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Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:22 am
by Wendigo7
Shauna Brown has come on and started playing like a train.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:40 am
by Wendigo7
Just watched all the game.

Start to finish a really good performance. Fitness levels really dropped off with Canada in that second half though, England's life was made very easy. Good caps for the debutants and Brown had a good easing into the side.

Packer is world class.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:52 pm
by Nieghorn
eldanielfire wrote: Canada has literally picked the worst time to come to ENgland, though I expect tuesdays match to be much closer now Canada have time together.
I don't know when this was agreed upon, but my initial thought upon hearing there'd be a November series was: "Why???" They'd just had a World Cup, which always sees some retirements, those with jobs are likely (as in the case of a friend) to not have any vacation time left this year or will have to begging to their employers again (not just WRWC, but they also had the tour to NZ in June). And for those without jobs and still in uni (though this team has a few, I think), they're coming up to the end of the semester. I'm told by a mate who coaches uni that several capped players he knows who are still students turned down this tour.

Our other gripe was that it all seemed - on the surface at least - that RC has not given them the attention they deserve. No word of a coach until this interim was named two or three weeks before the tour suggests they had no succession plan for Ratier in place. We thought one of the assistants, who are both successful uni coaches and highly respected, would just walk into the job. Not sure of that now.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:55 pm
by eldanielfire
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Some changes to England, clearly experimentation. Catherine O'Donnell, a bit of a monster lock in the U20s, is getting her first start so that's greta news. Likewise Jo Brown at 6 and Lagi Tuima on the bench. Be good to see what these girls will do.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:54 pm
by Nieghorn
Jo Brown and Shona Brown the same person? (I don't remember hearing 'Jo' during the match.)

Looking to put us to the sword, eh, keeping the midfield, halfbacks, half the pack and the try machine on the wing? ;)

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:06 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:Jo Brown and Shona Brown the same person? (I don't remember hearing 'Jo' during the match.)

Looking to put us to the sword, eh, keeping the midfield, halfbacks, half the pack and the try machine on the wing? ;)

No. I briefly though it was Shaunagh and forgot Jo was also in the squad :lol:. Shaunagh Brown (I love her fro) who I've been raving about, has had to return to Firefighter training as she couldn't get more time off with England (the talk is that she will deffo be in plenty more England shirts after her performance) and plays for Quins. Joanna Brown is a brunette who plays for Darlington Sharks.

Shaunah used to be a top junior thrower for England in athletics (Discus, Hammer and javelin) and coverted to Rugby a few years ago(started at the same club as Rachel Burford), while Joanna and has long been in the development system with England, but I've not seen huge amounts of Sharks, but she'll be no where as physical as Shaunagh. More of a Robshaw kind of 6.

But yeah, for all the changes, I see the half backs an centres are all together. It does seem a little experimentation is going on with a determination to ensure we win. Interestingly when Caity Mattison came on I thought she added more zip at 9 then Riley. I wonder if she and Harrison will get a start for the 3rd test?

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:34 pm
by Nieghorn
Maybe? Lock up the series and then go experimenting? I'm keen to see more of Tuima!

Fire fighting, eh? I noticed that Ceri Large is headed down that route (wondered what she was up to recently, thinking she should still have years left to be eligible at this level).

https://twitter.com/CeriLarge10/media?lang=en (banner photo)


... looking at that feed, what's happened to Laura Keates and Sasha Acheson? Two very mobile props that I thought would take over and be world-beaters.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:53 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:Maybe? Lock up the series and then go experimenting? I'm keen to see more of Tuima!

Fire fighting, eh? I noticed that Ceri Large is headed down that route (wondered what she was up to recently, thinking she should still have years left to be eligible at this level).

https://twitter.com/CeriLarge10/media?lang=en (banner photo)


... looking at that feed, what's happened to Laura Keates and Sasha Acheson? Two very mobile props that I thought would take over and be world-beaters.

Woah. I'd forgotton them both. I'm not sure I follow both of them social media so I'm not up to date. Sasha still plays at Bristol, (I think, I didn't see her when Bristol visited Quins), but I have no idea about Keates at all.

