Built-in Dishwashers

Pole · Post by **Pole** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:05 pm

As this bored is full of experts in all fields imaginable could someone suggest a solid brand/model for a built-in dishwasher..

I am clueless on the subject

sorCrer · Post by **sorCrer** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:09 pm

Pole wrote:As this bored is full of experts in all fields imaginable could someone suggest a solid brand/model for a built-in dishwasher..

I am clueless on the subject

Ex-saffa in racist shocker.

Sefton · Post by **Sefton** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:13 pm

Just because a man wants his dishes washed whiter than white doesn't make him the new Wilson.

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:18 pm

Budget??

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:24 pm

Have had an integratedNeff dishwasher for 15 years and can highly recommend the brand. Have a Neff integrated fridge for the same time without any issues.

booze · Post by **booze** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:25 pm

they are pretty cheap and tend to be pretty reliable and cheap to fix.

as its built in no point buying an expensive brand.

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:26 pm

I don't know what the options are (ours is Neff) for it but I'd highly recommend an extra height dishwasher. So much more flexibility and you get wine glasses in above with very large plates below. Had a normal dishwasher on a self catering holiday recently and it wrecked my head trying to load it!

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:27 pm

booze wrote:they are pretty cheap and tend to be pretty reliable and cheap to fix.

as its built in no point buying an expensive brand.

Never ever ever buy beko.

Nolanator · Post by **Nolanator** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:27 pm

booze wrote:they are pretty cheap and tend to be pretty reliable and cheap to fix.

as its built in no point buying an expensive brand.

Except when something fails and you've to revive a heap of skirting and Tom to get at the bloody thing to fix it.

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:28 pm

Nolanator wrote:
booze wrote:they are pretty cheap and tend to be pretty reliable and cheap to fix.

as its built in no point buying an expensive brand.
Except when something fails and you've to revive a heap of skirting and Tom to get at the bloody thing to fix it.

What is this Tom??

Pole · Post by **Pole** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:35 pm

happyhooker wrote:Budget??

Looking at spending no more then £500

Duff Paddy · Post by **Duff Paddy** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:35 pm

Is there any other type of dishwasher? Don't buy indesit/hotpoint.

Pole · Post by **Pole** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:36 pm

sorCrer wrote:
Pole wrote:As this bored is full of experts in all fields imaginable could someone suggest a solid brand/model for a built-in dishwasher..

I am clueless on the subject
Ex-saffa in racist shocker.

everyone one is a comedian

Duff Paddy · Post by **Duff Paddy** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:36 pm

CM11 wrote:I don't know what the options are (ours is Neff) for it but I'd highly recommend an extra height dishwasher. So much more flexibility and you get wine glasses in above with very large plates below. Had a normal dishwasher on a self catering holiday recently and it wrecked my head trying to load it!

What kind of a Palestinian puts wine glasses in the dishwasher?!? Seriously stop that.

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:38 pm

German.

Siemans, Bosch or Miele, if you can afford it.

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:39 pm

Pole wrote:
happyhooker wrote:Budget??
Looking at spending no more then £500

Neff, Bosch, Siemens then.

I presume it's to replace a current one?

Duff Paddy · Post by **Duff Paddy** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:40 pm

camroc1 wrote:German.

Siemans, Bosch or Miele, if you can afford it.

Agree, and neff. Liebherr fridges are great

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:41 pm

Duff Paddy wrote:
CM11 wrote:I don't know what the options are (ours is Neff) for it but I'd highly recommend an extra height dishwasher. So much more flexibility and you get wine glasses in above with very large plates below. Had a normal dishwasher on a self catering holiday recently and it wrecked my head trying to load it!
What kind of a Palestinian puts wine glasses in the dishwasher?!? Seriously stop that.

This is a good point if they're anything but shit.

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:41 pm

Duff Paddy wrote:
CM11 wrote:I don't know what the options are (ours is Neff) for it but I'd highly recommend an extra height dishwasher. So much more flexibility and you get wine glasses in above with very large plates below. Had a normal dishwasher on a self catering holiday recently and it wrecked my head trying to load it!
What kind of a Palestinian puts wine glasses in the dishwasher?!? Seriously stop that.

Just the weekday ones. Not the good weekend ones.

Seriously though, I have enough to do in my life without having to wash wine glasses and the ones we use look decent (because we've the height) and don't get damaged in the dishwasher. But it's not just glasses anyway that it's useful for, that was just giving an example.

Pole · Post by **Pole** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:42 pm

happyhooker wrote:
Pole wrote:
happyhooker wrote:Budget??
Looking at spending no more then £500
Neff, Bosch, Siemens then.

I presume it's to replace a current one?

that's correct.. to replace a whirlpool

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:47 pm

Looks like the rrp for the one I'm recommending is £720.

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:50 pm

Pole wrote:
happyhooker wrote:
Pole wrote:
happyhooker wrote:Budget??
Looking at spending no more then £500
Neff, Bosch, Siemens then.

I presume it's to replace a current one?
that's correct.. to replace a whirlpool

They're all built to fit either a 400mm (slimline) or more normal 600mm unit. If you're comfortable with basic diy, it's very simple to fit yourself. Some places try and charge a fair chunk of change for about 15mins work.

jezzer · Post by **jezzer** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:51 pm

Zanussi/Electrolux are good.

Just be careful of the performance of it. Loads of manufacturers trying to get A+ efficiency ratings are "depowering" their dishwashers so much it can take 4 hours to do a wash. The Eco setting certainly, usually more than 3 hrs.

