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Shit players this round, TPN, Hannigan, Hooper, Hodge, Genia....Hannigan really is a waste of spsce isn't he? they are better off playing with 14 men.
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Bindi, I hope the game did not spoil your appetite, sweet Jesus that was a steaming turd of a game to watch
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Toro wrote:Etzebeth really needs to work on his interviewing skills if he's gonna be captain.

'great game for the fans' says Hooper haha. :roll:
lol I'm not sure that's the #1 criterion for the job.
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The Optimist wrote:
Olo wrote:
grievous wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:Who gave away the lineout penalty that allowed the Boks to go to our half? Idiot.
Simmons, who else. Penalty machine. Tahs deserve him.
It was Hanigan
Definitely Hanigan.
Understandable mistake, though.

Idiotic lineout penalty. Crucial moment in game. Simmons on the field.

Defo be right way more often than wrong blaming SImmons on suspicion.
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MungoMan wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Olo wrote:
grievous wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:Who gave away the lineout penalty that allowed the Boks to go to our half? Idiot.
Simmons, who else. Penalty machine. Tahs deserve him.
It was Hanigan
Definitely Hanigan.
Understandable mistake, though.

Idiotic lineout penalty. Crucial moment in game. Simmons on the field.

Defo be right way more often than wrong blaming SImmons on suspicion.

:lol: :lol: :lol: yeah
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MungoMan wrote:
grievous wrote:worst.game.eva
Too kind
I would take this game everytime than wasting my time watching the All Blacks win another game by 20 points.
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comets wrote:Shit players this round, TPN, Hannigan, Hooper, Hodge, Genia....Hannigan really is a waste of spsce isn't he? they are better off playing with 14 men.
Hooper and Genia in that list? Hodge was fine.

Ok mate, pass it along


To add though, in a team that has hannigan starting and f**king dempsey on the bench, i'm still confused how phipps is the #2 halfback in the country. I've seen better halves running around reserve grade in melbourne, ffs
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Two below average teams who will struggle to win many matches during the AIs
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Clive Simms wrote:Two below average teams who will struggle to win many matches during the AIs
Prolly finish 2nd and 3rd in the 6n's though, tbf
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Big Nipper wrote:Bindi, I hope the game did not spoil your appetite, sweet Jesus that was a steaming turd of a game to watch
Fortunately we ate 10 mins before kickoff. What a shit game.
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kearnstar wrote:
comets wrote:Shit players this round, TPN, Hannigan, Hooper, Hodge, Genia....Hannigan really is a waste of spsce isn't he? they are better off playing with 14 men.
Hooper and Genia in that list? Hodge was fine.

Ok mate, pass it along


To add though, in a team that has hannigan starting and f**king dempsey on the bench, i'm still confused how phipps is the #2 halfback in the country. I've seen better halves running around reserve grade in melbourne, ffs
Comets is not the most reliable narrator.
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kearnstar wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:Two below average teams who will struggle to win many matches during the AIs
Prolly finish 2nd and 3rd in the 6n's though, tbf
would be a bit more convincing if Australia hadn't lost to Scotland and SA hadn't lost to Italy within the past 12 months :roll:
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Thought Hooper, Beale, Uelese, and McMahon stood out. I'll be filthy if Moore comes back in.
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We really miss Poey :nod:
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Sards wrote:A.C. refused to bring on Pollard
Jantjies obviously played exactly the game AC wanted him to play.

Didn't watch the game but will take a crappy draw over loss in Oz anyday
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The Boks breakdown work was exceptional.
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SA has now won against a crap France team, beaten a poor Pumas team (who pushed the ABs most of the way as well) and has drawn away to a poor Waalabies side (who nearly beat the ABs in NZ)

May we now say that they've improved over last year?
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Jensrsa wrote:
Sards wrote:A.C. refused to bring on Pollard
Jantjies obviously played exactly the game AC wanted him to play.

Didn't watch the game but will take a crappy draw over loss in Oz anyday
Would that involve aimless kicking?
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Lucius wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Sards wrote:A.C. refused to bring on Pollard
Jantjies obviously played exactly the game AC wanted him to play.

Didn't watch the game but will take a crappy draw over loss in Oz anyday
Would that involve aimless kicking?
Did you ever watch the Stormers play under AC?

As I said, I didn't watch the game but it seems the Boks are regressing more and more to AC's idea of "traditional" Bok rugby given that they've kicked more since the start of the RC
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Jensrsa wrote:SA has now won against a crap France team, beaten a poor Pumas team (who pushed the ABs most of the way as well) and has drawn away to a poor Waalabies side (who nearly beat the ABs in NZ)

May we now say that they've improved over last year?
No, didn't you read the comments, WORST GAME EVA!
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odd144 wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:SA has now won against a crap France team, beaten a poor Pumas team (who pushed the ABs most of the way as well) and has drawn away to a poor Waalabies side (who nearly beat the ABs in NZ)

May we now say that they've improved over last year?
No, didn't you read the comments, WORST GAME EVA!
Was a draw in Oz wasn't it?
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Dempsey was miles better than Hanigan FWIW

Boks capable of an upset next week. I won't hold my breath but it's possible.
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Jensrsa wrote:
odd144 wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:SA has now won against a crap France team, beaten a poor Pumas team (who pushed the ABs most of the way as well) and has drawn away to a poor Waalabies side (who nearly beat the ABs in NZ)

May we now say that they've improved over last year?
No, didn't you read the comments, WORST GAME EVA!
Was a draw in Oz wasn't it?
But but average teams!
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At 23 - 20 The Bok scrum absolutely crushes the Wobs on their 5 metre line, under the posts. Penalty. They kick the 3.

