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Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:56 am
by Santa
http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/07/would-you ... t-6910648/
Interesting results here. Facism gets a bad rap on this website but is it deserved?
According to a YouGov survey, some 81% of people would choose communism over fascism if they had to decide.
If the respondents are allowed to select ‘don’t know’ as an answer 42% would still pick communism and just 10% fascism, according to the poll.
Excluding ‘don’t know’ as a response, of those who voted Conservative 64% would choose communism and 36% fascism
Some 90% of Labour voters in 2017 would opt for communism and some 93% of Liberal Democrat supporters would do the same.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:57 am
by Akkerman
wtf is facism ?
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:59 am
by Santa
Akkerman wrote:wtf is facism ?
Thrice too.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:59 am
by penguin
Akkerman wrote:wtf is facism ?
A system of government run solely by pretty people.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:59 am
by fatcat
Akkerman wrote:wtf is facism ?
Conservative/right wing/right leaning
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:03 am
by Turbogoat
Would you rather be violently buggered to death by a Rhino or a Hippo?
This thread deserves to be linked to an "Obvious questions to which the answer is neither" thread.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:09 am
by backrow
Little difference between communist state or racist state really - meaningless one party elections, heavy policing, excessive military spending , restrictive personal freedom, and inefficient financial regulation
Fascists had better uniforms, commies better gymnasts - is about the biggest difference I can think of
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:15 am
by Santa
Turbogoat wrote:Would you rather be violently buggered to death by a Rhino or a Hippo?
This thread deserves to be linked to an "Obvious questions to which the answer is neither" thread.
You're a bit dense at times. The question that arises is why the preference for communism?
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:19 am
by Akkerman
both abhorrent imo
but communism gets a better rep because of its supposed good intentions, most westerners are still oblivious to the damage it caused
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:19 am
by Stu Wilsons gloves
Man In Black wrote:At least the fascists looked good.
Beat me to it, Hugo Boss suits v those monstrosities of kit the North Koreans wear.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:22 am
by Bullettyme
Both horrible ideologies that have proven to be incredibly destructive, racist and violent in practice.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:27 am
by Mick Mannock
V
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:29 am
by penguin
Alexei Sayle's evil twin vs hispanic George Clooney?
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:30 am
by Mick Mannock
penguin wrote:Alexei Sayle's evil twin vs hispanic George Clooney?
I think we can see that Fascists did not a monopoly on uniform-cool
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:31 am
by kiwinoz
Communism wins by death toll alone.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:37 am
by Plato'sCave
Cuthbert or North
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:41 am
by Santa
Interestingly both European ideologies too.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:52 am
by SASP
We have Che Guevara on stamps here.
Some people haven't a fecking clue.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:55 am
by bessantj
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:12 pm
by Bullettyme
SASP wrote:We have Che Guevara on stamps here.
Some people haven't a fecking clue.
I thought that was a bit overblown really.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:21 pm
by Frodder
A commie but with loads of money
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:29 pm
by La soule
Yes.
That was a fairly easy question.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:31 pm
by Santa
For those who would rather be a communist why would you? Is it simply reputational?
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:32 pm
by Dork Lard
Santa wrote:Interestingly both European ideologies too.
*Jewish-European. At least one of them for certain. As a single particular starting point, a development, and keeping it alive and well today.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:34 pm
by unseenwork
Dork Lard wrote:Santa wrote:Interestingly both European ideologies too.
European. At least one of them for certain. As a single particular starting point, a development, and keeping it alive and well today.
Fixed that for you. Christ.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:34 pm
by unseenwork
Santa wrote:For those who would rather be a communist why would you? Is it simply reputational?
I like Communism, seems a grand time.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:37 pm
by SASP
unseenwork wrote:Santa wrote:For those who would rather be a communist why would you? Is it simply reputational?
I like Communism, seems a grand time.
Give me your money.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:38 pm
by unseenwork
SASP wrote:unseenwork wrote:Santa wrote:For those who would rather be a communist why would you? Is it simply reputational?
I like Communism, seems a grand time.
Give me your money.
Ah now SASP, I'm only giving my money to representatives of the proletariate, the leaders of my local Soviet.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:38 pm
by rett
Santa wrote:Turbogoat wrote:Would you rather be violently buggered to death by a Rhino or a Hippo?