If I have to wait more than 90-100 mins for the cycle to finish, I'm not buying it. Something to check.

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:51 pm

CM11 wrote:Looks like the rrp for the one I'm recommending is £720.

The ones I've recommended are around 400.

I'll restate this. Never buy beko. Ever.

booze · Post by **booze** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:01 pm

Nolanator wrote:
booze wrote:they are pretty cheap and tend to be pretty reliable and cheap to fix.

as its built in no point buying an expensive brand.
Except when something fails and you've to revive a heap of skirting and Tom to get at the bloody thing to fix it.

It's behind skirting? Wtf?

Azlan Roar · Post by **Azlan Roar** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:07 pm

Recently bought a new kitchen and it the deal included a Neff built in.

I was fine with that because the old kitchen that the previous owners put in had a Neff, and that was still working fine 10 years after we moved in.

This new Neff is almost exactly the same in design as the old Neff, so i'm expecting good things and happy to recommend Neff.

In a word,

Neff.

wilber · Post by **wilber** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:09 pm

Neff and Bosch are the same company. Me, my two sisters and Mum all have Neff dishwashers. No problems at all (mine is now 7 years old).

My Aunt swears by her Miele - 12 years and counting

Saint · Post by **Saint** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:09 pm

Have never had a problem with any German brand appliances bought for my Kitchen. Have had a problem with virtually any other brand

Boobs not Moobs · Post by **Boobs not Moobs** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:11 pm

Dishwashers are prob the most reliable large white goods. Depends on your budget but as I had everything to buy so biggest went on most important/vulnerable, Fridge/freezer AEG £650 and cooker SMEG £900, hobb - AEG £300, Washing M I screwed up on, went for Whirlpool won't again, built in microwave got for £50 on Amazon Warehouse and dishwasher £300 currys are both Hotpoint, top end HP but still hotpoint because they're both the most reliable devices in the kitchen and not prone to catching fire. When I replace the dryer (still got a made in England dryer working perfectly) that will be top brand.

Don't buy beko, I don't understand how that company is still in business here. Also indeshit I know its same company as Hotpoint but it still manages to be shittier.

bimboman · Post by **bimboman** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:32 pm

camroc1 wrote:German.

Siemans, Bosch or Miele, if you can afford it.

Miele is in a class of its own,

Daylight

then Neff,

Galaxian space

then Siemens/Bosch

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:35 pm

The one thing I'd avoid like the plague are self cleaning ovens. We bought a top of the range De Deitrich pyroclean oven 15 years ago, replaced it 8 years ago with a new one, and finally gave up the ghost last year and bought a Neff for half the price. We put the first one down to bad luck, but when the second one packed up last year I googled it and discovered that the way they self cleaned by going up to incredibly high (for a domestic oven anyway) for hours at a time burned out the circuit board for which you couldn't get a replacement. I worked out that the fcuking thing was costing me almost €300 a year given its 7 year lifespan.

BlackMac · Post by **BlackMac** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:38 pm

booze wrote:they are pretty cheap and tend to be pretty reliable and cheap to fix.

as its built in no point buying an expensive brand.

It's the very reason to buy an expensive brand.

DragsterDriver · Post by **DragsterDriver** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:44 pm

booze wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
booze wrote:they are pretty cheap and tend to be pretty reliable and cheap to fix.

as its built in no point buying an expensive brand.
Except when something fails and you've to revive a heap of skirting and Tom to get at the bloody thing to fix it.
It's behind skirting? Wtf?

He means plinth.

Something German sub- £500 will do the job well.

backrow · Post by **backrow** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:53 pm

For built in, check out CDA - British make I think, only do built ins, ours has lasted
5 years of daily use for a family of 6. Cheap, quiet, cleans, has not broken - kind of all I want from a dishwasher to be honest . Howdens use them.

Oh, and had a bosche or Aeg or neff or something like that beforehand - broke about two months after the 3 year warranty ended . Das fuuckers !

Brian9848 · Post by **Brian9848** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:07 pm

Miele... quieter than a whisper.

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:14 pm

Doesn't matter as much as making sure your wife doesn't load it.

lorcanoworms · Post by **lorcanoworms** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:25 pm

Lenny wrote:The one thing I'd avoid like the plague are self cleaning ovens. We bought a top of the range De Deitrich pyroclean oven 15 years ago, replaced it 8 years ago with a new one, and finally gave up the ghost last year and bought a Neff for half the price. We put the first one down to bad luck, but when the second one packed up last year I googled it and discovered that the way they self cleaned by going up to incredibly high (for a domestic oven anyway) for hours at a time burned out the circuit board for which you couldn't get a replacement. I worked out that the fcuking thing was costing me almost €300 a year given its 7 year lifespan.

It's usually only a thermostat that burns out, you are unlucky.
Also I have a Miele built oven that no longer self cleans, we just clean it ourselves.

Enzedder · Post by **Enzedder** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:46 pm

Far Canal ladies

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backrow · Post by **backrow** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:49 pm

Rowdy wrote:Doesn't matter as much as making sure your wife doesn't load it.

Ooh Jesus so much this

Large plates over the side so that they block the vents - why do they do this ?

Sharp knives upside down so they stab you - "because they clean better that way up " - wtf ?

Not putting same shape bowls together so that the thing is filled after two mins and not two meals - why ?

_fatprop · Post by **_fatprop** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:31 pm

We bought a miele basically because it had this cutlery tray thing in the top of the machine instead of a basket below, works well