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Your Country's Hardest Pack

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I'll be corrected by Jake, but I'll go;

J. Probyn
B. Moore
J. White
M. Johnson
D. Grewcock
P. Winterbottom
N. Back
D. Richards

Go on...
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Claw
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Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello
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Needs more MOK.
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Jim Lahey wrote:Claw
Best
Hayes
Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello
Few of those lads in action here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hekw9Q0b_eI&t=69s

Paddy Johns also on one that day. Enjoyed Maggs sizing Teichmann up, then thinking better of it. Perfect game for Brennan to come off the bench too
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Hawk97 wrote:I'll be corrected by Jake, but I'll go;

J. Probyn
R. Cockerill
J. White
M. Johnson
D. Grewcock
P. Winterbottom
N. Back
D. Richards

Go on...
HRHRH in for the midget
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Kiwias wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:I'll be corrected by Jake, but I'll go;

J. Probyn
R. Cockerill
J. White
M. Johnson
D. Grewcock
P. Winterbottom
N. Back
D. Richards

Go on...
HRHRH in for the midget
Maybe. Both of them kept the dentist and doctor busy, but Back had a genuine nasty streak. Apparently floored some saffer in a pub out of not very much :uhoh:
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Hawk97 wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:I'll be corrected by Jake, but I'll go;

J. Probyn
R. Cockerill
J. White
M. Johnson
D. Grewcock
P. Winterbottom
N. Back
D. Richards

Go on...
HRHRH in for the midget
Maybe. Both of them kept the dentist and doctor busy, but Back had a genuine nasty streak. Apparently floored some saffer in a pub out of not very much :uhoh:
Fair enough.
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Let's see a kiwi one? I reckon it's between England and NZ for the 'ardist!
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Hawk97 wrote:Let's see a kiwi one? I reckon it's between England and NZ for the 'ardist!

French or Saffa is its violence you want.
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Grewcock over Shawsy? Just no.
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Crash_12 wrote:Grewcock over Shawsy? Just no.
Easily. Grewcock was an animal.
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Crash_12 wrote:Grewcock over Shawsy? Just no.
Dooley would sh*t on both of them.
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Hawk97 wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:I'll be corrected by Jake, but I'll go;

J. Probyn
R. Cockerill
J. White
M. Johnson
D. Grewcock
P. Winterbottom
N. Back
D. Richards

Go on...
HRHRH in for the midget
He didn't get as many caps as he should have done but John Hall was hard as nails.
Maybe. Both of them kept the dentist and doctor busy, but Back had a genuine nasty streak. Apparently floored some saffer in a pub out of not very much :uhoh:
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I suppose we need to clarify if thuggish behaviour adds to the hardness-ometer (that sounds wrong).
Grewcock was a thug, although Shaw was hardly a model player. I'd go for Shaw, seemed an uncompromising type.
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Crash_12 wrote:Grewcock over Shawsy? Just no.
Really any English lock over Dooley if considering 'hard' players is a no no. Though maybe Dooley belongs in his own section, psychotic or some such.

I'd probably find a place for Teague at 6, and I wouldn't entertain the idea of picking Cockerill over Moore
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Jim Lahey wrote:I suppose we need to clarify if thuggish behaviour adds to the hardness-ometer (that sounds wrong).
Grewcock was a thug, although Shaw was hardly a model player. I'd go for Shaw, seemed an uncompromising type.
As was Grewocock. Danny also boxed etc.
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I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
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Jim Lahey wrote:I suppose we need to clarify if thuggish behaviour adds to the hardness-ometer (that sounds wrong).
Grewcock was a thug, although Shaw was hardly a model player. I'd go for Shaw, seemed an uncompromising type.
True. I would have Thompson over Cockerill too.
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Props - Murdoch and Skinner (I don't know which one played where)
Locks - B.Thorn and Meads
Backrow - M. Shaw, Buck Shelford and McCaw

No idea who for hooker.
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Seneca of the Night wrote:Kevin Skinner
Futzy
Keith Murdoch
Pinetree Meads
Filth Oliver
Cowboy Shaw
Red Conway
Buck Shelford
No Rutchie?
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Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Must be going back a bit- they've been powder puff for the last two decades.
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J Man wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Must be going back a bit- they've been powder puff for the last two decades.
Betsen would need to be in the conversation.
Harry Ordinary gets an honourable mention for playing with a broken face for a couple of games.