This thread deserves to be linked to an "Obvious questions to which the answer is neither" thread.
You're a bit dense at times. The question that arises is why the preference for communism?
UK media. Commies didn't bomb London.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:39 pm
by Dork Lard
Santa wrote:For those who would rather be a communist why would you? Is it simply reputational?
I believe both D'Souza and Prof Jordan Peterson spoke about that. It's fashionable: you get to force your viewpoint on others, access power, all the while being sanctimonious/in a higher moral position. A major invigoration of the ego. You're doing it "for the greater good" in an ideology where you "care" for society and the people etc.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:43 pm
by Bullettyme
Dork Lard wrote:Santa wrote:Interestingly both European ideologies too.
*Jewish-European. At least one of them for certain. As a single particular starting point, a development, and keeping it alive and well today.
Well I guess we know which one you prefer.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:45 pm
by bessantj
Bullettyme wrote:Dork Lard wrote:*Jewish-European. At least one of them for certain. As a single particular starting point, a development, and keeping it alive and well today.
Well I guess we know which one you prefer.
Dork Lard wrote:I believe both D'Souza and Prof Jordan Peterson spoke about that. It's fashionable: you get to force your viewpoint on others, access power, all the while being sanctimonious/in a higher moral position. A major invigoration of the ego. You're doing it "for the greater good" in an ideology where you "care" for society and the people etc.
Hmmmm, Dork Lord, do you have a certain question you've been dying to ask?
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:46 pm
by SASP
unseenwork wrote:SASP wrote:unseenwork wrote:Santa wrote:For those who would rather be a communist why would you? Is it simply reputational?
I like Communism, seems a grand time.
Give me your money.
Ah now SASP, I'm only giving my money to representatives of the proletariate, the leaders of my local Soviet.
You mean the leaders you won't get to vote for?
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:47 pm
by A5D5E5
If I was one of the people at the top, then fascism seems more appealing - no need to keep up a pretense that you are the same as the proletariat.
If on the other hand I was one of the huddled masses then it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to me.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:48 pm
by unseenwork
SASP wrote:unseenwork wrote:SASP wrote:unseenwork wrote:Santa wrote:For those who would rather be a communist why would you? Is it simply reputational?
I like Communism, seems a grand time.
Give me your money.
Ah now SASP, I'm only giving my money to representatives of the proletariate, the leaders of my local Soviet.
You mean the leaders you won't get to vote for?
Meh, depends on the system, we'll see how that pans out.
Flip that's your 10000th post SASP.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:52 pm
by SASP
unseenwork wrote:SASP wrote:unseenwork wrote:SASP wrote:unseenwork wrote:
I like Communism, seems a grand time.
Give me your money.
Ah now SASP, I'm only giving my money to representatives of the proletariate, the leaders of my local Soviet.
You mean the leaders you won't get to vote for?
Meh, depends on the system, we'll see how that pans out.
Flip that's your 10000th post SASP.
Thank fudge, I've been coming up with nonsense to talk about to hit the mark.
Now pass the biscuits.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:56 pm
by unseenwork
SASP wrote:
Thank fudge, I've been coming up with nonsense to talk about to hit the mark.
Now pass the biscuits.
A celebration is in order, time to break out the M&S Belgian Collection!
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:59 pm
by lorcanoworms
penguin wrote:Alexei Sayle's evil twin vs hispanic George Clooney?
Che was a Lyncher.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:59 pm
by TokenSarriesFan
fatcat wrote:Akkerman wrote:wtf is facism ?
Conservative/right wing/right leaning
That's retarded, Fascism has nothing to do with Conservatism.
It's radical Radical authoritarian nationalism.
None of which is a feature of Conservatism.
In answer to the original post, both are equally bad, and pretty much different sides of the same coin and should be opposed in equal measure.
Re: Facist or communist
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:02 pm
by penguin
lorcanoworms wrote:penguin wrote:Alexei Sayle's evil twin vs hispanic George Clooney?
Che was a Lyncher.
It was a purely superficial comment, it wasn't meant as a compliment to Che's politics.
