Teo gone, Kruis gone, O Mahoney gone

PornDog · Post by **PornDog** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:50 pm

hermie wrote:
DragsterDriver wrote:
CM11 wrote:
hermie wrote:I like the team, there I said it. On AWJ apparently he got a knock early in the first test. I thought he went well against the Crusaders which was our best game on tour. He needs to massively up his game but so do all the tight 5 if we're being honest.
My worry about AWJ is that he's not sharp and has not looked sharp all tour even in the games he supposedly played well. Fingers crossed for the guy because obviously he's quality on his best days.
He's looked tired. Modern rugby is for young men and freaks only.
He's got a lot of miles on the clock but he's only 31. Still young for a lock forward.

I thought he was 34 or 35!

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:08 pm

jezzer wrote:
nardol wrote:7 posts

fook off noob

and dont come back
Joined 2 weeks after you, plum

Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board

Corkmunsterman · Post by **Corkmunsterman** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:09 pm

JM2K6 wrote:
jezzer wrote:
nardol wrote:7 posts

fook off noob

and dont come back
Joined 2 weeks after you, plum
Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board

this is the 3rd iteration now?

jezzer · Post by **jezzer** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:13 pm

JM2K6 wrote:
jezzer wrote:
nardol wrote:7 posts

fook off noob

and dont come back
Joined 2 weeks after you, plum
Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board

Too thick to know I was on the previous version of the bored.

How much richer the bored would have been if I also chose to fill it over the last 5 years with emojis and twatspeak like you

hermie · Post by **hermie** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:15 pm

let him have it jizzer!

penguin · Post by **penguin** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:15 pm

Corkmunsterman wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
jezzer wrote:
nardol wrote:7 posts

fook off noob

and dont come back
Joined 2 weeks after you, plum
Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board
this is the 3rd iteration now?

Did you know that the first bored was designed to be a perfect forum? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire threads were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect rugby forum. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect bored was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the planet rugby forum was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization.

nardol · Post by **nardol** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:17 pm

its the suffering that is part and parcel of the experience that prevents people from leaving

cubby boi · Post by **cubby boi** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:18 pm

jezzer wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
jezzer wrote:
nardol wrote:7 posts

fook off noob

and dont come back
Joined 2 weeks after you, plum
Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board
Too thick to know I was on the previous version of the bored.

How much richer the bored would have been if I also chose to fill it over the last 5 years with emojis and twatspeak like you

Jezzer is my hero.

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:19 pm

jezzer wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
jezzer wrote:
nardol wrote:7 posts

fook off noob

and dont come back
Joined 2 weeks after you, plum
Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board
Too thick to know I was on the previous version of the bored.

How much richer the bored would have been if I also chose to fill it over the last 5 years with emojis and twatspeak like you

Well, you'd have gotten the "shitting your pants in public" stage of your posting career out of the way much sooner...

jezzer · Post by **jezzer** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:22 pm

JM2K6 wrote:
jezzer wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
jezzer wrote:
nardol wrote:7 posts

fook off noob

and dont come back
Joined 2 weeks after you, plum
Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board
Too thick to know I was on the previous version of the bored.

How much richer the bored would have been if I also chose to fill it over the last 5 years with emojis and twatspeak like you
Well, you'd have gotten the "shitting your pants in public" stage of your posting career out of the way much sooner...

Shitting truth down on the heads of the less informed.

penguin · Post by **penguin** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:22 pm

nardol wrote:its the suffering that is part and parcel of the experience that prevents people from leaving

The whiteouts are just part of the experience...a feature not a bug. Clever PR.

nardol · Post by **nardol** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:22 pm

cubby boi wrote:
jezzer wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
jezzer wrote:
nardol wrote:7 posts

fook off noob

and dont come back
Joined 2 weeks after you, plum
Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board
Too thick to know I was on the previous version of the bored.

How much richer the bored would have been if I also chose to fill it over the last 5 years with emojis and twatspeak like you
Jezzer is my hero.

