Re: Harvey Weinstein:Hollywoods sexual secrets about to expl
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:58 am
And you after all are definitely a neutral arbiter in this regardSeneca of the Night wrote: Not a very convincing denial imo.
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And you after all are definitely a neutral arbiter in this regardSeneca of the Night wrote: Not a very convincing denial imo.
Pfft, what would Anthony Weiner’s former roommate know about inappropriate sexual behaviourSeneca of the Night wrote:Jon Stewart being put on the mat by some kid re Louis CK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... a5VYSPsoE0
Not a very convincing denial imo.
That’s more Roger Sterling-obvious than Don Draper-smooth, he should have known better.Seneca of the Night wrote:Now Matthew Weiner (of Mad Men) is getting it, for, er, some remark:
Getting weird now.ormer "Mad Men" writer Kater Gordon has accused series creator Matthew Weiner of making a sexually charged remark to her while she worked on the series.
According to a report published Thursday by the Information, Gordon alleges while working together late one night in 2008, Weiner said she owed it to him to let him see her naked. A PR rep for Weiner reiterated the statement he gave to the Information: "He does not remember saying this comment nor does it reflect a comment he would say to any colleague."
Gordon won a writing Emmy in 2009 for her work on "Mad Men," but she has not worked in TV since she was let go from the "Mad Men" staff at the end of the third season. She began her TV career as a personal assistant to Weiner, then advanced to writing assistant to Weiner and ultimately to staff writer.
Of the incident, Gordon said she recalls freezing up and trying to brush off his comment. She didn't report the remark to anyone at the time out of fear of losing her job. She told the Information she decided to speak out about her experience following the explosive revelations of sexual assault allegations against film producer Harvey Weinstein.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertain ... story.html
I seem to recall he defended Weiner’s weiner to the hilt for some time also, until it was undeniableSeneca of the Night wrote:I was going to include that wee nugget but decided it was an insinuation too far. Stewart better watch out himself. Letting yourself go like he has starts to get female minds whirring. They start to think 'urrgghhh; really? I'd better complain about that.'naki wrote:Pfft, what would Anthony Weiner’s former roommate know about inappropriate sexual behaviourSeneca of the Night wrote:Jon Stewart being put on the mat by some kid re Louis CK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... a5VYSPsoE0
Not a very convincing denial imo.
In some cases it seems as much about power as sex, and in some cases it seems both impulsive and compulsive.Mick Mannock wrote:I do wonder why these guys do not simply purchase prossies. They can afford really good ones too.
probably a power thing - they have had whores in the past, so need the extra buzz of the 'conquest' with the rapey stuff.Mick Mannock wrote:I do wonder why these guys do not simply purchase prossies. They can afford really good ones too.
jayzChuckles1188 wrote:Boris Johnson once commented that he hasn't needed to have a wank in 20 years, and I imagine folk like Weiner might say something broadly similar. Perhaps some of them should give it a try
Did you see the doco? Engrossing stuff, he was/is clearly addicted to that type of attention and equally delusional about. All my sympathies lay with his wife after watching that. A hideous position to be in.Seneca of the Night wrote:Yep. A part of me sort of feels a bit sorry for Weiner. What he had was something way beyond just harrassment. He had the sex equivalent of an extreme gambling addiction. It must be a nightmare.naki wrote:I seem to recall he defended Weiner’s weiner to the hilt for some time also, until it was undeniableSeneca of the Night wrote:I was going to include that wee nugget but decided it was an insinuation too far. Stewart better watch out himself. Letting yourself go like he has starts to get female minds whirring. They start to think 'urrgghhh; really? I'd better complain about that.'naki wrote:Pfft, what would Anthony Weiner’s former roommate know about inappropriate sexual behaviourSeneca of the Night wrote:Jon Stewart being put on the mat by some kid re Louis CK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... a5VYSPsoE0
Not a very convincing denial imo.
Claims made that he bummed a 14 Corey Haim while 19 himself.backrow wrote:probably a power thing - they have had whores in the past, so need the extra buzz of the 'conquest' with the rapey stuff.Mick Mannock wrote:I do wonder why these guys do not simply purchase prossies. They can afford really good ones too.
all that power and wealth just brought out their inner dickhead tendancies
the types who simply like shagging, are the George bests / Bill Wyman / Charlie sheens of the world
Fake news.Seneca of the Night wrote:That's it in a nutshell. They can; they can even get them to act out their problems (there's a funny Two and a half Men episode where Charlie orders a 'girlfriend experience' and gets the girl to moan and nag at him); but they don't.Mick Mannock wrote:I do wonder why these guys do not simply purchase prossies. They can afford really good ones too.
They have some other issues going on.
naki wrote:In some cases it seems as much about power as sex, and in some cases it seems both impulsive and compulsive.Mick Mannock wrote:I do wonder why these guys do not simply purchase prossies. They can afford really good ones too.