Now I think about it there seems to be a bit of a lost generation here of England. Large is playing good stuff at Gloucester, but England have now gone stright for Sarries teenage fly half Zoe Harrison as Daley-McLean's now heir apparent.

What will be interesting is Harrison has done a good job behind Sarries with a dominate pack, but the other best team is Quins and they meet on December 3rd. Both sidea re unefeated and it's been confirmed they will stream the match. I'm keen to see how Harrison does against a team and a pack who are Sarries equals. Should be great. I'll also call it Wasps are now a ver strong side and I don't think the league shows that yet.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:26 am
by eldanielfire
Oh and just for info purposes, the first England-Canada game attracted an attendance of 2425. Not bad.

http://www.whtimes.co.uk/sport/rugby/ha ... -1-5285789

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:39 pm
by Wendigo7
Ellie Kildaune scored a fantastic try on half time.

Much improved from Canada but England lead 20-0.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:38 pm
by nuffsaid
Wendigo7 wrote:Ellie Kildaune scored a fantastic try on half time.

Much improved from Canada but England lead 20-0.
She's got remarkable pace and composure hasn't she? There a a few good young players in that team - good to see.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:19 pm
by Nieghorn
What's the difference between cricket and rugby supporters, here?
A keen cricket fan, Cokayne was at Lord's to watch England's women defeat India to win the World Cup in July.

And the 21-year-old feels rugby can learn from cricket when it comes growing the women's game.

"To have the whole of Lord's sold-out, it was an amazing atmosphere," she added.

"People were there that didn't know the players, while half the time with our games it's friends and family, which is great, but we want more people coming for the love of the game.

"We play at Twickenham [after men's matches], and when we warm-up it is loud and the whole atmosphere is there. By the time kick-off comes, people are rushing out, which is quite disheartening."

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:38 am
by eldanielfire
I don't know the difference not knowing anythin about cricket. I do think England would do great when they do a double bill to play the women before the men rather then afterwards. While I think the RFU are keen to grow the women's game, sometiems the details are clearly not being thought about. The current series with Canada is basically only advertised in Rugby circles and fairly last minute. Tickets are often undecided as to how they will be sold, or even how they will be priced, until only a few weeks before. A big factor could be Lords is easy to get to for Londonersand Twickenham is not. Also it was the world cup final. I'm sure if England hosted a wRWC again it would generate record interest easily right now.

The current reboot of the women's top tier is good, it's even got a website dedicated to it now. But it needs an advertising budget and at least one game shown every week rather then once a month. It would be ideal if it was shown on TV even. Rugby interest is exploding but the exposure still needs to be there.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:40 am
by eldanielfire
nuffsaid wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:Ellie Kildaune scored a fantastic try on half time.

Much improved from Canada but England lead 20-0.
She's got remarkable pace and composure hasn't she? There a a few good young players in that team - good to see.
Indeed. England seem o ahve this superb generation of players coming into the game right now. I guess the extra interest generated by the 2010 Wold Cup drew lots more talent into the game. The RWC win in 2014 literally helped the RFU double playing numbers in 3 years. It's all happening for England right now.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:46 am
by Nieghorn
eldanielfire wrote:I don't know the difference not knowing anythin about cricket. I do think England would do great when they do a double bill to play the women before the men rather then afterwards. While I think the RFU are keen to grow the women's game, sometiems the details are clearly not being thought about. The current series with Canada is basically only advertised in Rugby circles and fairly last minute. Tickets are often undecided as to how they will be sold, or even how they will be priced, until only a few weeks before. A big factor could be Lords is easy to get to for Londonersand Twickenham is not. Also it was the world cup final. I'm sure if England hosted a wRWC again it would generate record interest easily right now.