Like an endorsement from a pedophile

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:23 pm

jezzer wrote:Shitting truth down on the heads of the less informed.

We've seen SOB be a tackle-buster on this very tour, and you thought the join dates were the original ones - sounds like you have Silver's approach to the truth, so welcome to the bored

Brewster · Post by **Brewster** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:25 pm

Jeff the Bear wrote:
Rumham wrote:
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
Rumham wrote:Jeepers.

Is he seriously considering Jack Nowell to come on to save the game?

If this is true then AWJ then definitely has the pictures.
In fairness to AWJ he has form for pulling out big games. Hopefully he goes well
Last Saturday would have been a good time to do that.

Itoje, Lawes and Henderson are the 3 best locks on tour. All impact players.
Not one of them can call a lineout though.

Well, apart from Lawes doing it for Saints the last 3 years and England the last 2yrs

Post by **Hong Kong** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:25 pm

Now we've had a group tug, sloppy kisses and back-slapping can we get back to the atrocious selection by garland?

DragsterDriver · Post by **DragsterDriver** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:30 pm

PornDog wrote:
hermie wrote:
DragsterDriver wrote:
CM11 wrote:
hermie wrote:I like the team, there I said it. On AWJ apparently he got a knock early in the first test. I thought he went well against the Crusaders which was our best game on tour. He needs to massively up his game but so do all the tight 5 if we're being honest.
My worry about AWJ is that he's not sharp and has not looked sharp all tour even in the games he supposedly played well. Fingers crossed for the guy because obviously he's quality on his best days.
He's looked tired. Modern rugby is for young men and freaks only.
He's got a lot of miles on the clock but he's only 31. Still young for a lock forward.
I thought he was 34 or 35!

Plays like it.

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:30 pm

Hong Kong wrote:Now we've had a group tug, sloppy kisses and back-slapping can we get back to the atrocious selection by garland?

I don't think it's as bad as that. I think Hendo has earned a spot and Warburton/AWJ are selections which could backfire but it'd still a decent side.

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:30 pm

Hong Kong wrote:Now we've had a group tug, sloppy kisses and back-slapping can we get back to the atrocious selection by garland?

Yeah, sure. It's hard to argue that the selections of AWJ and Warburton aren't somewhat indicative of nepotism.

They are both fine players, but neither have been the best in their position on tour, thus far. It seems a contentious selection will always go to the player he has coached. Warburton has been injured, and out of form. AWJ has been inferior to Lawes, Hendo and Itoje (plus Kruis, for the most part, last game not-withstanding).

But then, they do bring a wealth of experience and leadership....

cubby boi · Post by **cubby boi** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:32 pm

nardol wrote:
cubby boi wrote:
jezzer wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:[quote="jezzer"

Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board
Too thick to know I was on the previous version of the bored.

How much richer the bored would have been if I also chose to fill it over the last 5 years with emojis and twatspeak like you
Jezzer is my hero.
Like an endorsement from a pedophile

Don't use your Priests name in vein, please.

Post by **Hong Kong** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:39 pm

Hawk97 wrote:
Hong Kong wrote:Now we've had a group tug, sloppy kisses and back-slapping can we get back to the atrocious selection by garland?
Yeah, sure. It's hard to argue that the selections of AWJ and Warburton aren't somewhat indicative of nepotism.

They are both fine players, but neither have been the best in their position on tour, thus far. It seems a contentious selection will always go to the player he has coached. Warburton has been injured, and out of form. AWJ has been inferior to Lawes, Hendo and Itoje (plus Kruis, for the most part, last game not-withstanding).

But then, they do bring a wealth of experience and leadership....

I have been a big fan of both players but they are are not up to this level. What did Warbs do when he came on to warrant selection? Sweet fark all. I'll accept that POM was not up to his best but what has Warbs done to justify his place? "He' wasn't as bad as POM?" Is that it???

