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He got off lightly for the first imo, and he was very close to connecting properly to BB's head with the second incident.

He'll probably and deservedly lose his place next week.
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J Man wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:Will be interesting to see how many kiwis on this thread were defending the foul play in Dublin...
Sexton's high tackle on Barrett?
Straight red all day long
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I don't think Mako would have been carded at all if SBW hadn't already got a red (and assuming he hadn't just given away the dumb penalty for a similar offense moments earlier).

It was at a level that deserved a yellow, but I think it would likely have been ignored.

SBW's was a clear red though.
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Floppykid wrote:He got off lightly for the first imo, and he was very close to connecting properly to BB's head with the second incident.

He'll probably and deservedly lose his place next week.
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Tehui wrote:
Auckman wrote:Someone could be cited for the swinging arm that took Naholo out of the game.
Sean O'Brien. It's hard to tell whether it was intentional. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Can see him being cited. There is no reason to swing the arm in those circumstance, you are just courting trouble so it's reckless if nothing else.
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Mr Mike wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:I thought SBWs was a very cynical piece of thuggery and cowardice, which is a shame because I think he's a great.
I don't think it was cynical nor that he is a great. It is a legacy of time spent in a code where that is not uncommon and I doubt he gave it enough thought to foster any cynical intent.

I feel for him, as he will be hurting, but unless he can eliminate that from his game he won't thrive with the current expectations.

Glad Watson wasn't seriously injured.
Did Jordi Barrett play league too? Because he put a pretty similar head shot in on 1/2p just before Seymour's 2nd try. It was late and a no-wrap shoulder to the jaw.

O'Brien dosent have any reasoning for going in with a swinging arm, whether or not he meant to clean Nadolo out, which I personally guess he did.
I think it's convenient to put it on league. These swinging arm hits are getting much more prevalent and they're chickenshit plays.
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Tehui wrote:Vunipola's looked particularly nasty. The way he dived in on a player lying on the ground with the pointy end of his shoulder, after the ball had already left. You could tell by the glint in his eye that he wanted to seriously hurt somebody. That could have put him in ward 4.
I hope not, Tehui. That's a maternity ward.
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Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:
Tehui wrote:Vunipola's looked particularly nasty. The way he dived in on a player lying on the ground with the pointy end of his shoulder, after the ball had already left. You could tell by the glint in his eye that he wanted to seriously hurt somebody. That could have put him in ward 4.
I hope not, Tehui. That's a maternity ward.
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Demilich wrote:I don't think Mako would have been carded at all if SBW hadn't already got a red (and assuming he hadn't just given away the dumb penalty for a similar offense moments earlier).

It was at a level that deserved a yellow, but I think it would likely have been ignored.

SBW's was a clear red though.
God almighty. Not even a penalty right?
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Toro wrote:
Demilich wrote:I don't think Mako would have been carded at all if SBW hadn't already got a red (and assuming he hadn't just given away the dumb penalty for a similar offense moments earlier).

It was at a level that deserved a yellow, but I think it would likely have been ignored.

SBW's was a clear red though.
God almighty. Not even a penalty right?
If it had Been a clear out on a forward there would,probably not even been a penalty, as pointed out both teams had been clearing out off their feet all game.
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bimboman wrote:
Toro wrote:
Demilich wrote:I don't think Mako would have been carded at all if SBW hadn't already got a red (and assuming he hadn't just given away the dumb penalty for a similar offense moments earlier).

It was at a level that deserved a yellow, but I think it would likely have been ignored.

SBW's was a clear red though.
God almighty. Not even a penalty right?
If it had Been a clear out on a forward there would,probably not even been a penalty, as pointed out both teams had been clearing out off their feet all game.
There was nothing else in the game even close to MV's brain fart (when cleaning out), go find one example please otherwise stop spouting shite. It had absolutely nothing to do with him clearing out off his feet.
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Keith wrote:One was a deliberate shoulder charge to the head at speed, the other a legitimate ruck clearout with the TMO desperate to get a Lion binned or red carded.
Do you even bother reading the rules, or just post under some delusional idea that you actually know what you are talking about, this bored is seriously getting worse x(
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Toro wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Toro wrote:
Demilich wrote:I don't think Mako would have been carded at all if SBW hadn't already got a red (and assuming he hadn't just given away the dumb penalty for a similar offense moments earlier).

It was at a level that deserved a yellow, but I think it would likely have been ignored.

SBW's was a clear red though.
God almighty. Not even a penalty right?
If it had Been a clear out on a forward there would,probably not even been a penalty, as pointed out both teams had been clearing out off their feet all game.
There was nothing else in the game even close to MV's brain fart (when cleaning out), go find one example please otherwise stop spouting shite. It had absolutely nothing to do with him clearing out off his feet.

There were plenty of players on both teams diving off their feet at rucks.
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jaymon112 wrote:Despicable really.
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Sprig wrote:
jaymon112 wrote:Despicable really.
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He's a very lucky boy he actually managed to make some impact with his curled right arm and his left hand to get Barrett moving backwards - if the first point of contact is shoulder to head he's in real trouble. As it is you can't really say his right arm on Barrett's arm isn't the majority of that force.

Also lucky for Barrett, that would've been lights out :uhoh:
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The shoulder doesn't really hit BB, yellow for reckless and off feet. The stuff coming back comparing to SBW challenge are hilarious if they weren't so sad.
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I don't think anyone is seriously saying they were the same or deserved the same sanction. But only one of those incidents has anyone defending it.
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Tehui wrote:Vunipola's looked particularly nasty. The way he dived in on a player lying on the ground with the pointy end of his shoulder, after the ball had already left. You could tell by the glint in his eye that he wanted to seriously hurt somebody. That could have put him in ward 4.
I hope not Tehui, that's the maternity ward.

