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Saturday, September 09 2017
Kick-off: 18:00 AWST | 12:00 SAST | 10:00 GMT/UTC

NIB Stadium, Perth
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Weather:
Temp: 18°C
Rain: 9% (Partly cloudy)
Wind: 10 kmh WSW

Betting:
Australia (1.83) 5/6
South Africa (2.1) 11/10
Handicap: Australia -1

Officials:
Referee: Glen Jackson (NZR)
Assistant Ref 1: John Lacey (IRFU)
Assistant Ref 2: Paul Williams (NZR)
TMO : Ben Skeen (NZR)

Wallabies:
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Wallabies team to play South Africa
1. Scott Sio (34 Tests)
2. Tatafu Polota-Nau (73 Tests)
3. Sekope Kepu (82 Tests)
4. Rory Arnold (14 Tests)
5. Adam Coleman (13 Tests)
6. Ned Hanigan (5 Tests)
7. Michael Hooper (c) (70 Tests)
8. Sean McMahon (17 Tests)
9. Will Genia (80 Tests)
10. Bernard Foley (47 Tests)
11. Reece Hodge (15 Tests)
12. Kurtley Beale (62 Tests)
13. Tevita Kuridrani (49 Tests)
14. Henry Speight (14 Tests)
15. Israel Folau (57 Tests)

Reserves
16. Jordan Uelese*
17. Tom Robertson (11 Tests)
18. Allan Alaalatoa (14 Tests)
19. Rob Simmons (73 Tests)
20. Jack Dempsey (1 Test)
21. Nick Phipps (53 Tests)
22. Samu Kerevi (9 Tests)
23. Curtis Rona (1 Test)

IN: Samu Kerevi, Adam Coleman, Jack Dempsey, Jordan Uelese

OUT: Dane Haylett-Petty (biceps), Izack Rodda (omitted), Lopeti Timani (omitted), Stephen Moore (baby)

Captain: Michael Hooper
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Springboks:
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Springboks:
15. Andries Coetzee (Emirates Lions), 5 caps, 0 points
14. Raymond Rhule (Toyota Cheetahs), 5 caps, 5 points (1 try)
13. Jesse Kriel (Vodacom Bulls), 21 caps, 25 points (5 tries)
12. Jan Serfontein (Vodacom Bulls), 31 caps, 20 points (4 tries)
11. Courtnall Skosan (Emirates Lions), 5 caps, 5 points (1 try)
10. Elton Jantjies (Emirates Lions), 16 caps, 166 points (2 try, 30 conversions, 32 penalties)
9. Ross Cronje (Emirates Lions), 3 caps, 5 points (1 try)
8. Uzair Cassiem (Toyota Cheetahs) 3 caps, 5 points (1 try)
7. Jaco Kriel (Emirates Lions), 10 caps, 0 points
6. Siya Kolisi (DHL Stormers), 21 caps, 20 points (4 tries)
5. Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Stormers), 25 caps, 20 points (4 tries)
4. Eben Etzebeth (captain, DHL Stormers), 59 caps, 15 points (3 tries)
3. Coenie Oosthuizen (Cell C Sharks), 28 caps, 20 points (4 tries)
2. Malcolm Marx (Emirates Lions), 7 caps, 5 points (1 try)
1. Tendai Mtawarira (Cell C Sharks), 92 caps, 10 points (2 tries)
Replacements:
16. Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers), 10 caps, 0 points
17. Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers), 15 caps, 0 points
18. Trevor Nyakane (Vodacom Bulls), 30 caps, 5 points (1 try)
19. Lood de Jager (Vodacom Bulls), 29 caps, 20 points (4 tries)
20. Jean-Luc du Preez (Cell C Sharks), 6 caps, 5 points (1 try)
21. Francois Hougaard (Worcester Warriors, England) 44 caps, 25 points (5 tries)
22. Handré Pollard (Vodacom Bulls), 20 caps, 188 points (2 tries, 29 conversions, 37 penalties, 3 drop goals)
23. Damian de Allende (DHL Stormers), 24 caps, 15 points (3 tries)

Captain: Eben Etzebeth
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History:
Played: 83
Wallabies: 36
Springboks: 46
Drawn: 1

In Australia:
Played: 37
Wallabies: 24
Springboks: 12
Drawn: 1

Last 5:
1 October 2016 - Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria: 18–10 South Africa
10 September 2016 - Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane: 23–17 Australia
18 July 2015 - Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane: 24–20 Australia
27 September 2014 - Newlands Stadium, Cape Town: 28–10 South Africa
6 September 2014 - Patersons Stadium, Perth: 24–23 Australia
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Jensrsa wrote:Image