As for AWJ, it's been shown elsewhere that his stats make him the 5th rated lock. He was knackered after the haka

nardol · Post by **nardol** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:51 pm

cubby boi wrote:
nardol wrote:
cubby boi wrote:
jezzer wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:[quote="jezzer"

Too newbie to know that all the Jan 2012 ones were carried over from a previous version of the board
Too thick to know I was on the previous version of the bored.

How much richer the bored would have been if I also chose to fill it over the last 5 years with emojis and twatspeak like you
Jezzer is my hero.
Like an endorsement from a pedophile
Don't use your Priests name in vein, please.

Protestant boyo

armchair pundit · Post by **armchair pundit** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:57 pm

Hong Kong wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Hong Kong wrote:Now we've had a group tug, sloppy kisses and back-slapping can we get back to the atrocious selection by garland?
Yeah, sure. It's hard to argue that the selections of AWJ and Warburton aren't somewhat indicative of nepotism.

They are both fine players, but neither have been the best in their position on tour, thus far. It seems a contentious selection will always go to the player he has coached. Warburton has been injured, and out of form. AWJ has been inferior to Lawes, Hendo and Itoje (plus Kruis, for the most part, last game not-withstanding).

But then, they do bring a wealth of experience and leadership....
I have been a big fan of both players but they are are not up to this level. What did Warbs do when he came on to warrant selection? Sweet fark all. I'll accept that POM was not up to his best but what has Warbs done to justify his place? "He' wasn't as bad as POM?" Is that it???

As for AWJ, it's been shown elsewhere that his stats make him the 5th rated lock. He was knackered after the haka

Will Tell · Post by **Will Tell** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:57 pm

2nd row situation is absurd.
Hendo went the full 80 on Tues -> ruled out for Sat.
Lawes 50+ on Tues following head knock issues
Kruis full 80 test on Sat then, what, 35+ on Tues? -> given the WE off
AWJ well off the pace last week, carrying a knock?

So we're going into the critical test with one 2nd row in good nick with a full tank. Contrast that with the performance of the All Braggs's 2nd row last week.
Are we ruing Launch's absence or what? Best engine, best at the breakdown, more motm performances than I have fingers (even before the accident...)

Also no specialist 15 apart from 1/2p (who also played most of the match on Tues). I applauded Williams's selection but his contribution was nil (+7 -7)... although his entertainment value was high

How's all that squared with the geographic 6?

and what's with Furlong? in the 6N he was like a colt in the fields in the loose. Sat he looked knackered

Anyway mustn't grumble

Li-ons!

hermie · Post by **hermie** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:17 pm

Hong Kong wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Hong Kong wrote:Now we've had a group tug, sloppy kisses and back-slapping can we get back to the atrocious selection by garland?
Yeah, sure. It's hard to argue that the selections of AWJ and Warburton aren't somewhat indicative of nepotism.

They are both fine players, but neither have been the best in their position on tour, thus far. It seems a contentious selection will always go to the player he has coached. Warburton has been injured, and out of form. AWJ has been inferior to Lawes, Hendo and Itoje (plus Kruis, for the most part, last game not-withstanding).

But then, they do bring a wealth of experience and leadership....
I have been a big fan of both players but they are are not up to this level. What did Warbs do when he came on to warrant selection? Sweet fark all. I'll accept that POM was not up to his best but what has Warbs done to justify his place? "He' wasn't as bad as POM?" Is that it???

As for AWJ, it's been shown elsewhere that his stats make him the 5th rated lock. He was knackered after the haka

I think the first two things Warbs did was miss a tackle and then get stripped of the ball with his first touch. Unfortunately for those missing out we can potentially offer more at the breakdown with him and Itoje starting because SOB was doing it all on his own last Saturday.

Gospel · Post by **Gospel** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:19 pm

Will Tell wrote:2nd row situation is absurd.
Hendo went the full 80 on Tues -> ruled out for Sat.
Lawes 50+ on Tues following head knock issues
Kruis full 80 test on Sat then, what, 35+ on Tues? -> given the WE off
AWJ well off the pace last week, carrying a knock?

