OFFICIAL All Blacks vs B&I Lions THIRD TEST MATCH THREAD

Grizz Wyllie · Post by **Grizz Wyllie** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:23 am

WHEN:
Saturday 8th July

WHERE:
Auckland, New Zealand

KICKOFF:
Local time – 7.35pm
UK time – 8.35am
AEST - 5:35pm
SA time - 9:35am

VENUE:
Eden Park, Mt Eden

TEAMS:

Head Coach: Steve Hansen
Captain: Kieran Read

1. Joe Moody (27)
2. Codie Taylor (18)
3. Owen Franks (93)
4. Brodie Retallick (63)
5. Samuel Whitelock (87)
6. Jerome Kaino (80)
7. Sam Cane (43)
8. Kieran Read (99) - Captain
9. Aaron Smith (61)
10. Beauden Barrett (52)
11. Julian Savea (53)
12. Ngani Laumape (1)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (12)
14. Israel Dagg (64)
15. Jordie Barrett (1)

16. Nathan Harris (7)
17. Wyatt Crockett (61)
18. Charlie Faumuina (49)
19. Scott Barrett (7)
20. Ardie Savea (15)
21. TJ Perenara (32)
22. Aaron Cruden (49)
23. Malakai Fekitoa (23)

Head Coach: Warren Gatland
Captain: Sam Warburton

BACKS: Biggar, Daly, J Davies, Farrell, Halfpenny, Henshaw, Hogg (sent home due to injury), Joseph, Murray, North, Nowell, Payne, Sexton, Seymour, Te’o, Watson, Webb, L Williams, B Youngs (withdrew, replaced by Greig Laidlaw).

FORWARDS: Best, Cole, Faletau, Furlong, George, Henderson, Itoje, AW Jones, Kruis, Lawes, Marler, McGrath, Moriarty, O’Brien, O’Mahoney, Owens, Sinckler, Stander, Tipuric, M Vunipola, B Vunipola (sent home due to injury, replaced by James Haskell), Warburton (c)

RING-INS: Cory Hill, Kristian Dacey, Gareth Davies & Tomas Francis (all Wales) and Allan Dell & Finn Russell (both Scotland)

WEATHER:

REFEREES:
Romain Poite, France + Jerome Garces, France & Jaco Peyper, South Africa

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:25 am

Lions are going to be dominated

Ogre · Post by **Ogre** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:26 am

Fook me. How do you get these in so early.

Grizz Wyllie · Post by **Grizz Wyllie** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:27 am

Be good to have the All Blacks first-choice 12 back in the starting line.

JB1981 · Post by **JB1981** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:27 am

Where might one watch this in San Francisco? I'm out of the country for the biggest game in years

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Ogre · Post by **Ogre** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:29 am

JB1981 wrote:Where might one watch this in San Francisco? I'm out of the country for the biggest game in years .

Terrible planning that

comets · Post by **comets** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:29 am

Grizz Wyllie wrote:Be good to have the All Blacks first-choice 12 back in the starting line.

Ngatai is not available

Grizz Wyllie · Post by **Grizz Wyllie** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:29 am

I'll be honest, I won't spend the next 7 days shitting my pants.

comets · Post by **comets** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:33 am

Hope Naholo plays in the last test, Laumape at 12 if Crotty not available and Smith to 15., Dagg and Reiko can decide the bench place. Savea at 11

9. Aaron
10. BB
11. Savea
12. Laumape
13. ALB
14. Naholo
15. Ben from Accounts

Grizz Wyllie · Post by **Grizz Wyllie** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:36 am

Ben Smith's out for the series. Crotty in for SBW will be the only change.

Zico · Post by **Zico** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:36 am

NZ 2017 v Gatball Welsh Lions comfort blanket XV

Could be another draw.

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:36 am

Henderson in for AWJ and McGrath to start please.

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:40 am

Does a red card not mean an automatic one-match suspension?

comets · Post by **comets** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:42 am

Grizz Wyllie wrote:Ben Smith's out for the series. Crotty in for SBW will be the only change.