You should, it’s great. Came out before the really scandalous, criminal situation arose but he was clearly heading somewhere awful.Seneca of the Night wrote:I didn't no. But I've worked it out.
Did you see the doco? Engrossing stuff, he was/is clearly addicted to that type of attention and equally delusional about. All my sympathies lay with his wife after watching that. A hideous position to be in.
It's in the Everyone Loves Raymond scale. Not funny, and actually so terrible with such awful characters it's bad for society.Seneca of the Night wrote:Guilty pleasure, like pineapple on a pizza. Or doing crack in the ghetto.Zakar wrote:Fake news.Seneca of the Night wrote:That's it in a nutshell. They can; they can even get them to act out their problems (there's a funny Two and a half Men episode where Charlie orders a 'girlfriend experience' and gets the girl to moan and nag at him); but they don't.Mick Mannock wrote:I do wonder why these guys do not simply purchase prossies. They can afford really good ones too.
They have some other issues going on.
Often very funny.
orly ? hadn't heard that. was it consentual bumming ?Nolanator wrote:Claims made that he bummed a 14 Corey Haim while 19 himself.backrow wrote:probably a power thing - they have had whores in the past, so need the extra buzz of the 'conquest' with the rapey stuff.Mick Mannock wrote:I do wonder why these guys do not simply purchase prossies. They can afford really good ones too.
all that power and wealth just brought out their inner dickhead tendancies
the types who simply like shagging, are the George bests / Bill Wyman / Charlie sheens of the world
Fuck-off!Zakar wrote:It's in the Everyone Loves Raymond scale. Not funny, and actually so terrible with such awful characters it's bad for society.Seneca of the Night wrote:Guilty pleasure, like pineapple on a pizza. Or doing crack in the ghetto.Zakar wrote:Fake news.Seneca of the Night wrote:That's it in a nutshell. They can; they can even get them to act out their problems (there's a funny Two and a half Men episode where Charlie orders a 'girlfriend experience' and gets the girl to moan and nag at him); but they don't.Mick Mannock wrote:I do wonder why these guys do not simply purchase prossies. They can afford really good ones too.
They have some other issues going on.
Often very funny.
Doesn't CK have an act based on what his 4 yo daughter likes to hide up her fanny?Seneca of the Night wrote:Incidentally, here is the film by Louis CK that just got canned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_You,_Daddy
In the film, C.K. plays television writer and producer Glen Topher. He becomes disconcerted after his teenage daughter (Moretz) is seduced by a much older film director, played by Malkovich.
Hmm.
Based on Woody, of course.Seneca of the Night wrote:Incidentally, here is the film by Louis CK that just got canned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_You,_Daddy
In the film, C.K. plays television writer and producer Glen Topher. He becomes disconcerted after his teenage daughter (Moretz) is seduced by a much older film director, played by Malkovich.
Hmm.
No, it’s about the shock of discovering that shit gets into female baby fannies and having to clean it out. But funnier than how I described it of course.Mick Mannock wrote:Doesn't CK have an act based on what his 4 yo daughter likes to hide up her fanny?Seneca of the Night wrote:Incidentally, here is the film by Louis CK that just got canned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_You,_Daddy
In the film, C.K. plays television writer and producer Glen Topher. He becomes disconcerted after his teenage daughter (Moretz) is seduced by a much older film director, played by Malkovich.
Hmm.
I'd flip tiers 1 and 2 there - Weiner seems to have something not right upstairs, whereas besides their own unconvincing claims there's not much reason to believe that Cosby or Weinstein are anything other than rapists or aspiring rapists with the power to cover their tracks. Seems worse than the still very much fucked up situation with Weiner to meMan In Black wrote:There should be some sort of ranking for these perverts now.
Tier 1: Proper maniacs like Weiner who have a pathological addiction to being creepy.
Tier 2: Monstrous bestial rapists like Cosby and Weinstein who have ruined lives with their sexual harassment and assaults.
Tier 3: Run of the mill perverts like Louis CK and potentially Casey Affleck
Tier 4: Jock morons like Ben Affleck.
Yes, they’re all getting tarred with the same rapey at the moment.Man In Black wrote:There should be some sort of ranking for these perverts now.
Tier 1: Proper maniacs like Weiner who have a pathological addiction to being creepy.
Tier 2: Monstrous bestial rapists like Cosby and Weinstein who have ruined lives with their sexual harassment and assaults.
Tier 3: Run of the mill perverts like Louis CK and potentially Casey Affleck
Tier 4: Jock morons like Ben Affleck.
The 1970s apparently.assfly wrote:If enough people do it, when does it become the norm and accepted by society?