Edit: nuts...just saw GoN's post
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bimboman wrote:
Toro wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Toro wrote:
Demilich wrote:I don't think Mako would have been carded at all if SBW hadn't already got a red (and assuming he hadn't just given away the dumb penalty for a similar offense moments earlier).

It was at a level that deserved a yellow, but I think it would likely have been ignored.

SBW's was a clear red though.
God almighty. Not even a penalty right?
If it had Been a clear out on a forward there would,probably not even been a penalty, as pointed out both teams had been clearing out off their feet all game.
There was nothing else in the game even close to MV's brain fart (when cleaning out), go find one example please otherwise stop spouting shite. It had absolutely nothing to do with him clearing out off his feet.
There were plenty of players on both teams diving off their feet at rucks.
I'm pretty sure that wasn't what the yellow was for. (there's a gif above for you)
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Sprig wrote:
jaymon112 wrote:Despicable really.
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:lol: :lol: Jesus, god help us if that was Cane on Murray. Watching that now MV is a very lucky boy.
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I'd say he'll get cited and a 3 week ban for that.
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Demilich wrote:I don't think Mako would have been carded at all if SBW hadn't already got a red (and assuming he hadn't just given away the dumb penalty for a similar offense moments earlier).

It was at a level that deserved a yellow, but I think it would likely have been ignored.

SBW's was a clear red though.
Seriously :lol: So a premeditated attack on a player on the ground is perfectly fine by you, got it.
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That filth on Barrett is just as bad as SBWs shoulder charge look how his head hits the ground for the love of fudge these NH crims are filth.
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Toro wrote:
Sprig wrote:
jaymon112 wrote:Despicable really.
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:lol: :lol: Jesus, god help us if that was Cane on Murray. Watching that now MV is a very lucky boy.
If that was Cane on Murray the meltdown would be spectacular. What is utterly stupid about it is that Barrett is so far from the ball and rolling away - it has no effect on the game what so ever.
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Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:
Tehui wrote:Vunipola's looked particularly nasty. The way he dived in on a player lying on the ground with the pointy end of his shoulder, after the ball had already left. You could tell by the glint in his eye that he wanted to seriously hurt somebody. That could have put him in ward 4.
I hope not, Tehui. That's a maternity ward.
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Flametop wrote:I'd say he'll get cited and a 3 week ban for that.
Barretts little 'soccer' look up to see if it had been noticed, before proceeding to roll around, will be taken into account. As will the fact that the ABs decided Barrett didn't need a HIA.
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Sprig wrote:
jaymon112 wrote:Despicable really.
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Who's a lucky boy then...
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Fat Old Git wrote:I don't think anyone is seriously saying they were the same or deserved the same sanction. But only one of those incidents has anyone defending it.
There's people here saying it was worse.
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camroc1 wrote:
Flametop wrote:I'd say he'll get cited and a 3 week ban for that.
Barretts little 'soccer' look up to see if it had been noticed, before proceeding to roll around, will be taken into account. As will the fact that the ABs decided Barrett didn't need a HIA.
Fuck some of you are pathetic. :lol:
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bimboman wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:I don't think anyone is seriously saying they were the same or deserved the same sanction. But only one of those incidents has anyone defending it.
There's people here saying it was worse.
The proof is always in the gif take your eye patch off it literally is the same level of bad
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Toro wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Flametop wrote:I'd say he'll get cited and a 3 week ban for that.
Barretts little 'soccer' look up to see if it had been noticed, before proceeding to roll around, will be taken into account. As will the fact that the ABs decided Barrett didn't need a HIA.
fudge some of you are pathetic. :lol:
Says "jumping into the tackle" bloke.
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bimboman wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:I don't think anyone is seriously saying they were the same or deserved the same sanction. But only one of those incidents has anyone defending it.
There's people here saying it was worse.
There are!!! :x
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bimboman wrote:
Toro wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Flametop wrote:I'd say he'll get cited and a 3 week ban for that.
Barretts little 'soccer' look up to see if it had been noticed, before proceeding to roll around, will be taken into account. As will the fact that the ABs decided Barrett didn't need a HIA.
fudge some of you are pathetic. :lol:
Says "jumping into the tackle" bloke.
Haha, I'm glad you felt that was also directed at you.
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Toro wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Toro wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Flametop wrote:I'd say he'll get cited and a 3 week ban for that.
Barretts little 'soccer' look up to see if it had been noticed, before proceeding to roll around, will be taken into account. As will the fact that the ABs decided Barrett didn't need a HIA.
fudge some of you are pathetic. :lol:
Says "jumping into the tackle" bloke.
Haha, I'm glad you felt that was also directed at you.

Was it ? I replied on the basis of it being true.
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Will this fatty by cited he coulda squashed him which then Barrett coulda diod fukn outrage.
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Clog50Percent wrote:Will this fatty by cited he coulda squashed him which then Barrett coulda diod fukn outrage.
Mods, if hellraiser was done, this guy needs the same treatment.
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bimboman wrote:The shoulder doesn't really hit BB, yellow for reckless and off feet. The stuff coming back comparing to SBW challenge are hilarious if they weren't so sad.
Mako's elbow hits BB in the face.
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Sonny Blount wrote:
bimboman wrote:The shoulder doesn't really hit BB, yellow for reckless and off feet. The stuff coming back comparing to SBW challenge are hilarious if they weren't so sad.
Mako's elbow hits BB in the face.

You know there a gif of the incident actually on this page which people can see and stuff.
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So with SOB being cited, does that mean there's nothing for Vunipola, or could that still be decided later?
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