The current reboot of the women's top tier is good, it's even got a website dedicated to it now. But it needs an advertising budget and at least one game shown every week rather then once a month. It would be ideal if it was shown on TV even. Rugby interest is exploding but the exposure still needs to be there.
I'd love to see RFU numbers on growth of club and school teams amongst girls. When I taught in England back in 2005, there was next to nothing. I was coaching U15 boys at Clifton - which had a very strong women's team - but there were few girls even in the boys teams that allowed girls. A friend asked if I knew of schools his girls might tour and I said that clubs were probably a better bet, but a quick Google and I got the impression that there were quite a few girls teams (public schools, mostly?) as well now.

:thumbup:

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:49 am
by Rugbygirl
Nieghorn wrote:Maybe? Lock up the series and then go experimenting? I'm keen to see more of Tuima!

Fire fighting, eh? I noticed that Ceri Large is headed down that route (wondered what she was up to recently, thinking she should still have years left to be eligible at this level).

https://twitter.com/CeriLarge10/media?lang=en (banner photo)


... looking at that feed, what's happened to Laura Keates and Sasha Acheson? Two very mobile props that I thought would take over and be world-beaters.
Laura Keates injured her Achilles in June, so she’s still on her way back from that. All I know about Sasha Acheson is that she had quite a nasty injury a couple of years back, and had since fallen out of favour, though I don’t know why.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:54 am
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:I don't know the difference not knowing anythin about cricket. I do think England would do great when they do a double bill to play the women before the men rather then afterwards. While I think the RFU are keen to grow the women's game, sometiems the details are clearly not being thought about. The current series with Canada is basically only advertised in Rugby circles and fairly last minute. Tickets are often undecided as to how they will be sold, or even how they will be priced, until only a few weeks before. A big factor could be Lords is easy to get to for Londonersand Twickenham is not. Also it was the world cup final. I'm sure if England hosted a wRWC again it would generate record interest easily right now.

The current reboot of the women's top tier is good, it's even got a website dedicated to it now. But it needs an advertising budget and at least one game shown every week rather then once a month. It would be ideal if it was shown on TV even. Rugby interest is exploding but the exposure still needs to be there.
I'd love to see RFU numbers on growth of club and school teams amongst girls. When I taught in England back in 2005, there was next to nothing. I was coaching U15 boys at Clifton - which had a very strong women's team - but there were few girls even in the boys teams that allowed girls. A friend asked if I knew of schools his girls might tour and I said that clubs were probably a better bet, but a quick Google and I got the impression that there were quite a few girls teams (public schools, mostly?) as well now.

:thumbup:
The RFU have nearly opened up access to girls at many schools in London. The issue is you have to travel to another school to take part, which can be difficult if that school isnt particularly close or easy to get to. That limits the girls at my school. I believe in my previous links the RFU plan 300 more girls/womens teasm in the next 4 years.

I believe the situation in Wales was worse. Playing numbers literally in the low hundreds a few years ago. Now 10,000 women and girls get to play.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:08 am
by eldanielfire
Anyways great game last night, really enjoyable and a great atmosphere from the 2k plus turnout. The loudest part of the crowd had to be the entire Richmond ladies team :lol:

Good match, once again this young, new generation of England ladies look the real deal. Tuima's offload was sublime, Kildaune looks the genuine successor to Waterman. Interesting the England scrum stopped going backwards when Botterman came on at tighthead. The defence was quick and organised though we'll have to see what these girls are like when under defensive pressure.. Canada played much better, if they had a kicking option and a bit better hands they would have been competitive as you'd expect. The number 6 was canadas best player and the 2nd half fullback and the right winger were huge dangers in space.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:12 am
by eldanielfire
nuffsaid wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:Ellie Kildaune scored a fantastic try on half time.

Much improved from Canada but England lead 20-0.
She's got remarkable pace and composure hasn't she? There a a few good young players in that team - good to see.
Yeah, really good young players. It makes sense a that women's rugby got a big level of exposure when England hoisted it in 2010 and women's teams have been growing rapidly in clubs, schools and uni for a while.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:45 am
by le chat
eldanielfire wrote:

Incentisized how? When I hear "Incentivised" points in a debate it is usually by somebody who can't explain how when you have 2 equally motivated and hardworking people how the one with fewer resources or none can be incentivised to do better then the one with all the resources.

