NZ vs England - ODI Series

guy smiley · Post by **guy smiley** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:59 am

Never in doubt

BBB · Post by **BBB** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:59 am

Suck on that WASP!

SecretAgentMan · Post by **SecretAgentMan** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:00 am

Santa, you beauty!

Marshall Banana · Post by **Marshall Banana** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:00 am

Nasser hasn't seen Santner bat much before, I gather?

Dude can hit a cricket ball - his bat speed is insane.

ScarfaceClaw · Post by **ScarfaceClaw** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:00 am

I didn’t at all give it up 15 overs ago. I always believed.

tubbyj · Post by **tubbyj** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:00 am

Hussein with the Hey Theo moment there bagging Santner and the NZ middle to lower order saying they would be the difference in the series as they did not look like they were capable of winning a game for NZ.

Nice one. Must be feeling a tit but to his credit he hasn't gone quiet.

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:01 am

BBB wrote: Gotta love being a Black Caps supporter.

Always knew we were going to do it

brat · Post by **brat** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:01 am

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:02 am

So happy for Taylor that he is rewarded for his marvelous ton with the victory.

Marshall Banana · Post by **Marshall Banana** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:02 am

tubbyj wrote:Hussein with the Hey Theo moment there bagging Santner and the NZ middle to lower order saying they would be the difference in the series as they did not look like they were capable of winning a game for NZ.

Nice one. Must be feeling a tit but to his credit he hasn't gone quiet.

He's a good commentator, but he put the mockers on England there something fierce!

SecretAgentMan · Post by **SecretAgentMan** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:04 am

BBB wrote:Suck on that WASP!

Yeah, fuck you WASP!

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:05 am

Sandstorm wrote:Woakes chokes

puku · Post by **puku** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:06 am

Worth staying up to 3 AM for.

Taylor and Latham laid the platform.

merlin the happy pig · Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:07 am

brat wrote:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially

He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times.

The Native · Post by **The Native** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:07 am

Hell of a game. More "lead" changes than the Landers vs Blues.

Tehui · Post by **Tehui** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:08 am

SecretAgentMan wrote: Can't see us getting close from here. All out for 260.

Good call.

Marshall Banana · Post by **Marshall Banana** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:09 am

merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times.

That's a very good comparison.

I think Santa was 2 off his first 9. Then he just went bonkers.

Mr Mike · Post by **Mr Mike** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:09 am

puku wrote:Worth staying up to 3 AM for.

Bless You ESPN

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:10 am

merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times.

Good call indeed.

brat · Post by **brat** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:12 am

merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times.

Yeh he kind of reminds me of Vettori being languid and ungamely but a bigger hitter

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:18 am

brat wrote:
merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times.
Yeh he kind of reminds me of Vettori being languid and ungamely but a bigger hitter

Ungamely is an interesting word. I assume it means non-sporting. Perhaps you were thinking of ungainly.

brat · Post by **brat** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:22 am

Kiwias wrote:
brat wrote:
merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times.
Yeh he kind of reminds me of Vettori being languid and ungamely but a bigger hitter
Ungamely is an interesting word. I assume it means non-sporting. Perhaps you were thinking of ungainly.

yep that was the word I was looking for..been a long week

SecretAgentMan · Post by **SecretAgentMan** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:44 am

Tehui wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote: Can't see us getting close from here. All out for 260.
Good call.

Always happy to be proved wrong.

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:51 am

Marshall Banana wrote:
merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times.

That's a very good comparison.

I think Santa was 2 off his first 9. Then he just went bonkers.

1 off 11? Then 44 off next 16.

Enzedder · Post by **Enzedder** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:31 pm

ScarfaceClaw wrote:I didn’t at all give it up 15 overs ago. I always believed.

Same here - I went to bed cos I was tired, eh Guv

deadduck · Post by **deadduck** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:50 pm

Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing.

guy smiley · Post by **guy smiley** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:12 pm

deadduck wrote:Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing

http://lastwordoncricket.com/2018/01/16 ... o-victory/

Colin de Grandhomme has played the innings of his life to help New Zealand secure a fourth straight victory over Pakistan as the home side got home with five wickets to spare.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure following the dismissal of his captain. After the game, Nicholls said his whole mindset was to build partnerships with the batsmen joining him.

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:52 pm

guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing

http://lastwordoncricket.com/2018/01/16 ... o-victory/
Colin de Grandhomme has played the innings of his life to help New Zealand secure a fourth straight victory over Pakistan as the home side got home with five wickets to spare.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure following the dismissal of his captain. After the game, Nicholls said his whole mindset was to build partnerships with the batsmen joining him.

Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?

SecretAgentMan · Post by **SecretAgentMan** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:31 am

Kiwias wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing

http://lastwordoncricket.com/2018/01/16 ... o-victory/
Colin de Grandhomme has played the innings of his life to help New Zealand secure a fourth straight victory over Pakistan as the home side got home with five wickets to spare.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure following the dismissal of his captain. After the game, Nicholls said his whole mindset was to build partnerships with the batsmen joining him.
Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?

