Combined SOB Citing Thread

Banana Man · Post by **Banana Man** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:44 am

https://twitter.com/union2525/status/881073226490626048

YOYO · Post by **YOYO** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:44 am

Yourmother wrote:
YOYO wrote:What about Cane's elbow on Davis?

Vid here.

https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/stat ... 3901607936

Worth a citing surely.
That ship may have sailed Yoyo. Did he cause an injury? Did Mako get cited?

Would be an injustice is all I'm saying. (of course I may be slightly biased)

Hareaway · Post by **Hareaway** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:45 am

Willie Falloon wrote:Surely can't be long bow??

depends who is drawing it i guess

Diego · Post by **Diego** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:46 am

Banana Man wrote:https://twitter.com/union2525/status/881073226490626048

That is the exact same as the one Vunipola did. If anything Taylor makes more contact.

Kid A · Post by **Kid A** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:46 am

Yourmother wrote: Did he cause an injury?

What the shitting heck has that got to do with anything?

PornDog · Post by **PornDog** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:47 am

There is a huge prevalence nowadays for contact with the leading arm down by the body (with contact then made either with the shoulder or upper arm - it needs to be f**king stamped out sharpish

Hareaway · Post by **Hareaway** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:48 am

Diego wrote:
Banana Man wrote:https://twitter.com/union2525/status/881073226490626048
That is the exact same as the one Vunipola did. If anything Taylor makes more contact.

But then just after that he ...

oh you are oirish ... dont worry ... rugby is not for you

Auckman · Post by **Auckman** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:50 am

Any word yet? His hearing really should be telecast live on NZ television.

jezzer · Post by **jezzer** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:56 am

I believe SOB goes in to dislodge the ball. HE isn't aiming for Naholo's head but Naholo gets driven forward as Sean swings and he hits him. So there's no great intent there at all.

That said, he should get a ban because:
1) you can't sanction only intent, you have to sanction outcome
2) Naholo head moved toward Sean, in my view causing the impact but Sean chose to swing his arm in there and he has to accept that he didn't have to
3) The citing commissioner isn't going to want to be seen as having been wrong in calling it a red card offence and the panel will only overturn him if it's a complete cockup by him, which this isn't.

What's good for the goose is good for the Tank. Harsh but fair.

shabadoo · Post by **shabadoo** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:57 am

RWC2015 wrote:
Bindi wrote:The northern posters on this thread calling for SOB to be let off scott-free surely can't be the same ones calling for James Horwill's public execution for an unsighted tap with the foot last Lions tour.
I can see both sides. Think he's more likely to get a week or two and if so, so be it. Three Kiwis should have got the same for worse incidents during the Dublin game a few months ago. That's the annoying bit.
So:
- consistency with recent decisions, budy muchanics, hud clash etc: 0 weeks
- consistency with player welfare and long-term player health, good of the game: 2 weeks

Rules were changed afterwards...only 1 of the Kiwi 'tackles' in that game should have been a red by the rules at the time (Fekitoa).

The kiwis clearly went out to identify a potential issue with player safety by trying to decapitate a player every time they could. And they succeeded in getting the rules changed.

Truly the Spiritual Guardians of the game

HighKingLeinster · Post by **HighKingLeinster** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:57 am

Willie Falloon wrote:Surely can't be long bow??

Yeah i always thought he was more of a cross bow man. He likes to inflict maximum damage from minimum range

YOYO · Post by **YOYO** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:58 am

Auckman wrote:Any word yet? His hearing really should be telecast live on NZ television.

I heard SOB is on the run driving down highway 55 in a white Ford Bronco with a stream of PR forum nutters on his tail.

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:03 pm

Hareaway wrote:
Diego wrote:
Banana Man wrote:https://twitter.com/union2525/status/881073226490626048
That is the exact same as the one Vunipola did. If anything Taylor makes more contact.

But then just after that he ...

oh you are oirish ... dont worry ... rugby is not for you

Don't think it matters what he did after - it's a fair complaint that Taylor wasn't penalised for a late shoulder charge. But refs miss stuff, such is life. He was aggravatingly consistent so I can forgive him this one bit of inconsistency.

Hareaway · Post by **Hareaway** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:03 pm

I think he deserves a serious frown and sent on his way

Would love him to get 2 weeks just to watch the micks implode

armchair pundit · Post by **armchair pundit** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:04 pm

I wonder if he's doing his posh voice again in the hearing, like he did in the interview after the game yesterday.

Mr Mike · Post by **Mr Mike** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:06 pm

Hareaway wrote:I think he deserves a serious frown and sent on his way

Would love him to get 2 weeks just to watch the micks implode

It will run one way or other. Serious potential to even bring the French in if the time gets bumped up because of SOB's prior ban for Pape.
Mods need to be standing by for quick mergers

UncleFB · Post by **UncleFB** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:08 pm

Hareaway wrote:I think he deserves a serious frown and sent on his way

Would love him to get 2 weeks just to watch the micks implode

I think they're already imploding ....

RWC2015 · Post by **RWC2015** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:09 pm

shabadoo wrote:
RWC2015 wrote:
Bindi wrote:The northern posters on this thread calling for SOB to be let off scott-free surely can't be the same ones calling for James Horwill's public execution for an unsighted tap with the foot last Lions tour.
I can see both sides. Think he's more likely to get a week or two and if so, so be it. Three Kiwis should have got the same for worse incidents during the Dublin game a few months ago. That's the annoying bit.
So:
- consistency with recent decisions, budy muchanics, hud clash etc: 0 weeks
- consistency with player welfare and long-term player health, good of the game: 2 weeks
Rules were changed afterwards...only 1 of the Kiwi 'tackles' in that game should have been a red by the rules at the time (Fekitoa).