Someone working full time can't train as much or as hard, nor get as much rest as a full time athlete or a rich athlete who doesn't need to work, especially when rest periods are as vital to recovery, growing muscle and being recovered for the next session. They can try, but they will not be able to keep up but it will only create a social divide, not open it up to greater talent. No incentive is going to change this unless there is a base higher with certain physiological, social and economic requirements are met that all athletes start from. Incentivise does nothing from the bottom.
Well they may pick jobs which allow them to train better for starters, when the incentive that the England team will lead to a lot more more if they make it. A gamble yes.
Lobby wrote:
Rugby is hardly unusual in not paying its women players comparable salaries to the men. Tennis is probably the only sport where men and women receive the same or comparable remuneration.

Football is much richer than rugby, and the women's game is now starting to attract more money and TV exposure, but the 'gender pay gap' in football is even greater than in rugby.

In England there are now 30 women football players who are paid a minimum of £25,000 per year on the central contracts, rising to around £30,000 with appearance bonuses.

Even a top bracket earner in women’s football such as Steph Houghton, is likely only getting around £70,000 per year including income from sponsors. In contrast, the best players in the US can earn about $3M, although most will come from sponsorship deals and advertising.

It is good news that the RFU will be paying the England 15s players, as well as the 7s players, but we are long way from being able pay them even close to what the men get paid. In most other countries, the women get paid nothing, or just expenses.
What do you mean they are a long way to be paid what men get paid? if you're talking about how much money they make for the RFU then that would be none at all so therefore for equality they need to be put on the same as men.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:16 am
by eldanielfire
le chat wrote: So you've gone from incentivised will improve things to "it's a gamble". there is also the "they may pick jobs that allow them to train better". Half the teams these women come from are up north or the midlands, hardly breaming with jobs to select from. And then there are qualifications, one of the England locks is a farmer. That's her qualification and skill set. What do you expect her to switch to? One of the best flankers could only get last week off to train with the team because she is firefighter training. Do you really expect these women to alter their entire lives and careers to play for no renumeration? They already make makes losses financially by taking time off work for tournaments and stunt their career paths by taking lost of time off for training camps, tests and tournaments.

It will get better, but a whole league doesn't go from nothing to sustainability paying out millions. The RFU is broadly pushing it so it is. But it takes time. No matter the incentive things still take time.
What do you mean they are a long way to be paid what men get paid? if you're talking about how much money they make for the RFU then that would be none at all so therefore for equality they need to be put on the same as men.
There is also the issue of sustainability. Taking the league for example each side has a 30 squad first team and a 30 squad reserve team. There are 10 teams. On a minimun living wage that is 20k per player and £12 million a year. The RFU for example doesn't have the money to suddenly pay 600 players an annual wages for no return as it's income is already all allocated out. What's more it wouldn't entirely stop the women from working or studying £20k is hardly going to maintain a decent lifestyle or prevent boredom, people need lives. The RFU may rake it in but it also supports the entire infrastructure of Rugby in England.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:38 am
by le chat
eldanielfire wrote:
le chat wrote: So you've gone from incentivised will improve things to "it's a gamble". there is also the "they may pick jobs that allow them to train better". Half the teams these women come from are up north or the midlands, hardly breaming with jobs to select from. And then there are qualifications, one of the England locks is a farmer. That's her qualification and skill set. What do you expect her to switch to? One of the best flankers could only get last week off to train with the team because she is firefighter training. Do you really expect these women to alter their entire lives and careers to play for no renumeration? They already make makes losses financially by taking time off work for tournaments and stunt their career paths by taking lost of time off for training camps, tests and tournaments.

It will get better, but a whole league doesn't go from nothing to sustainability paying out millions. The RFU is broadly pushing it so it is. But it takes time. No matter the incentive things still take time.
What do you mean they are a long way to be paid what men get paid? if you're talking about how much money they make for the RFU then that would be none at all so therefore for equality they need to be put on the same as men.
There is also the issue of sustainability. Taking the league for example each side has a 30 squad first team and a 30 squad reserve team. There are 10 teams. On a minimun living wage that is 20k per player and £12 million a year. The RFU for example doesn't have the money to suddenly pay 600 players an annual wages for no return as it's income is already all allocated out. What's more it wouldn't entirely stop the women from working or studying £20k is hardly going to maintain a decent lifestyle or prevent boredom, people need lives. The RFU may rake it in but it also supports the entire infrastructure of Rugby in England.
so why pay them at all if they don't earn the money back?