Why not another scrum, maybe getting the penalty try?

????????
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Zakar wrote:Dempsey was miles better than Hanigan FWIW

Boks capable of an upset next week. I won't hold my breath but it's possible.
Nothing from the Boks to scare the ABs today.....
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Dumbledore wrote:Thought Hooper, Beale, Uelese, and McMahon stood out. I'll be filthy if Moore comes back in.
Don't agree about McMahon(had a regression to the mean after last week), but otherwise yes.

Teach Ulese to throw and he'll be a 100 cap Wallaby.
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seems like we're back in the good old days when - by dint of frowning and generally looking angry - the likes of Al Baxter and Bill Youngs bullshitted their way about the test match arena
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Monk Zombie wrote:seems like we're back in the good old days when - by dint of frowning and generally looking angry - the likes of Al Baxter and Bill Youngs bullshitted their way about the test match arena
Don't understand.

That is what your locks have been doing for years.
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Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:seems like we're back in the good old days when - by dint of frowning and generally looking angry - the likes of Al Baxter and Bill Youngs bullshitted their way about the test match arena
Don't understand.

That is what your locks have been doing for years.
:lol:
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Denirostaxidriver wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:seems like we're back in the good old days when - by dint of frowning and generally looking angry - the likes of Al Baxter and Bill Youngs bullshitted their way about the test match arena
Don't understand.

That is what your locks have been doing for years.
australia has fielded better locks than South Africa in this century?
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Zakar wrote:
Dumbledore wrote:Thought Hooper, Beale, Uelese, and McMahon stood out. I'll be filthy if Moore comes back in.
Don't agree about McMahon(had a regression to the mean after last week), but otherwise yes.

Teach Ulese to throw and he'll be a 100 cap Wallaby.
I thought he played well, but we probably need a different body at 8. Dempsey looked like a nothing player.
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obelixtim wrote:At 23 - 20 The Bok scrum absolutely crushes the Wobs on their 5 metre line, under the posts. Penalty. They kick the 3.

Why not another scrum, maybe getting the penalty try?

????????
AC played not to lose
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As I said, I didn't watch the game but it seems the Boks are regressing more and more to AC's idea of "traditional" Bok rugby given that they've kicked more since the start of the RC
Boks backs were two lateral and bunched which led to a lot of kicking. Very difficult to play with the Lions halfbacks with centres that don't run straight and get the gain line. Rohan Janse van Rensburg or Vorster are needed if the Boks are going to unleash the back three and give them some space.
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We got destroyed on the ground, over the ball and in the set piece.
There is zero benefit to that lightweight back row.

You can carry Hooper and McMahon if they are
1. Challenging for the ball at the breakdown
and
2, If you have a big bopper at 8 who adds weight in ball carrying and defense.

I still reckon 6. Higs 7. Hooper 8. Timani
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Higgers? No.
Get RHP into the squad or Fardy back.
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Farva wrote:Higgers? No.
Get RHP into the squad or Fardy back.
Fardy is not coming back and RHP is untested. I wouldn't mind seeing him but is he not injured?
We finished that test with Hanigan/Hooper/Dempsey........fark me. How did we not lose?
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A moral victory for the Aussies
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Olo wrote:
Farva wrote:Higgers? No.
Get RHP into the squad or Fardy back.
Fardy is not coming back and RHP is untested. I wouldn't mind seeing him but is he not injured?
We finished that test with Hanigan/Hooper/Dempsey........fark me. How did we not lose?
That back row is appalling. Timani is out of form though.
We know what Higgers brings and it isnt enough. RHP needs to be trialled and hell lets get a few more in too. Who is that Qlder in the squad, Koryz? Get him a run. Hanigan doesnt work. Dempsey doesnt work. They might next year but not now. Lurkhan Tui could be a shot.
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Jensrsa wrote:
obelixtim wrote:At 23 - 20 The Bok scrum absolutely crushes the Wobs on their 5 metre line, under the posts. Penalty. They kick the 3.

Why not another scrum, maybe getting the penalty try?

????????
AC played not to lose
And I think the score was 20-20 at that point wasn't it? Boks went up 23-20 with that penalty no?

Poor match.
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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
As I said, I didn't watch the game but it seems the Boks are regressing more and more to AC's idea of "traditional" Bok rugby given that they've kicked more since the start of the RC
Boks backs were two lateral and bunched which led to a lot of kicking. Very difficult to play with the Lions halfbacks with centres that don't run straight and get the gain line. Rohan Janse van Rensburg or Vorster are needed if the Boks are going to unleash the back three and give them some space.
Backline is terrible atm. Coetzee really needs to go at 15 as well.

Springbok forwards played well in general. As well as Kriel played today, he also was the cause of a number of chances being messed up. He seemed to lose the ball a lot either trying an offload, or with a bad pass when we were on attack 5m from their line, etc. Missed opportunities. PSDT had a very good game...very happy with our lock options. JLdP needs to start for Cassiem. And Kolisi continued his great form.

Backs are the issue. They do ok with unstructured play but off first phase they look clueless with called moved ending up with the players just running into each other all the time. They are just not clicking.
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