Saturday, September 09 2017
Kick-off: 18:00 AWST | 12:00 SAST | 10:00 GMT/UTC

NIB Stadium, Perth
Image

Weather:
Temp: 18°C
Rain: 9% (Partly cloudy)
Wind: 10 kmh WSW

Betting:
Australia (1.83) 5/6
South Africa (2.1) 11/10
Handicap: Australia -1

Officials:
Referee: Glen Jackson (NZR)
Assistant Ref 1: John Lacey (IRFU)
Assistant Ref 2: Paul Williams (NZR)
TMO : Ben Skeen (NZR)

Wallabies:
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Team: TBA

Captain: Michael Hooper
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Springboks:
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Team: TBA

Captain: Eben Etzebeth
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History:
Played: 83
Wallabies: 36
Springboks: 46
Drawn: 1

In Australia:
Played: 37
Wallabies: 24
Springboks: 12
Drawn: 1

Last 5:
1 October 2016 - Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria: 18–10 South Africa
10 September 2016 - Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane: 23–17 Australia
18 July 2015 - Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane: 24–20 Australia
27 September 2014 - Newlands Stadium, Cape Town: 28–10 South Africa
6 September 2014 - Patersons Stadium, Perth: 24–23 Australia
Very good match thread starter, Jensrsa! :thumbup:

I hope the game lives up to it. And it may well do. The attendance might be a different matter, tho'.

Specifically, Westralian rugbyites have a severe case of shit on the liver over the Force sacking, and this might spill over into a stayaway strike.

Expat Saffers in or aound Perth may be called upon to save the day...
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Betting odds flattering the Bokke, Aussies are much better than that, yes they are up against an improving Bok team but this is very young and inexperienced Bok side.

Aussies although domestically challenged, the national team is full of experience and has many star players.
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Boks by 4. I'm really impressed with how mature EE in terms of his aggression has developed with the captaincy role.
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I'm looking forward to watching this.

If the Perth crowd is hostile to the Wallabies it could really fvck with them.
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Going to be interesting test to see where each team stand in its recovery.

The Wallabies have been poor this year losing to Scotland at home and being thumped by the ABs in the first test. They came back well in the second test and probably should have won the test after leading 0-17 early on.

The Boks have won all their tests this year and won them well but everyone assures us that it was a weak France side and an even weaker Pumas side.

Beating the Wallabies in Oz is going to be tough, the Boks have only managed it 5 times in the last 28 tests in Oz. Maybe the disgruntled Force fans and the chicken runners in Perth will help
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Boks need to win this.
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OomPB wrote:Boks need to win this.
Wallabies need it more.
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CrazyIslander wrote:
OomPB wrote:Boks need to win this.
Wallabies need it more.
...last year we lost against Italy, didn't win an away game and had an overall win percentage in the 30 percentile, so Ja, Bokke NEED IT MORE!
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I don't believe the Springboks would've conceded 50 points at home to the AB (well, this year at least), but just the same way I don't think they could've then responded with the Wallabies' Bledisloe 2 performance. I don't think they have it in them to push the AB in NZ to the very last play for the game. So comparatively between these two for this game here, I'd say the Wallabies have more potential, but aren't as consistent. South Africa play a more expansive Rugby (than before), but at the core still play a settled/controlled style. They won't go rogue with the attacking, they'll keep the ball patiently and then unleash the runners and offloads if they can and have done a good job at that this season. However easy, they've won all their games this year, while Australia have already lost 3 of theirs. So they're the more settled, confident team the Bokke going into this, but Aus certainly have enough in store from what we've seen to secure this one being at home.
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Five burning questions ahead of Wallabies showdown with Springboks in Perth

Can the Wallabies continue where they left off in Dunedin?

Can Australia put to one side the off-field dramas in Perth?

Can the Springboks stop Israel Folau?

What's the plan without Stephen Moore?

What areas do the Wallabies need to fix before Saturday?
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/austr ... y9q61.html
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Springboks coach Allister Coetzee's subtle sledge at Wallabies after Dunedin heartbreak

Springboks coach Allister Coetzee has thrown a cheeky sledge at the Wallabies ahead of their clash this weekend, saying they should have finished off the job against the All Blacks in Dunedin after leading with three minutes remaining.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union ... yaigx.html

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Not so much a "sledge" as an observation
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THE Wallabies will pile the pressure on Springboks magician Elton Jantjies next Saturday as they attempt to continue their home dominance against the South Africans.