* Dussatoir as well
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J Man wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Must be going back a bit- they've been powder puff for the last two decades.
70's and 80's they were full of genuine baby eaters, which is why Pitbull going out of his way to front them and wind them up was hilarious.
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Aussies will be a quiet on this thread...
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J Man wrote:Aussies will be a quiet on this thread...
Who?
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Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Going to attempt it;

1. Robert Paparemborde

4. Michel Palmie
5. Olivier Merle

7. Jean Pierre Rives
8. Marc Cécillon

Who was that front rower that went at it with Moore? Classic face of hard French bastards in the 90s.
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Nice article about 90's Anglo-French tension on the field.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... tions-1992
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Hawk97 wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:I'll be corrected by Jake, but I'll go;

J. Probyn
R. Cockerill
J. White
M. Johnson
D. Grewcock
P. Winterbottom
N. Back
D. Richards

Go on...
HRHRH in for the midget
Maybe. Both of them kept the dentist and doctor busy, but Back had a genuine nasty streak. Apparently floored some saffer in a pub out of not very much :uhoh:
Back was double hard and nasty with it. Apparently he could generate ridiculous power in a punch at close range, which he used often.
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7. Andre Venter
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Hawk97 wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Going to attempt it;

1. Robert Paparemborde

4. Michel Palmie
5. Olivier Merle

7. Jean Pierre Rives
8. Marc Cécillon

Who was that front rower that went at it with Moore? Classic face of hard French bastards in the 90s.
6. Benazzi
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Hawk97 wrote:I'll be corrected by Jake, but I'll go;

J. Probyn
R. Cockerill
J. White
M. Johnson
D. Grewcock
P. Winterbottom
N. Back
D. Richards

Go on...
'Iron Mike' Teague for Back and Dawe for Cockers. Dawe was the very definition of 'hard', made an appearance for Plymouth Albion aged 50, and still has an intimidating air about him - nice bloke, but you seriously wouldn't fuk with him.
Honourary mention to ex-Para Roger Spurrell, who misses out by virtue of not being capped.
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I was thinking about the 96 All Blacks forwards. Were Ian Jones and Robin Brooke actually good or were they just surrounded by class?
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J Man wrote:I was thinking about the 96 All Blacks forwards. Were Ian Jones and Robin Brooke actually good or were they just surrounded by class?
Jones was good and at that point in time Brooke was the best lock in the world.
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Jim Lahey wrote:Claw
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Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello
Willie Duggan for Vic
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Hawk97 wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Going to attempt it;

1. Robert Paparemborde

4. Michel Palmie
5. Olivier Merle

7. Jean Pierre Rives
8. Marc Cécillon

Who was that front rower that went at it with Moore? Classic face of hard French bastards in the 90s.
Tordo, and/or Moscato
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Seneca of the Night wrote:Kevin Skinner
Futzy
Keith Murdoch
Pinetree Meads
Filth Oliver
Cowboy Shaw
Red Conway
Buck Shelford
:nod:
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les@mooloolaba wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:Kevin Skinner
Futzy
Keith Murdoch
Pinetree Meads
Filth Oliver
Cowboy Shaw
Red Conway
Buck Shelford
:nod:
I might be tempted to take BBB at 5 -- imagine him with Pinetree :twisted:
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Beaver_Shark wrote:7. Andre Venter

Add Ruben Kruger at the other flank.
Bakkies and Frik du Preez at lock.
Mof Myburgh and Hempies du Toit at prop.
Shaun Tovey at hooker. Or Chris Rossouw.
Theuns Stoffberg (out of position) at 8thman.
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Red Chopper wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Going to attempt it;

1. Robert Paparemborde

4. Michel Palmie
5. Olivier Merle

7. Jean Pierre Rives
8. Marc Cécillon

Who was that front rower that went at it with Moore? Classic face of hard French bastards in the 90s.
Tordo, and/or Moscato
He's the hooker?
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Wallabies
1. Crowley
2. Lawton
3. Noriega
4. McCall
5. Cutler
6. Kefu
7. Willie O
8. Sam Scott Young
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