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:41 am
by eldanielfire
SERIOUSLY! DOn't f##k with (myself and Neigehorn's favourite player to discuss) Ceri Large's s##t:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -star.html

A skinny burglar targeted the wrong property when he tried to break into the home of a top female England rugby player.
The cowardly intruder scarpered after attempting to break-in to the home of fly-half Ceri Large, 27, and was sent dashing down the street with his trousers round his ankles.

Miss Large said: 'He was a scrawny, vile little coward and I was probably bigger than him, so it was lucky we didn't catch him.
'If I had, I probably would have battered him.'

Miss Large, who represented England in the 2014 women's rugby world cup, had a group of friends from the local women's rugby club staying overnight on Friday.
The unsuspecting intruder crept in and Miss Large heard him and gave chase.
He was then caught on camera running down the garden and jumping over a fence.
He hurried down the street in his boxer shorts as his jeans fell down when he ran away from Miss Large's house.

She said: 'You should have seen him jump over that gate. I bet he doesn't tell people he was chased away by a girl.
'His jeans were so baggy that they fell down around his ankles, so he ended up running down the road in his boxers.'
Miss Large, who now plays club rugby for Gloucester-Hartpury, had stayed up into the early hours of Saturday morning watching Children In Need with some friends from Drybrook Rugby Club.
She had been expecting her brother and another friend to arrive back late at her parents' house in Cinderford, Gloucestershire, and so had left the back door open.
But around 2.20am she was woken by noises from downstairs and footsteps on the stairs, and became suspicious.
Hiding in the dark, Miss Large watched a dark shadow creep in and out of the bedrooms where her friends were sleeping, before flicking the light on.

She said: 'I was in pitch black so I just switched on my phone light in his face and screamed, 'There's a man in the house' at the top of my voice.
'My friends said afterwards they had never heard anything like it.'
Miss Large added: 'He just scarpered. He must have been scared because he jumped from the top of the stairs to the bottom and broke the bottom step.
'It's a shame he didn't go right through and get stuck.
'I chased him out and my friend was just behind, but we decided not to follow when he jumped over a six foot gate and ran off.'
She added that the culprit had taken off his shoes in order to sneak around more quietly and so he didn't leave footprints.

Thankfully nothing was stolen and Miss Large's parents were able to access CCTV footage when they returned the following day from a holiday in the Isle of Wight.
Now she wants to warn others in the area about leaving their back doors open and says next time people might not be so fortunate.
'I know I shouldn't have left the door open and if I had caught him I would probably have battered him,' she said.
'But it's not the point. It's still frightening and upsetting to know that some vile person has taken their shoes off and crept into your house in the middle of the night.
'If there's a lesson to take from this it is that you should always lock your doors because these people are trying the handles looking for an easy way in.'
She described the man in her house as having dark, scruffy hair, a goatie beard and a moustache. His accomplice, who was waiting outside, was wearing a grey hoodie and a flat cap.
A spokesman for Gloucestershire Police said: 'Shortly before 2.30am, an unknown male offender entered a property through an insecure door.
'The man was disturbed by a female and she chased him out of the property and the offender ran towards St White's Road, where he was joined by a second male.
'Nothing is believed to have been stolen in the incident.'

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:55 am
by eldanielfire
le chat wrote: so why pay them at all if they don't earn the money back?
That's only a valid argument if the only value in paying is what you get back directly or that the RFU only pays out to get a return. If it did that then it wouldn't invest millions in the lower leagues and millions more in the grassroots game.