Fark, Dagg has been poor, but hopefully a back 3 of Dagg, Naholo and Savea could be useful, Ioane and Laumape to fight for Jersey 23

kiwidutchie · Post by **kiwidutchie** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:44 am

Grizz Wyllie wrote:Ben Smith's out for the series. Crotty in for SBW will be the only change.

Depends if Crotty is fit and Naholo is right in the head after the knock.

The Forwards won't change.

comets · Post by **comets** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:46 am

Anyone else get the State of Origin vibe from this test series?, think of the AB's as Queensland and the Lions as NSW, first game Queensland won convincingly then lost on their home turn in the 2nd game leading to a 3rd DECIDING test for which people will dish out a whole lot of money to watch, If tickets are still available i'm fuckign sure its price just went up by 20% ..

booji boy · Post by **booji boy** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:47 am

Kiwias wrote:Does a red card not mean an automatic one-match suspension?

I hope so. That plum SBW should not be anywhere near the test 23.

comets · Post by **comets** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:53 am

booji boy wrote:
Kiwias wrote:Does a red card not mean an automatic one-match suspension?
I hope so. That plum SBW should not be anywhere near the test 23.

Poor Naholo got hit too with his shoulder charge

no wonder he was concussed lol

ZW03 · Post by **ZW03** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:56 am

As much heart as they showed to win that a fired up New Zealand in the third will be a tough ask. in the context of being a man down for majority of the game they did pretty good out there.

comets · Post by **comets** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:02 am

Crotty at the ground, looks fit, we do not have to worry about Jersey 12 next week.

Minnosu · Post by **Minnosu** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:07 am

JB1981 wrote:Where might one watch this in San Francisco? I'm out of the country for the biggest game in years .

Kezar pub out by golden gate park. Timing is a bitch though. 1235am.

Dork Lard · Post by **Dork Lard** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:08 am

You guys should include a poll in these !

I think NZ is going to thrash them. You'd think the Lions won't just roll over, but it's not up to them. They can put in some good Lions Rugby in spurts, but they're not nearly on the same level as the AB, and certainly not over 80min. It's just a matter of how many the AB on the day will conjure. The AB always get up for the revenge game, and as their net superiority establishes, they'll add the extra effort to make up for today's defeat.

They couldn't get any speed going today when Aaron Smith had to slow down every breakdown to make sure his guys are in position for conservative phases being a man down. They had to be slow, and one-dimensional; red card= no speed, no variety in attack, too much kicking. They'll get that gorgeous fluidity and terrifying speed back in their execution next week, no doubt. Lions might score a try or two, but the AB will be on top of an impressive performance.

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:27 am

Sigh, another wet match predicted. I think this winter is being overly kind to the Lions.

Rugby2023 · Post by **Rugby2023** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:12 pm

Fat Old Git wrote:Sigh, another wet match predicted. I think this winter is being overly kind to the Lions.

Lions look more than capable of running it tbh, scored two good tries today and the try of the game in the previous test.

SecretAgentMan · Post by **SecretAgentMan** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:59 pm

Rugby2023 wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:Sigh, another wet match predicted. I think this winter is being overly kind to the Lions.
Lions look more than capable of running it tbh, scored two good tries today and the try of the game in the previous test.

Agreed. And the ABs will field yet another new midfield combination next week so you can expect even more Lions tries.

Auckman · Post by **Auckman** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:00 pm

Rugby2023 wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:Sigh, another wet match predicted. I think this winter is being overly kind to the Lions.
Lions look more than capable of running it tbh, scored two good tries today and the try of the game in the previous test.

Yep, Lions can score backline tries don't worry about that.

Massive match.

Tehui · Post by **Tehui** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:02 pm

Rugby2023 wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:Sigh, another wet match predicted. I think this winter is being overly kind to the Lions.
Lions look more than capable of running it tbh, scored two good tries today and the try of the game in the previous test.

They've exposed the ABs a few times out wide now.