Somewhat odd to come out with that news and then be up in arms that a 19 year-old Sheen tried to kiss a "barely 18 year-old"...
It's already there. We're a victim-based society.Man In Black wrote:I agree. I think I put him first because it seems to be a legit medical problem but Cosby and Weinstein are the more monstrous characters. Carlos Danger is just a sick man.Chuckles1188 wrote:I'd flip tiers 1 and 2 there - Weiner seems to have something not right upstairs, whereas besides their own unconvincing claims there's not much reason to believe that Cosby or Weinstein are anything other than rapists or aspiring rapists with the power to cover their tracks. Seems worse than the still very much fucked up situation with Weiner to meMan In Black wrote:There should be some sort of ranking for these perverts now.
Tier 1: Proper maniacs like Weiner who have a pathological addiction to being creepy.
Tier 2: Monstrous bestial rapists like Cosby and Weinstein who have ruined lives with their sexual harassment and assaults.
Tier 3: Run of the mill perverts like Louis CK and potentially Casey Affleck
Tier 4: Jock morons like Ben Affleck.
I guess my main thoughts are that not every awkward fumble or attempt to bang an actress need to be seen as on the same level as asking Mossad to destroy the lives of women who refuse to fudge you. Which is, I fear, where its headed.
Maybe like one of those multiple point questionaires that finishes with a chart of your political leanings. In this case the x axis would be "Mother Theresa" to "Aleister Crowley", and the Y "Celibacy" to "kickfucking a girl with cerebral palsy"Seneca of the Night wrote:Needs a website. With a pervertometer ranking.Man In Black wrote:I agree. I think I put him first because it seems to be a legit medical problem but Cosby and Weinstein are the more monstrous characters. Carlos Danger is just a sick man.Chuckles1188 wrote:I'd flip tiers 1 and 2 there - Weiner seems to have something not right upstairs, whereas besides their own unconvincing claims there's not much reason to believe that Cosby or Weinstein are anything other than rapists or aspiring rapists with the power to cover their tracks. Seems worse than the still very much fucked up situation with Weiner to meMan In Black wrote:There should be some sort of ranking for these perverts now.
Tier 1: Proper maniacs like Weiner who have a pathological addiction to being creepy.
Tier 2: Monstrous bestial rapists like Cosby and Weinstein who have ruined lives with their sexual harassment and assaults.
Tier 3: Run of the mill perverts like Louis CK and potentially Casey Affleck
Tier 4: Jock morons like Ben Affleck.
I guess my main thoughts are that not every awkward fumble or attempt to bang an actress need to be seen as on the same level as asking Mossad to destroy the lives of women who refuse to fudge you. Which is, I fear, where its headed.
Brazil wrote:"kickfucking a girl with cerebral palsy"
Shamelessly stolen from Doug Stanhope.Boomslang wrote:Brazil wrote:"kickfucking a girl with cerebral palsy"
He's never really hid it has he?Seneca of the Night wrote:
To be fair that was fucking hilarious, and if he weren't implicated in harassment now it wouldn't be indicative of anything in particularZakar wrote:He's never really hid it has he?Seneca of the Night wrote:
Depends on the person being masturbated at knows that it's going to stop there or not, possibly.Man In Black wrote:
Perhaps exposing yourself to women and masturbating shows that you are an sexual deviant, not a cruel sadist?
Apparently gawker had this story back in 2012.Zakar wrote:He's never really hid it has he?Seneca of the Night wrote:
Weiner? His laptop may be the DC equivalent of Wikileaks. Allegedly some of the videos on it will bring this to DC in big way. Feel sorry for him? These guys know exactly what they are doing and enjoy all the "benefits" of their position and connections. Its only when they get caught does it become a problem. How can you feel sorry for that lot?Seneca of the Night wrote:Wiener not Weinstein.kiwinoz wrote:Feeling sorry for Weinstein? fudge him and his kind. He was such a victim he hired Mossad agents to help.
Isn't Weiner already going to jail?kiwinoz wrote:Weiner? His laptop may be the DC equivalent of Wikileaks. Allegedly some of the videos on it will bring this to DC in big way. Feel sorry for him? These guys know exactly what they are doing and enjoy all the "benefits" of their position and connections. Its only when they get caught does it become a problem. How can you feel sorry for that lot?Seneca of the Night wrote:Wiener not Weinstein.kiwinoz wrote:Feeling sorry for Weinstein? fudge him and his kind. He was such a victim he hired Mossad agents to help.
Bit of a grey area.Plato'sCave wrote:Surely this stuff is logical:
Consensual = good where bothparties > legal_age
Not consensual = always_bad
I’m a software person so logic is paramount.
Fixed.Santa wrote:Louis CK has lost a lot of money and is likely to lose more so after years of dismissing it as just stories has copped to the lot
https://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/cel ... s-are-true