So we're going into the critical test with one 2nd row in good nick with a full tank. Contrast that with the performance of the All Braggs's 2nd row last week.
Are we ruing Launch's absence or what? Best engine, best at the breakdown, more motm performances than I have fingers (even before the accident...)

Also no specialist 15 apart from 1/2p (who also played most of the match on Tues). I applauded Williams's selection but his contribution was nil (+7 -7)... although his entertainment value was high

How's all that squared with the geographic 6?

and what's with Furlong? in the 6N he was like a colt in the fields in the loose. Sat he looked knackered

Anyway mustn't grumble

Li-ons!

Post.

Chuckles1188 · Post by **Chuckles1188** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:21 pm

Will Tell wrote:2nd row situation is absurd.
Hendo went the full 80 on Tues -> ruled out for Sat.
Lawes 50+ on Tues following head knock issues
Kruis full 80 test on Sat then, what, 35+ on Tues? -> given the WE off
AWJ well off the pace last week, carrying a knock?

We were so convinced lock was going to be a position of strength going into this tour as well. WTF happened

hermie · Post by **hermie** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:24 pm

Chuckles1188 wrote:
Will Tell wrote:2nd row situation is absurd.
Hendo went the full 80 on Tues -> ruled out for Sat.
Lawes 50+ on Tues following head knock issues
Kruis full 80 test on Sat then, what, 35+ on Tues? -> given the WE off
AWJ well off the pace last week, carrying a knock?
We were so convinced lock was going to be a position of strength going into this tour as well. WTF happened

Came up against Retallick and Whitelock I think is your answer. I always felt Itoje should have started however.

Chuckles1188 · Post by **Chuckles1188** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:25 pm

hermie wrote:
Chuckles1188 wrote:
Will Tell wrote:2nd row situation is absurd.
Hendo went the full 80 on Tues -> ruled out for Sat.
Lawes 50+ on Tues following head knock issues
Kruis full 80 test on Sat then, what, 35+ on Tues? -> given the WE off
AWJ well off the pace last week, carrying a knock?
We were so convinced lock was going to be a position of strength going into this tour as well. WTF happened
Came up against Retallick and Whitelock I think is your answer. I always felt Itoje should have started however.

It's not clear to me how the points outlined by Will Tell have anything to do with coming up against Retallick and Whitelock

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:29 pm

Chuckles1188 wrote:
hermie wrote:
Chuckles1188 wrote:
Will Tell wrote:2nd row situation is absurd.
Hendo went the full 80 on Tues -> ruled out for Sat.
Lawes 50+ on Tues following head knock issues
Kruis full 80 test on Sat then, what, 35+ on Tues? -> given the WE off
AWJ well off the pace last week, carrying a knock?
We were so convinced lock was going to be a position of strength going into this tour as well. WTF happened
Came up against Retallick and Whitelock I think is your answer. I always felt Itoje should have started however.
It's not clear to me how the points outlined by Will Tell have anything to do with coming up against Retallick and Whitelock

But it might have something to do with:

Spoiler: show

Plato'sCave · Post by **Plato'sCave** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:32 pm

Everyone's had their say. Now gents and ladies, let's all get behind the Lions.

Will Tell · Post by **Will Tell** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:34 pm

Chuckles1188 wrote:
Will Tell wrote:2nd row situation is absurd.
Hendo went the full 80 on Tues -> ruled out for Sat.
Lawes 50+ on Tues following head knock issues
Kruis full 80 test on Sat then, what, 35+ on Tues? -> given the WE off
AWJ well off the pace last week, carrying a knock?
We were so convinced lock was going to be a position of strength going into this tour as well. WTF happened

payback for leaving out Launchberry isn't it

he had the back or neck issue, didn't he but apart from that he's durable and rarely been injured

That has to be the worst call. Although selecting an injured Payne isn't far off
Bet Gats would give his right bollock at the moment for a reliable FB with pace that can pass; and the left one if he could go back & have selected Launch in the first place