Also that's not how an investment works. I was at the England game last night. There were over 2000 people there. A few years ago it would have been 300, mostly rugby players form local women's teams. At the world cup over 2 million people watched the final on ITV alone. Bristol Ladies also got gate of a few thousand this season for a domestic game. These figures were not even imagined a few years ago. Over time the women's game will grow and generate income and the finances that will be able to be paid out will grow.

Regardless of if they will return what was invested, many at the RFU and are fans of the sport feel it's worthwhile investing on growing the women's game in a sensible and logical fashion so it reaches a professional status as a worthwhile and desirable goal by itself.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:22 pm
by Nieghorn
Great job, Ceri, but leave it to the Daily Mail to make her do a cheesy photoshoot for it. :lol:

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:31 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:Great job, Ceri, but leave it to the Daily Mail to make her do a cheesy photoshoot for it. :lol:
That was my thought! :lol: Could be worse, it could have been the sun.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:50 pm
by eldanielfire
The Try highlights of last nights game:

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/ne ... -up-series

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:12 pm
by Nieghorn
Damn geo blocking!!! :x (I'm sure it'll appear on youtube soon enough, though. Would love to see the whole match.)

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:45 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:Damn geo blocking!!! :x (I'm sure it'll appear on youtube soon enough, though. Would love to see the whole match.)

England Rugby O2 have done their highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcTgaboilk8

I'm also ken to re-watch the whole match as well. I hope it's uploaded to YouTube or somewhere. The highlights miss an absolutely great offload to a stunning behind the back pass from Lagi Tuima in the 2nd half that I wish I could re-watch. There were a few good hits as well. It was a great match for all the kids I took. I think 99% of them it was their first ever live experience of one and they loved it.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:07 am
by eldanielfire
A bit on Shaunagh Brown's firefighter career in an interview about her first England cap:

http://www.quins.co.uk/news/firefighter ... nagh-brown

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:51 am
by eldanielfire
A bit about what Sweden's, The Neatherland and belguim's sides are doing:

http://www.scrumqueens.com/news/belgium ... e%E2%80%9C

http://www.scrumqueens.com/news/sweden- ... -police-xv

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:13 am
by eldanielfire
http://www.scrumqueens.com/news/world-r ... -year-plan

World Rugby is planning the following to improve the women's game:

-the game's governing body is set to increase the number of people who may sit on Council – its highest decision-making body – from 32 to 49, with the 17 new representatives to be women.
- Expanding the number of teams (15s and sevens) competing in pinnacle competitions and developing second tier competitions as feeders to pinnacle events.
- A review of laws and regulations including reviewing clothing to ensure that it meets the needs of the women’s playing community.
- Making women's global events profitable
- Ensuring unions have sufficient coaches, match officials and medical staff t meet increased demand linked to anticipated growth of players.
- Leadership development initiatives, such as leadership development scholarships and a sport development grant

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:39 pm
by eldanielfire
England team for Saturday:

Image

Surely Burnfield and Cleall's numbers are wrong?

I'm surprised they haven't gone with Harrison at 10 to experiment? Same for Lark DaviesIt's good to see Tuima get a start as well.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:32 pm
by Nieghorn
Middleton taking notes from Eddie? :)

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:31 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:Middleton taking notes from Eddie? :)
Looks like it :lol:

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:49 pm
by eldanielfire
Interesting from both England and Canada. Canada has put their pacy center from the last game on the wing to counter Jess breech's pace. England throw Poppy Cleall into lock and Burnfield to flanker, I guess to add mass in the scrum to counter Canada's dominate scrum.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:52 pm
by eldanielfire
Tuima's passing and offloads are second to none in the women's game. Great break from her to set-up the Abby Dow try. Dow's pick-up was sublime.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:57 pm
by eldanielfire
Breech's acceleration and pace are ridiculous. 7 tries in one game and 15 minutes.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:00 pm
by Nieghorn
eldanielfire wrote:Breech's acceleration and pace are ridiculous. 7 tries in one game and 15 minutes.
Will be poached by 7s soon enough? :( (Keep her free for 6N, I say.)

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:01 pm
by eldanielfire
Well worked try by Canada. Their handling have greatly improved through this series.