According to the Lions fans on PR, their team deserves to start as favourites.

Gospel · Post by **Gospel** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:08 pm

Tehui wrote:According to the Lions fans on PR, their team deserves to start as favourites.

Can you name and shame as that's a ridiculous claim. New Zealand are nailed on. The Lions are just making up the numbers.

Grizz Wyllie · Post by **Grizz Wyllie** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:30 pm

SBW's citing at 5pm Sunday. Not sure when any other citings - if there are any - will take place.

Jim Lahey · Post by **Jim Lahey** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:32 pm

Match of the century tbf

Post by **Jake** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:32 pm

Grizz Wyllie wrote:SBW's citing at 5pm Sunday. Not sure when any other citings - if there are any - will take place.

Grizz, believe it's 4 weeks for head contact entry level, so I'm betting reduced to 2 for his previously good record?

I feel that's wholly fair.

Zico · Post by **Zico** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:37 pm

This is a weird sensation.

Which ABs f**ked up?.. discuss.

Zico · Post by **Zico** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:41 pm

comets wrote:15. Ben from Accounts

5 guys who make tea for Ben.

Fenman · Post by **Fenman** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:46 pm

Jake wrote:
Grizz Wyllie wrote:SBW's citing at 5pm Sunday. Not sure when any other citings - if there are any - will take place.
Grizz, believe it's 4 weeks for head contact entry level, so I'm betting reduced to 2 for his previously good record?

I feel that's wholly fair.

Jake, you are being unbelievably optimistic. Given the make up of the panel, the only suspension is likely to be the referee for daring to send off an All Black in contravention of the Spiritual Guardian's sub-clause in the rules.

RWC2015 · Post by **RWC2015** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:30 pm

McGrath
George
Furlong
AW Jones
Itoje
Warburton (c)
O’Brien
Faletau
Murray
Sexton
Watson
Farrell
Davies
Daly
L Williams

Cole
Best (won't be)
Marler/Vunipola
Lawes
Henderson/Nowell
Stander
Te’o
Webb

Old Man by the Sea · Post by **Old Man by the Sea** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:43 pm

Not sure if I understand the Lions fans confidence. A better job at kicking and the AB's win even playing a man down without one of their top players. Now it's not the fault of the Lions that SBW did what he did but to somehow think your as good as the All Blacks for the upcoming game makes no sense. A little humility is in order don't you think ?

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:45 pm

Old Man by the Sea wrote:Not sure if I understand the Lions fans confidence. A better job at kicking and the AB's win even playing a man down without one of their top players. Now it's not the fault of the Lions that SBW did what he did but to somehow think your as good as the All Blacks for the upcoming game makes no sense. A little humility is in order don't you think ?

Where do comments like this come from? Is there a sea of "we're going to thrash them in the 3rd Test" posts from Lions fans that I've missed?

armchair pundit · Post by **armchair pundit** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:45 pm

Jim Lahey wrote:Match of the century tbf

except we all know the lions will get dicked on.

bimboman · Post by **bimboman** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:48 pm

Old Man by the Sea wrote:Not sure if I understand the Lions fans confidence. A better job at kicking and the AB's win even playing a man down without one of their top players. Now it's not the fault of the Lions that SBW did what he did but to somehow think your as good as the All Blacks for the upcoming game makes no sense. A little humility is in order don't you think ?

Can you direct us to these posts from Lions fans, they've almost to a man said we'll get beat next week.

Old Man by the Sea · Post by **Old Man by the Sea** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:51 pm

bimboman wrote:
Old Man by the Sea wrote:Not sure if I understand the Lions fans confidence. A better job at kicking and the AB's win even playing a man down without one of their top players. Now it's not the fault of the Lions that SBW did what he did but to somehow think your as good as the All Blacks for the upcoming game makes no sense. A little humility is in order don't you think ?

Can you direct us to these posts from Lions fans, they've almost to a man said we'll get beat next week.

How can the next match be "the match of the century" if the All Blacks have dominated the series ?
Perhaps looking at an upset win I guess ?