Will Tell · Post by **Will Tell** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:39 pm

hermie wrote:
Chuckles1188 wrote:
Will Tell wrote:2nd row situation is absurd.
Hendo went the full 80 on Tues -> ruled out for Sat.
Lawes 50+ on Tues following head knock issues
Kruis full 80 test on Sat then, what, 35+ on Tues? -> given the WE off
AWJ well off the pace last week, carrying a knock?
We were so convinced lock was going to be a position of strength going into this tour as well. WTF happened
Came up against Retallick and Whitelock I think is your answer. I always felt Itoje should have started however.

on form Kruis & Itoje (and Henderson on Tuesday's form) can (at very nearly ) match them

but almost all our 2nd rows are either flogged, out of form or suspect fitness. htf did that happen

jezzer · Post by **jezzer** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:46 pm

JM2K6 wrote:
jezzer wrote:Shitting truth down on the heads of the less informed.
We've seen SOB be a tackle-buster on this very tour, and you thought the join dates were the original ones - sounds like you have Silver's approach to the truth, so welcome to the bored

Cheers!

I was careful to say SOB still had the occasional linebreak - and he hasn't been bad so far on the tour - but you sacrifice a fair bit playing him at 7. He's on the mix for me at 6 but no lock. Tipuric has been the best of a mediocre enough bunch of 7s.

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:52 pm

Ah, Tips has tackled well and looked lively but he's neither come out on top at the breakdown nor really had a big impact in the loose IMO. He's put the effort in but the rewards haven't come.

theo · Post by **theo** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:57 pm

I applauded Williams's selection but his contribution was nil (+7 -7)... although his entertainment value was high

Technically -2 as Farrell missed the conversion. Not his fault mind.

Gospel · Post by **Gospel** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:59 pm

What the Lions need are players that can put in dominant tackles and blitz the breakdown to slow down the speed of New Zealand ball. I am pleased that Itoje is starting as he is one player that can really deliver on this front.

Will Tell · Post by **Will Tell** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:05 pm

theo wrote:
I applauded Williams's selection but his contribution was nil (+7 -7)... although his entertainment value was high
Technically -2 as Farrell missed the conversion. Not his fault mind.

too right

theo · Post by **theo** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:07 pm

Gospel wrote:What the Lions need are players that can put in dominant tackles and blitz the breakdown to slow down the speed of New Zealand ball. I am pleased that Itoje is starting as he is one player that can really deliver on this front.

The other probably being Tipuric.....

jezzer · Post by **jezzer** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:12 pm

Gospel wrote:What the Lions need are players that can put in dominant tackles and blitz the breakdown to slow down the speed of New Zealand ball. I am pleased that Itoje is starting as he is one player that can really deliver on this front.

What NZ always bring in big tests is intensity. They just wade into the breakdown, they hit you at every possibe chance, they roll over you if you let them.

It's hard enough to counter that with a grinding kick chase defensive gameplan, but it's even harder when you pick guys who don't climb into the opposition with the necessary disregard for personal safety. Itoje and Lawes and Henderson for me are the total no brainer lock choices for the squad because they love that shit and have the physicality and fitness to bring it.

Edit: also why one outs are a f**king stoopid idea.

Will Tell · Post by **Will Tell** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:24 pm

jezzer wrote:
Gospel wrote:What the Lions need are players that can put in dominant tackles and blitz the breakdown to slow down the speed of New Zealand ball. I am pleased that Itoje is starting as he is one player that can really deliver on this front.
What NZ always bring in big tests is intensity. They just wade into the breakdown, they hit you at every possibe chance, they roll over you if you let them.

It's hard enough to counter that with a grinding kick chase defensive gameplan, but it's even harder when you pick guys who don't climb into the opposition with the necessary disregard for personal safety. Itoje and Lawes and Henderson for me are the total no brainer lock choices for the squad because they love that shit and have the physicality and fitness to bring it.

Edit: also why one outs are a f**king stoopid idea.

yeh but Lawes will knock himself out within 5 mins of coming on.
So Stander, who also went the full 80 on Tues, will be on at 6 or 2nd row (!) for the last 30+ or praps Warburton will shift to 5