He took 6/41 on test debut, and scored the fastest ever maiden test hundred. He also scored 74* in an ODI against Pakistan as recently as mid-January, after he returned from Zimbabwe following the death of his father. But apart from that, nothing much.

deadduck · Post by **deadduck** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:49 am

I guess you guys just glossed over the "under pressure" part of the question.

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:54 am

SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing

http://lastwordoncricket.com/2018/01/16 ... o-victory/
Colin de Grandhomme has played the innings of his life to help New Zealand secure a fourth straight victory over Pakistan as the home side got home with five wickets to spare.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure following the dismissal of his captain. After the game, Nicholls said his whole mindset was to build partnerships with the batsmen joining him.
Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?
He took 6/41 on test debut, and scored the fastest ever maiden test hundred. He also scored 74* in an ODI against Pakistan as recently as mid-January, after he returned from Zimbabwe following the death of his father. But apart from that, nothing much.

It was a "Life of Brian" question.

guy smiley · Post by **guy smiley** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:55 am

deadduck wrote:I guess you guys just glossed over the "under pressure" part of the question.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure

nope.

akann · Post by **akann** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:02 am

deadduck wrote:I guess you guys just glossed over the "under pressure" part of the question.

Agreed. Corey Anderson can also be accused of this imo. Seems to go missing under pressure and against the big teams. Having said that, I would stick with both Colin and Corey when he gets back, and hope that they eventually come right. I say this simply because they provide the power hitting that is needed in the middle/lower order. When chasing 300+ scores, big hitting is needed to chase those totals down.

Shrekles · Post by **Shrekles** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:03 am

Kiwias wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing

http://lastwordoncricket.com/2018/01/16 ... o-victory/
Colin de Grandhomme has played the innings of his life to help New Zealand secure a fourth straight victory over Pakistan as the home side got home with five wickets to spare.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure following the dismissal of his captain. After the game, Nicholls said his whole mindset was to build partnerships with the batsmen joining him.
Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?
He took 6/41 on test debut, and scored the fastest ever maiden test hundred. He also scored 74* in an ODI against Pakistan as recently as mid-January, after he returned from Zimbabwe following the death of his father. But apart from that, nothing much.
It was a "Life of Brian" question.

I tried three times to post an 'aqueduct' response but gave up after all the whiteouts.

SecretAgentMan · Post by **SecretAgentMan** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:32 am

Kiwias wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?
He took 6/41 on test debut, and scored the fastest ever maiden test hundred. He also scored 74* in an ODI against Pakistan as recently as mid-January, after he returned from Zimbabwe following the death of his father. But apart from that, nothing much.
It was a "Life of Brian" question.

Ah right...I was, er, distracted by a loud whooshing sound passing overhead.

True Blue · Post by **True Blue** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:57 am

Munro averages over 50 in first class cricket, so hopefully they try and build him into a test player. He's 30 though, not sure what the hold up is.

mrbrownstone · Post by **mrbrownstone** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:10 am

True Blue wrote:Munro averages over 50 in first class cricket, so hopefully they try and build him into a test player. He's 30 though, not sure what the hold up is.

Surely after his form this summer he should get a look in. He's already taken McCullum's role at the top of the order, so no reason he couldn't take his #5 spot in tests too.

Although having said that, Nicholls' test form has been steadily improving recently (though still not where it needs to be), and the selectors have shown they're reluctant to drop him. I imagine his 100 against SA last year + 67 in the recent WI series will have bought him some leeway for now.

Can't really see a lineup of:

5. Munro
6. de Grandhomme

either. And given de Grandhomme has 2 50s and a 100 in his last 4 innings, he's not getting dropped in a hurry.

deadduck · Post by **deadduck** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:37 am

guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:I guess you guys just glossed over the "under pressure" part of the question.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure
nope.

He came in with 110 to get with 15 overs to go and 5 wickets in hand. Chasing that successfully should be expected at least 50% of the time.
It doesn't do enough to make up for all the non contributions

How many of the tri series games did we lose because our late middle order folded like a house of cards?

guy smiley · Post by **guy smiley** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:46 am

deadduck wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:I guess you guys just glossed over the "under pressure" part of the question.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure
nope.
He came in with 110 to get with 15 overs to go and 5 wickets in hand. Chasing that successfully should be expected at least 50% of the time.
It doesn't do enough to make up for all the non contributions

How many of the tri series games did we lose because our late middle order folded like a house of cards?

Don't be hating him because he's got a funny name, man.

badmannotinjapan · Post by **badmannotinjapan** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:47 am

True Blue wrote:Munro averages over 50 in first class cricket, so hopefully they try and build him into a test player. He's 30 though, not sure what the hold up is.

Wasn't MicHuss in his early 30s when he cracked the Aussie side?