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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Beaver_Shark wrote:7. Andre Venter

Add Ruben Kruger at the other flank.
Bakkies and Frik du Preez at lock.
Mof Myburgh and Hempies du Toit at prop.
Shaun Tovey at hooker. Or Chris Rossouw.
Theuns Stoffberg (out of position) at 8thman.
Teishmann? Small? J Le Roux?
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CrazyIslander wrote:Wallabies
1. Crowley
2. Lawton
3. Noriega
4. McCall
5. Cutler
6. Kefu
7. Willie O
8. Sam Scott Young
I'd fancy Brial and Finnegan in there.
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Hawk97 wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:Wallabies
1. Crowley
2. Lawton
3. Noriega
4. McCall
5. Cutler
6. Kefu
7. Willie O
8. Sam Scott Young
I'd fancy Brial and Finnegan in there.
Not tough enough.
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Whisper it quietly but Shaw has a glass jaw, was told this by a teammate of his, a well kept secret!
I'd seriously consider John Hall in there.....and John Olver.
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Hawk97 wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Going to attempt it;

1. Robert Paparemborde

4. Michel Palmie
5. Olivier Merle

7. Jean Pierre Rives
8. Marc Cécillon

Who was that front rower that went at it with Moore? Classic face of hard French bastards in the 90s.
Ondarts?
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forrester wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Going to attempt it;

1. Robert Paparemborde

4. Michel Palmie
5. Olivier Merle

7. Jean Pierre Rives
8. Marc Cécillon

Who was that front rower that went at it with Moore? Classic face of hard French bastards in the 90s.
Ondarts?

:thumbup: Spot on

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Hawk97 wrote:
forrester wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Going to attempt it;

1. Robert Paparemborde

4. Michel Palmie
5. Olivier Merle

7. Jean Pierre Rives
8. Marc Cécillon

Who was that front rower that went at it with Moore? Classic face of hard French bastards in the 90s.
Ondarts?

:thumbup: Spot on

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French front rows were all nutcases back then. Le crunch was always my favourite game to watch, the 91 quarter final was epic.
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forrester wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
forrester wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Going to attempt it;

1. Robert Paparemborde

4. Michel Palmie
5. Olivier Merle

7. Jean Pierre Rives
8. Marc Cécillon

Who was that front rower that went at it with Moore? Classic face of hard French bastards in the 90s.
Ondarts?

:thumbup: Spot on

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French front rows were all nutcases back then. Le crunch was always my favourite game to watch, the 91 quarter final was epic.
That tackle by Skinner. My god.

Edit: Found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjm4hgIyhQ

head rucking like it's nothing.
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J Man wrote:I was thinking about the 96 All Blacks forwards. Were Ian Jones and Robin Brooke actually good or were they just surrounded by class?
You have a short memory.
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Jim Lahey wrote:Claw
Best
Hayes
Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello
Willie John for Brennan
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Kiwias wrote:
les@mooloolaba wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:Kevin Skinner
Futzy
Keith Murdoch
Pinetree Meads
Filth Oliver
Cowboy Shaw
Red Conway
Buck Shelford
:nod:
I might be tempted to take BBB at 5 -- imagine him with Pinetree :twisted:
You have to put JC in at 6 surely.
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Hawk97 wrote: That tackle by Skinner. My god.

Edit: Found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjm4hgIyhQ

head rucking like it's nothing.
As a collective unit, that English pack has to be with a shout at the 'hardest' title
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Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Claw
Best
Hayes
Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello
Willie John for Brennan
Fair enough so.
Just went with players I've seen play
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happyhooker wrote:
Hawk97 wrote: That tackle by Skinner. My god.

Edit: Found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjm4hgIyhQ

head rucking like it's nothing.
As a collective unit, that English pack has to be with a shout at the 'hardest' title
I think so. Put that pack up against their French counterpart (like in 91) or against the 87 Kiwi pack. :uhoh:
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Jim Lahey wrote:Claw
Best
Hayes
Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello
I'm not that big but I'll give it a go. Top selecting.
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As a collective unit, that English pack has to be with a shout at the 'hardest' title
Indomitable is probably a better description than 'hard'.

Vicious sneaky bastards is also a good term.
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Hawk97 wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Beaver_Shark wrote:7. Andre Venter

Add Ruben Kruger at the other flank.
Bakkies and Frik du Preez at lock.
Mof Myburgh and Hempies du Toit at prop.
Shaun Tovey at hooker. Or Chris Rossouw.
Theuns Stoffberg (out of position) at 8thman.
Teishmann? Small? J Le Roux?
Teichmann was nice and good but not hard. Small was neither hard nor a forward. J. le Roux was a hardman but stoooooopid.
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Hawk97 wrote:
forrester wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Sefton wrote:I'd put my money on the French, genuine psychopaths.
Going to attempt it;

1. Robert Paparemborde

4. Michel Palmie
5. Olivier Merle

7. Jean Pierre Rives
8. Marc Cécillon

Who was that front rower that went at it with Moore? Classic face of hard French bastards in the 90s.
Ondarts?