The kiwis clearly went out to identify a potential issue with player safety by trying to decapitate a player every time they could. And they succeeded in getting the rules changed.

Truly the Spiritual Guardians of the game

I don't think the directive could really be considered a rule change. More of a clarification of a rule, which wasn't in fact a clarification if you read it:

Reckless Tackle
A player is deemed to have made reckless contact during a tackle or attempted tackle or during other phases of the game if in making contact, the player knew or should have known that there was a risk of making contact with the head of an opponent, but did so anyway. This sanction applies even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders. This type of contact also applies to grabbing and rolling/ twisting around the head/ neck area even if the contact starts below the line of the shoulders.

Minimum sanction: Yellow card

Maximum sanction: Red card

clear as mud

http://laws.worldrugby.org/?domain=9&language=EN

Yourmother · Post by **Yourmother** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:09 pm

no news still. 11pm in NZ. Press might be lights out until tomorrow NZ time.

Or lions not disclosing it until it can be accompanied by a full Gatland version of events.

YOYO · Post by **YOYO** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:09 pm

armchair pundit wrote:I wonder if he's doing his posh voice again in the hearing, like he did in the interview after the game yesterday.

This is just his regular Carlow accent and Carlow ain't posh.

https://youtu.be/3gF9C1orn2o

Sound posh to you? You must be from a right backward place if this is posh.

armchair pundit · Post by **armchair pundit** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:13 pm

YOYO wrote:
armchair pundit wrote:I wonder if he's doing his posh voice again in the hearing, like he did in the interview after the game yesterday.
This is just his regular Carlow accent and Carlow ain't posh.

https://youtu.be/3gF9C1orn2o

Sound posh to you? You must be from a right backward place if this is posh.

there are patches where he falls off it, but I reckon he's definitely going for his telephone voice in most of that. also in the one with Sky's interviewer.

RWC2015 · Post by **RWC2015** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:13 pm

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:14 pm

RWC2015 wrote:

That's nice. Not many players bother to visit their victims.

Mr Mike · Post by **Mr Mike** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:15 pm

JM2K6 wrote:
RWC2015 wrote:
That's nice. Not many players bother to visit their victims.

Still leading in with the elbow, 26 weeks.

RWC2015 · Post by **RWC2015** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:15 pm

St. SOB

nardol · Post by **nardol** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:16 pm

2 weeks

armchair pundit · Post by **armchair pundit** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:21 pm

nardol wrote:2 weeks

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Floppykid · Post by **Floppykid** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:23 pm

Joke if true.

SamShark · Post by **SamShark** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:24 pm

Aaron Shingler called up

YOYO · Post by **YOYO** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:25 pm

nardol wrote:2 weeks

Of constipation?

harry 22 · Post by **harry 22** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:25 pm

nardol wrote:2 weeks

fake news

nardol · Post by **nardol** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:26 pm

apologies - thats what I think he will get.

Not a report of what he got.

bimboman · Post by **bimboman** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:26 pm

Yourmother wrote:
YOYO wrote:What about Cane's elbow on Davis?

Vid here.

https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/stat ... 3901607936

Worth a citing surely.
That ship may have sailed Yoyo. Did he cause an injury? Did Mako get cited?

Are you saying he should have faked injury like Barrett did ?

Floppykid · Post by **Floppykid** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:28 pm

nardol wrote:apologies - thats what I think he will get.

Not a report of what he got.

Ban him. Ban him now.

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:29 pm

My name is Seanie
I live on the second floor

RuggaBugga · Post by **RuggaBugga** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:32 pm

bimboman wrote:
Yourmother wrote:
YOYO wrote:What about Cane's elbow on Davis?

Vid here.

https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/stat ... 3901607936

Worth a citing surely.
That ship may have sailed Yoyo. Did he cause an injury? Did Mako get cited?

Are you saying he should have faked injury like Barrett did ?

You have a chip on your shoulder the size of a redwood tree.

big bad kiwis

bimboman · Post by **bimboman** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:34 pm

RuggaBugga wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Yourmother wrote:
YOYO wrote:What about Cane's elbow on Davis?

Vid here.

https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/stat ... 3901607936

Worth a citing surely.
That ship may have sailed Yoyo. Did he cause an injury? Did Mako get cited?

Are you saying he should have faked injury like Barrett did ?
You have a chip on your shoulder the size of a redwood tree.

big bad kiwis

How odd that a comment regarding one AB players actions receive that response.

Yourmother · Post by **Yourmother** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:35 pm

"Lions considering dropping players for indiscipline with Sean O'Brien cited for a swinging arm during win"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/ ... an-obrien/

Lions mgmt not happy.

JM2K6 · Post by **JM2K6** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:36 pm

Yourmother wrote:"Lions considering dropping players for indiscipline with Sean O'Brien cited for a swinging arm during win"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/ ... an-obrien/

Lions mgmt not happy.

i.e. Mako will lose his place, basically. And maybe Murray.

RuggaBugga · Post by **RuggaBugga** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:38 pm

bimboman wrote:
RuggaBugga wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Yourmother wrote:
YOYO wrote:What about Cane's elbow on Davis?

Vid here.

https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/stat ... 3901607936

Worth a citing surely.
That ship may have sailed Yoyo. Did he cause an injury? Did Mako get cited?

Are you saying he should have faked injury like Barrett did ?
You have a chip on your shoulder the size of a redwood tree.

big bad kiwis

How odd that a comment regarding one AB players actions receive that response.

How odd, pretty much sums you up.

You should stick to making a plum of yourself on the London fire thread you pathetic germ.