I know what the laws say. They are simply wrong just like any law is when taking absolutely.

What? That was a high tackle 10 years ago, let alone one. Not really sure what all the tears are for.

It's a rout.

Your bestie Thai guy is the reason I don’t come here much ... so ...enjoy

Absolutely. it was a cracking game till the PT, though the Chiefs have not helped themselves since then and the Crusaders have really turned the screws.

I blame fluorescent boots.

Yeah, I've switched off as well. What's the point in watching this farce?

Cheer up petal.

I think you mean rort.

Realistically didn’t expect to go to the defending champions home patch and win, but this is still disappointing

The Chiefs are going to be a big threat this year but that is a good start for our boys.

McKenzie isn't a 10's arse. Why should the Chiefs be the test lab for one of Hansen's wacky ideas?

Did you watch any rugby in the last 10 years? I defy you to find a single, similar decision before 2017?

Even if you can, I reckon I could find 10x that number where such an action was hailed as "a brilliant, last ditch tackle".

He's an idiot.

the first card was fair but not malicious. Player was falling into it which made it look worse. This one we're arguing over was similar in the dropping player but the tackler started over the shoulder.

Cheifs look to be losing their Mana early this season.damn those injuries don't look too good.
Re: the penalty try. We'll get used to it folks. Long term injuries is not worth the tough couch potato talk.

Yep. Not much first-five cover in the squad though

Final score 45-23.

A 22 point win in a NZ conference derby game is almost unheard of. I am very happy with the result - but that was not a great performance.

The law is an ass. Don't be an apologist for an ass.

If that was a yellow, then how in the hell did Alaalatoa's swinging arm to McKenzie's head not get a red?

Also, why did the tackle on McKenzie late in the first half not get yellow carded? It was clearly high - the ref even played advantage for it.

Fark, been trying to watch this on a really really choppy, intermittent internet access. Almost as frustrating as seeing the 2 interecept tries being given away in the last 5 minutes.

Congrats Saders, was a great finish to that game.

Plenty to be happy about from the Chiefs, given how unknown they were going to be this season, but the amount of errors and injuries isn't something that can be sustained.

No he didn’t

to stop the try " I was only as off side as I humanly needed to be"

It was a game for men then. Mothers cooked the mince on toast

It's a shame because of the pen try and yellow... circumstances pretty much demanded that under the Laws. Tackler made contact at the neck, fercryinoutloud. You can't start a tackle at the neck.

What happened after that decision spoilt things with the score blowing out, for sure.

Early doors for both sides and your mob not normally the fastest out of the blocks so any win a good one?

It blew out in the end but it was a hard fought win - the first and last 20 were good for the crusaders. Very impressed with the Mounga, Crotty and Goodhue midfield. McKenzie had some good runs but was a shit 10.

So why go the bullying route over all farmers being polluters ? fudge you you bloody asshole I don’t give you shit over your job but if m fair game for you and Thai guy ?

Happy bullying

Well you’re just being silly now.

Very flattering but a win is a win. Picking up a bonus point could be important later on in the NZ conference.

A harsh result for the Chiefs. Didn't deserve to win but didn't deserve to lose with that score line.

O'Keefe must be cross eyed doesn't know forward from back. Poor showing from him tonight.

The. Tackler. Did. Not. Make. Contact. At. The. Neck

You’ve moved down from saying it was the head at least. Soon you’ll be at the actual point of contact

Chiefs would be a million times better off with Marty at 10, Maori Jesus at 12, and D-Mac at 15.

D-Mac was the best fullback in the comp last year.

That's just bollocks. Get a grip, ffs.

the hips? He did well to get so low so quick.

Quite an enjoyable game until the penalty try. That tackle happens all the time without the same result. If it was any other player than glass Crotty they would have just got back up and carried on, actually I take that Glass Maori Jesus Ngatai would have stayed down too.

Tana was wrong, it is tiddly winks.

Slow mo showed it didn't start at the neck, initial contact with his arm was to the shoulder.

Yes arguably the defender should have been in better position and would have been more likely to tackle 'legally' but with that quick ball what can you do but make an attempt and hope it comes off?

Like other posters have said, the fact that letting Crotty score instead of going to make the tackle would be less risky is literally the safer option now which makes zero sense.

Māori Jesus is even shaped more like a block busting 12 now also, he’s piled on some pounds

Doesn’t matter, he’s now injured of course

talking shit smiley, tackle started at the upper arm or shoulder. Take your pirate patch off.

You were reading my posts from earlier in this thread