:thumbup: Spot on

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French front rows were all nutcases back then. Le crunch was always my favourite game to watch, the 91 quarter final was epic.
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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Beaver_Shark wrote:7. Andre Venter

Add Ruben Kruger at the other flank.
Bakkies and Frik du Preez at lock.
Mof Myburgh and Hempies du Toit at prop.
Shaun Tovey at hooker. Or Chris Rossouw.
Theuns Stoffberg (out of position) at 8thman.
Teishmann? Small? J Le Roux?
Teichmann was nice and good but not hard. Small was neither hard nor a forward. J. le Roux was a hardman but stoooooopid.
I meant Gert...
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Hawk97 wrote:
I meant Gert...

Gert Smal. sp.

Hard but not THAT hard. Underrated player, though. And coach - he should have been involved in the current Bok squad.

I'd rather put in Frik du Preez, somewhere .. one of the greatest players in the world, at a time when there were real greats. He would have been an amazing blindside flanker today.
And hard, hard, hard, as nails...
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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
I meant Gert...

Gert Smal. sp.

Hard but not THAT hard. Underrated player, though. And coach - he should have been involved in the current Bok squad.

I'd rather put in Frik du Preez, somewhere .. one of the greatest players in the world, at a time when there were real greats. He would have been an amazing blindside flanker today.
And hard, hard, hard, as nails...
Yes to Frik. Who's the large fella, who's a pitch commentator now? Laughably big. Was he hard? (maybe Erasmus).
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Hawk97 wrote:I'll be corrected by Jake, but I'll go;

J. Probyn
B. Moore
J. White
M. Johnson
D. Grewcock
P. Winterbottom
N. Back
D. Richards

Go on...

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Hawk97 wrote:
Yes to Frik. Who's the large fella, who's a pitch commentator now? Laughably big. Was he hard? (maybe Erasmus).
Kobus Wiese. A proper hard Springbok lock, now ... :lol:
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Hawk97 wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Beaver_Shark wrote:7. Andre Venter

Add Ruben Kruger at the other flank.
Bakkies and Frik du Preez at lock.
Mof Myburgh and Hempies du Toit at prop.
Shaun Tovey at hooker. Or Chris Rossouw.
Theuns Stoffberg (out of position) at 8thman.
Teishmann? Small? J Le Roux?
Teichmann was nice and good but not hard. Small was neither hard nor a forward. J. le Roux was a hardman but stoooooopid.
I meant Gert...
Hooker - Uli Schmidt or James Dalton
Props - Os du Randt and Balie Swart
Locks - frik du Preez and Bakkie Botha
Loosies - Andre Venter, Jan Ellis, Theuns stofberg
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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:
Yes to Frik. Who's the large fella, who's a pitch commentator now? Laughably big. Was he hard? (maybe Erasmus).
Kobus Wiese. A proper hard Springbok lock, now ... :lol:
Yeah. Now he's a pudding :lol:
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Does Schalk Burger Jnr not get an honourable mention for the Boks?
The man was a complete headcase when it came to putting his body on the line.
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Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Claw
Best
Hayes
Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello
Willie John for Brennan
Neil Best anywhere.
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Flametop wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Claw
Best
Hayes
Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello
Willie John for Brennan
Neil Best anywhere.
Was tempted to have Bestie ahead of JOC but JOC was a seriously hard looking plum and Best looked like he mightve combed his hair occassionally so JOC won out.
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Jim Lahey wrote:
Flametop wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Claw
Best
Hayes
Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello
Willie John for Brennan
Neil Best anywhere.
Was tempted to have Bestie ahead of JOC but JOC was a seriously hard looking plum and Best looked like he mightve combed his hair occassionally so JOC won out.
Joc also broke his pancreas and still played,Best would probably have rang someone and left a drunken message about it.
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Hardest French pack ? Heh, this is gonna be fun...

1. Gérdard Choley

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2. Servat

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3.any of those 70's/80's TH props

4. Chabal
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5. Olivier Merle

remember that guy ? :D
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6. Harinordoquy
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7. Dusautoir
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8. Picamoles

tagged a modern player, therefor soft, but seriously this guy is one bad mother.
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Jim Lahey wrote:Claw
Best
Hayes
Brennan
POC
Ferris
J O'Connor
Vic Costello

Duggan for Costello, Willie John for Brennan.
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is this composite packs or from a particular era?
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pieman99 wrote:is this composite packs or from a particular era?
From whenever, but actuall packs might be good.
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The '79-'80 Irish pack was a tough unit, Moss Keane, Phil Orr, Ginger McLoughlin and Brendan Foley would all have been hard bastards.
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1. Claw
2. Steve Smith
3. McLaughlin
4. Anderson
5. Brennan
6. Fez
7. Neil Best
8. John Muldoon
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Hawk97 wrote:I'll be corrected by Jake, but I'll go;

J. Probyn
B. Moore
J. White
M. Johnson
D. Grewcock
P. Winterbottom
N. Back
D. Richards

Go on...
Teague at 6, Winterbottom at 7.
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bimboman wrote:
Hawk97 wrote:Let's see a kiwi one? I reckon it's between England and NZ for the 'ardist!

French or Saffa is its violence you want.
The Old school sides from those two would be fuckin scary!
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I'll have a go at France

1 Ondarts
2. Dintran
3. Paparemborde
4. Esteve
5. Merle
6. Hairydonkey
7. Rives
8. Cecillon
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Cholley has to be in any French pack.
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1. Allen Jacobsen
2. Ross Ford
3. Simon Berghan
4. Al Kellock
5. Grant Gilchrist
6. Richie Vernon
7. Blair Cowan
8. Tyrone Holmes
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