at the breakdown was poor. It looked to me like a lot of guys thought their job was over after getting selected.

Itoje should not be used as an impact player, especially in a team chasing the game. He needs to be there from the start.
Good post
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kiweez wrote:I'm really looking forward to going to the 2nd test. The ABs should only get better from this, and it will be a fantastic game played in pristine conditions for running rugby!

The big fear that most Kiwis had about the BILs perceived forward dominance didn't happen. In fact, quite the opposite...but should that really have surprised anyone? I sometimes wonder if the media make this shit up to get interest (of course they do).

Jordie in? Or Fekitoa..? Both..? Either way we come into the 2nd test with arguably as strong a team. Lineout accuracy a concern. If the BILs can step up, those controllable elements will hurt.
Think we might get Coles back for the second test.
Injuries to Crotty, B Smith and Kaino (?) May make things a bit more interesting though.
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Santa wrote:Lions closer than 15 I reckon.
Excellent defensive structure and line speed. If they'd cashed in a couple of their charge downs it could've been a very different story.
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We don't need to change much. Itoje for AWJ. Lawes to the bench. Tipuric for Warburton on the bench. ....
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Well played NZ great play 👍🏼
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AND-y wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: Poor pussycats. Irish and English shite as ever.
I would keep a low profile if I were you.
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I thought Peyper was fine. The speed the All Blacks play at must make them incredibly hard to ref. The Lions did some dumb things when they fell behind and he pinged them for it. Easier to give away penalties when you're defending as well, and the Lions were down in possession 61-39, and in territory 63-37.
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Interesting interview with mr. acromegaly himself
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I'm just so disappointed in the pack.
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Nabberuk wrote:
fonzeee wrote:
Seez wrote:
c69 wrote:
korben_dallas wrote:There is no way you can put Sexton, Kruiz or Daly in next week absolute wank
Kruis and Daly were terrible.
Daly terrible? What were you watching?
+1. For some reason though (Ioane's try I presume) I can see this is already becoming a FACT
The try where Williams didn't catch it. That try was Williams fault not Dalys
Two guys that played mid week !!!!

I'd stick with them both - they did lots of good stuff.
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Silver wrote:Some of the rated Lions are not really that good

Kruis is not even close to the league of the AB locks
Farrell is not a 1st 5. He looks a plodder
Trump...
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Tony Blair's Therapist wrote:
ovalball wrote:Congrats Abs - outplayed us. Really bossed the breakdown.

Bit disappointed with our back row forwards - really didn't make much impact. And our pack struggled a bit.

JD2 had a fine game as did Williams. Webb looked sharp when he arrived.

Not all bad though - got caught napping a couple of times and got pinged too often, but some excellent breaks from the back 3.

Difficult to know if different selections would help - definitely need to do more at the breakdown.
It's a great shame Billy V wasn't fit.
And Dane Coles.
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Duff Paddy wrote:
Hareaway wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
sunnybanana wrote:
Magic wrote:Peyper showing his true colours now.
Weak post. He's been fine. Lions haven't been good enough.
He's been absolutely dogshit. And now he's giving a load of late penalties to the lions when the game is over in order to take the edge off his one sided stats

You get a smiley ... just for being a simple whinging cvnt
:lol:
Said it constantly about this ref he is awful, panned out at predicted. No complaints about the kiwi win the best team won but we all want a fair go
But you said fark all when Raynal was making shit up! You can't have it both ways, nancy!
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fatcat wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
fatcat wrote:Christ what a shit game and weak Lions performance. :(
It was a great test match in my opinion.
You must be very easily pleased.
What the fudge is wrong with you? Aside from the result going against you that was a cracking match. Lots of too-and-fro and the Lions were in it a long time.

The Lions fans in this thread turn rabid against their team quicker than we ever do.
Fair enough, but I thought it was boring and the Lions had no answer to a NZ who barely reached third gear. The series is over.
Just as a matter of interest because this comes up all the time...every time I watch a team play NZ and lose the whole NZ never got out of third gear thing comes up. When have they against a tier 1 opponent in the last 5 years? Serious question.
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Duff Paddy wrote:Interesting interview with mr. acromegaly himself
He is going to be pretty ugly when he has finished his career
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mr bungle wrote:
Zico wrote:At the breakdown Peyper neutered the Lions in the first few minutes by applying one rule for NZ to compete at will while penalising the Lions in a fair contest. NZ didn't need the help but they got it.
Utter bullshit. You were dominated at the breakdown.
Indeed. Sam Cane destroyed them.
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Lions' half-backs were completely outplayed. As predicted, Farrell was gash at 10. No pace or quick feet, just a plodding passer and good kicker. Couldn't do those things right either tonight. Don't know if the lack of spark outside him convinced Murray to rely on kick-and-hope tactics but that didn't work much either. Just gave the ball back to the ABs. In his cameo, Webb showed what pace and invention can do. He should start 2nd test. Sexton was meh when he came on but is more likely to create something than Farrell ever will.
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