Australia has won five of six Rugby Championship Tests at home against the Boks but stopping the mercurial Jantjies will be key to extending that winning percentage in Perth.

And Jantjies’ five-eighth rival Bernard Foley declared the Wallabies defence will be targeting the No. 10 at nib Stadium to ensure he produces rocks instead of diamonds.

“He is a bit unorthodox, he is a talented player and he’s got a bit of everything,” Foley said.

“When you play against a guy like that you’ve got to make sure he doesn’t beat you with a sidestep, a chip-and-chase over the top, or a dummy.

“If you’re pushing them backwards it takes time away from the creative players and puts them under a lot more pressure, and the more those plays don’t come off.”

Jantjies is similar in style to Quade Cooper, a flashy player with unparalleled skill but who can often make blunders under pressure.

But while the Boks had used him sparingly off the bench, he has taken hold of the No. 10 jersey in the past year after leading the Lions to back-to-back Super Rugby grand finals.

Jantjies is also goalkicking at 87 per cent in this year’s Rugby Championship, compared to Foley’s 67 per cent.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... a2ca7cd941
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The good old "tackle-them-backward" tactics that used to work for the Wallabies against the Springboks.

Will see if they can employ it successfully.
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Wilson's Toffee wrote:The good old "tackle-them-backward" tactics that used to work for the Wallabies against the Springboks.

Will see if they can employ it successfully.

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Jensrsa wrote:
Five burning questions ahead of Wallabies showdown with Springboks in Perth

Can the Wallabies continue where they left off in Dunedin?

Can Australia put to one side the off-field dramas in Perth?

Can the Springboks stop Israel Folau?

What's the plan without Stephen Moore?

What areas do the Wallabies need to fix before Saturday?
Answer:
Referee: Glen Jackson (NZR)
Assistant Ref 1: John Lacey (IRFU)
Assistant Ref 2: Paul Williams (NZR)
TMO : Ben Skeen (NZR)

Money, threats to their families and threats to release those videos should do it.
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Matt Henjak wrote:I'm looking forward to watching this.

If the Perth crowd is hostile to the Wallabies it could really fvck with them.
One interesting thing is the Wallabys had that big open training session in Penrith ahead of the Bled test. It was a real success and engaged the kids.
No such session is scheduled in Perth as far a I know (could be wrong).
Read in to that what you will.
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Farva wrote:
Matt Henjak wrote:I'm looking forward to watching this.

If the Perth crowd is hostile to the Wallabies it could really fvck with them.
One interesting thing is the Wallabys had that big open training session in Penrith ahead of the Bled test. It was a real success and engaged the kids.
No such session is scheduled in Perth as far a I know (could be wrong).
Read in to that what you will.
:lol: I hope you're wrong.
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CrazyIslander wrote:
Farva wrote:
Matt Henjak wrote:I'm looking forward to watching this.

If the Perth crowd is hostile to the Wallabies it could really fvck with them.
One interesting thing is the Wallabys had that big open training session in Penrith ahead of the Bled test. It was a real success and engaged the kids.
No such session is scheduled in Perth as far a I know (could be wrong).
Read in to that what you will.
:lol: I hope you're wrong.
After Farva posted that I searched for any public training sessions or appearances.

Nothing advertised.

I think there's going to be a massive turn out in Force Blue this weekend.
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anyone suspect Cheika will go crazy and put Marika in the 23?
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guy smiley wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Farva wrote:
Matt Henjak wrote:I'm looking forward to watching this.

If the Perth crowd is hostile to the Wallabies it could really fvck with them.
One interesting thing is the Wallabys had that big open training session in Penrith ahead of the Bled test. It was a real success and engaged the kids.
No such session is scheduled in Perth as far a I know (could be wrong).
Read in to that what you will.
:lol: I hope you're wrong.
After Farva posted that I searched for any public training sessions or appearances.

Nothing advertised.

I think there's going to be a massive turn out in Force Blue this weekend.
I read that Bill Pulver is making a public appearance at the test. I doubt that gutless cúnt Clyne will front up in the west.
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How the hell is Glenn Jackson a test match referee? Just because he played first class Rugby? The worst performance I have seen by a referee in 2017 was by Jackson. He's completely out of his depth at this level.

BTW I expect the Wallabies to win. Springbok fans think their team has turned the corner, but they're utterly deluded. They have had easy wins against a tired, disinterested French team in June, and then two in a row against a hopelessly incompetent and undermanned Pumas outfit.
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Yeah, Pulver made a song and dance about facing the fans a couple of weeks back...

I imagine that will mean flying in for a night, going to the game and appearing on the big screen smiling weakly, looking like a fish out of water and waving a fin disconsolately.

John Howard did the same years ago... every time his mug appeared on the screen the crowd booed.
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Of course Pulver and Clyne will be there, rule #1 for a sports administrator; never say no to a junket. That expensive French bubbly won't drink itself.
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Ali's Choice wrote:How the hell is Glenn Jackson a test match referee? Just because he played first class Rugby? The worst performance I have seen by a referee in 2017 was by Jackson. He's completely out of his depth at this level.

BTW I expect the Wallabies to win. Springbok fans think their team has turned the corner, but they're utterly deluded. They have had easy wins against a tired, disinterested French team in June, and then two in a row against a hopelessly incompetent and undermanned Pumas outfit.
Aussie supporter nowadays?
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OomPB wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:How the hell is Glenn Jackson a test match referee? Just because he played first class Rugby? The worst performance I have seen by a referee in 2017 was by Jackson. He's completely out of his depth at this level.

BTW I expect the Wallabies to win. Springbok fans think their team has turned the corner, but they're utterly deluded. They have had easy wins against a tired, disinterested French team in June, and then two in a row against a hopelessly incompetent and undermanned Pumas outfit.
Aussie supporter nowadays?
Of course I will support the Wallabies when they're playing South Africa. I have seen Cry Freedom, I saw how you guys treated people of colour.
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Can't wait for this. Feel like the first big test of the year.

After last year I thought the Boks were done and dusted, but can't wait to get down to the pub for this. Nice to know that we have a fairly good chance of winning too.
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Just been to a new client at Noodgedacht village just before Stellenbosch. Building the biggest museum for rugby memorabilia in the world. Fascinating
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Ali's Choice wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:How the hell is Glenn Jackson a test match referee? Just because he played first class Rugby? The worst performance I have seen by a referee in 2017 was by Jackson. He's completely out of his depth at this level.

BTW I expect the Wallabies to win. Springbok fans think their team has turned the corner, but they're utterly deluded. They have had easy wins against a tired, disinterested French team in June, and then two in a row against a hopelessly incompetent and undermanned Pumas outfit.
Aussie supporter nowadays?
Of course I will support the Wallabies when they're playing South Africa. I have seen Cry Freedom, I saw how you guys treated people of colour.
Cry Zuma is on its way, you cant miss this one.
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I am apprehensive.

Springboks really needs a win against Oz. And NZ.
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Sards wrote:Just been to a new client at Noodgedacht village just before Stellenbosch. Building the biggest museum for rugby memorabilia in the world. Fascinating
Yes, most of the memorabilia is coming from the Choet Visser museum here in Bloem. Its curator, Prof Du Plessis, passed away this year and instructed the stuff to be displayed in the new museum
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If we play like we have for the past 120 minutes of rugby, we'll win.

That's a big 'IF'. I'd have us as 3 point favourites. Should be a cracker.

My largest concern is the scrum. Hopefully with TPN starting the scrum issues will abate... and hopefully either Latu or Ulese will carve it up from the bench, preventing the need for Moore's return. Latu will add a lot to the breakdown.
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Big Nipper wrote:
Sards wrote:Just been to a new client at Noodgedacht village just before Stellenbosch. Building the biggest museum for rugby memorabilia in the world. Fascinating
Yes, most of the memorabilia is coming from the Choet Visser museum here in Bloem. Its curator, Prof Du Plessis, passed away this year and instructed the stuff to be displayed in the new museum
I believe so. Talk about a trip down memory lane.
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Big test for the Boks. I hope they pitch up for this one.

Wallabies looked very dangerous in their last 2 outings. I think our defense is going to be tested like it hasn't before this year.
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According to Kolisi, the Boks are looking forward to continue their preparations in Perth, where the team’s first field session on Monday afternoon was witnessed by a number of spectators and eager learners of the Hale School, the squad’s training venue for this week.
https://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/sprin ... p-11075806

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This will be a good test of where the Wallabies are at. I think the Boks are good value this year. Hopefully it is a good test.
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Happily, it feels like a little bit of rationality is returning to the debate, and the feeling is growing that rather than boycotting the Test, fans are now looking to attend the match in numbers, and decked out in their Western Force gear.

Indeed, this is RugbyWA’s preferred method of protest. Have the Sea of Blue fill out nib Stadium in all their glory – Force jerseys and Wallabies scarves is the recommended dress code – and send the message that Western Australian fans aren’t going anywhere.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/09/05/ho ... -not-home/
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